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DETROIT (AP) — The federal government is moving forward with a plan to let teenagers drive big rigs from state to state in a test program.

Currently, truckers who cross state lines must be at least 21 years old, but an apprenticeship program required by Congress to help ease supply chain backlogs would let 18-to-20-year-old truckers drive outside their home states.

The pilot program, detailed Thursday in a proposed regulation from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, would screen the teens, barring any with driving-while-impaired violations or traffic tickets for causing a crash.

But safety advocates say the program runs counter to data showing that younger drivers get in more crashes than older ones. They say it’s unwise to let teenage drivers be responsible for rigs that can weigh 80,000 pounds and cause catastrophic damage when they hit lighter vehicles.

The apprenticeship pilot program was required by Congress as part of the infrastructure bill signed into law Nov. 15. It requires the FMCSA, which is part of the Transportation Department, to start the program within 60 days.

The American Trucking Associations, a large industry trade group, supports the measure as a way to help with a shortage of drivers. The group estimates that the nation is running over 80,000 drivers short of the number it needs, as demand to move freight reaches historic highs.

Under the apprenticeship, younger drivers can cross state lines during 120-hour and 280-hour probationary periods, as long as an experienced driver is in the passenger seat. Trucks used in the program have to have an electronic braking crash mitigation system, a forward facing video camera, and their speeds must be limited to 65 mph.

After probation, they can drive on their own, but companies have to monitor their performance until they are 21. No more than 3,000 apprentices can take part in the training at any given time.

The FMCSA must reach out to carriers with excellent safety records to take part in the program, according to the Transportation Department.

The program will run for up to three years, and the motor carrier agency has to turn in a report to Congress analyzing the safety record of the teen drivers and making a recommendation on whether the younger drivers are as safe as those 21 or older. Congress could expand the program with new laws.

The test is part of a broader set of measures from the Biden administration to deal with the trucker shortage and improve working conditions for truck drivers.

In a statement, Nick Geale, vice president of workforce safety for the trucking associations, noted 49 states and Washington, D.C., already allow drivers under 21 to drive semis, but they can’t pick up a load just across a state line.

“This program creates a rigorous safety training program, requiring an additional 400 hours of advanced safety training, in which participants are evaluated against specific performance benchmarks,” Geale said. The program will ensure that the industry has enough drivers to meet growing freight demands, he said.

But Peter Kurdock, general counsel for Advocates for Highway & Auto Safety, said federal data shows that younger drivers have far higher crash rates than older ones. “This is no surprise to any American who drives a vehicle,” he said.

Putting them behind the wheel of trucks that can weigh up to 40 tons when loaded increases the possibility of mass casualty crashes, he said.

Kurdock said the trucking industry has wanted younger drivers for years and used supply chain issues to get it into the infrastructure bill. He fears the industry will use skewed data from the program to push for teenage truckers nationwide.
 
Kurdock said the trucking industry has wanted younger drivers for years and used supply chain issues to get it into the infrastructure bill. He fears the industry will use skewed data from the program to push for teenage truckers nationwide.
Teenage truckers nationwide wouldn't be a bad thing, though. There's no magic moment of realization when you turn 21 that makes you a perfect driver, and trucking firms are already incentivized to make sure their drivers know their shit by the sheer cost of dealing with a crash, from truck repair/replacement to legal fees. To be honest, I'm surprised a solution to deal with the supply chain crisis this smart even came out of the executive bureaucracy in the first place.
 
The American Trucking Associations, a large industry trade group, supports the measure as a way to help with a shortage of drivers.
If the ATA is involved it's probably dogshit.
Under the apprenticeship, younger drivers can cross state lines during 120-hour and 280-hour probationary periods, as long as an experienced driver is in the passenger seat.
So the same as with a learner's CDL but with a poorly defined interstate timer.
Trucks used in the program have to have an electronic braking crash mitigation system, a forward facing video camera, and their speeds must be limited to 65 mph.
So the same as a normal rig but with the speed governor that the shitty fleets use on their tard-haulers.
After probation, they can drive on their own, but companies have to monitor their performance until they are 21. No more than 3,000 apprentices can take part in the training at any given time.
And the shitty carrier is totally in charge of monitoring all of this. What could go wrong?

The problem here isn't teenagers driving trucks. I did as a kid, ag exemption. The problem is that it opens up the ATA shitbag carriers to lower the quality and pay of their already shitty moron idiot drivers that they can't retain. Once again they are trying to get written into the regs a special exemption that gives them a market advantage.

