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Judge dismisses lawsuit over election observers in St. Charles County
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (archive.ph)
By Ethan Colbert
2024-11-01 15:44:00GMT
A line of early voters wraps around the St. Charles County election offices as Elections Director Kurt Bahr works in his office on Thursday, Oct. 31, 2024. Robert Cohen, Post-Dispatch
ST. CHARLES COUNTY — A judge has dismissed a petition from a Republican local party official seeking to force election officials here to allow observers to watch early voting.
Circuit Court Judge Dwayne Johnson said at a hearing Friday morning attended by many St. Charles political figures that he understood what the man who filed the petition was trying to do, but that the documents did not meet the state's legal standards for a restraining order.
"There are a whole bunch of law books, and my job is to hold all the people who are in this courtroom, including attorneys and people who aren't attorneys, to the same standards. These books give us the standards," Johnson said of the suit after holding up a printed copy of state statutes.
Republican officials and county leaders criticized Johnson for not considering the substance of the case Friday.
"We probably should have hired an attorney," said Bob Eno, chairman of the county Republican party. The judge, he said, "didn't cancel it on the merits, but on a procedural issue."
Travis Heins, a St. Charles County Republican Central Committeeman from St. Peters and a certified poll watcher for election day, filed the petition and requested an emergency injunction on Wednesday evening. He argued that official "watchers" and "challengers" were wrongly being kept out of voting areas during early voting in the county— and that voting shouldn't continue until they were allowed in.
Heins reiterated after the hearing Friday that he did not suspect any wrongdoing had happened at the polls.
Kurt Bahr, elections director in St. Charles County, had refused to allow the observers into polling places during early voting, saying they’re only allowed in when ballots are being prepared for counting, or being counted, which happens on election day, Nov. 5.
“This is an old provision of statute that hasn’t been updated as other elements of election law have bene updated,” Bahr said earlier this week. “We disagree with his interpretation of law, which is why we are looking forward to the courts providing some clarity on this issue.”