If they want more drivers they should treat them better and focus on their horrible retention rates. It's worse than fry cooks at a McDonalds franchise.
 
I think I already said this in another topic, but I'll repeat it here. I have a family member who works in semi-truck financing (loans and leasing, etc) who has no love for the DNC, but still thinks this is a very good idea. Here's why.

The average age of a NEW trucker is in their 30s. It's usually a second career. Why? Well... the kind of people who drive trucks generally aren't the kind of people who go to college. When they turn 18, they start working. But if you have to be 21 to drive a truck, they can't wait. So by the time they turn 21, they're already in other industries, and rarely have a reason to switch to trucking.

I'm not an expert on the topic, but I trust this person and the argument seem reasonable. Safety concerns and such are fair enough, but it may actually be a good idea for dealing with the trucker shortage.
 
Had to get a CDL about a decade ago for an ag-job I kinda fell into, but I let it lapse after I quit that job. Even got paid to go to a trucking school for 2 weeks, which was throwing 5 guys into a sleeper cab and driving all over the state with an empty trailer while our instructor told stories and occasionally told us what to do or yelled at us, though I wouldn't dare call him an actual teacher or instructor, despite his title and job description. It was a "dad throws you into the deep end" kind of situation in reality, probably because he knew we were all just there for an ag-job and weren't going to be real truckers.

Anyways, the ag guys got our own group. Every other group was mostly immigrants and blacks, including the most hilarious black transvestite I've ever had the privilege of witnessing in person. Our instructor, an awesome boomer who just didnt care anymore because he was close to retirement, would regale is with horror stories about how bad and stupid the darkies and pajeets were while saying how glad he got us "farm boys."

I can't imagine its any better nowadays, so throwing a shitload of entitled gen z apathy and narcissism into the mix ought to be just a swell idea with only positive repercussions.
 
I think I already said this in another topic, but I'll repeat it here. I have a family member who works in semi-truck financing (loans and leasing, etc) who has no love for the DNC, but still thinks this is a very good idea. Here's why.

The average age of a NEW trucker is in their 30s. It's usually a second career. Why? Well... the kind of people who drive trucks generally aren't the kind of people who go to college. When they turn 18, they start working. But if you have to be 21 to drive a truck, they can't wait. So by the time they turn 21, they're already in other industries, and rarely have a reason to switch to trucking.

I'm not an expert on the topic, but I trust this person and the argument seem reasonable. Safety concerns and such are fair enough, but it may actually be a good idea for dealing with the trucker shortage.
Eh, not really.

Getting some young guy to jump in an OTR truck and essentially live there throughout his 20's is a tough sell. Especially for what the big fleets pay if they scam you into their "free training" indentured servant contract that burns everyone out and they quit once the contract is up. Like 90% of the problems in the industry is the big carriers running that scam that is built to destroy retention.

Anyways, young guys can and do get into the business farting around locally though. But the pay is crap, You are like a laborer with a small pay bump. When they get older lots of guys flip and go OTR because they are married or need the money for the mortgage or kids or whatever.

I guess what I'm saying is that to make money OTR you gotta have experience. You can hop in a truck and drive it young but you aren't going to make much money doing it and you aren't going to have a life. You don't have the leverage and familiarity and shrewdness to make it big. You are going to run that truck to line someone else's wallet. The current setup where the youngin's stay near the homestead and gain experience pulling locally or regionally and learning is the better system.

The "shortage" here is simply the industry being dysfunctional. They could get and keep drivers if they sorted out pay and billing. Mainly sales related over-selling beyond fleet capacity. Sales people don't give a shit if they can haul it. They just want their commission and will underbid to get the job. This leaves no money left to attract a driver to do the job. If there is plentiful better paying work available, which there currently is, that shipment will sit.

This is, more or less, why the ports are backed up. Drayage companies and freight brokerages undersold the jobs while the state of California made the market tough to enter with their crazy overhead. It isn't worth hauling it.

What this narrative is is the ATA (corporate industry group) pissing and moaning that they can't keep on the drivers that they already have and "please daddy government let us break the rules some more so we can find more naive people to mistreat for our turn-and-burn system because we don't want to raise our rates to that of the competing properly run carriers and independents."
 
If it's young people, I assume they'd start them with smaller trucks for less liability.
 
Great, I can't wait for semis to go 15 under in the left lane and never use turn signals and be afraid to pull into the intersection at a yellow arrow.
 
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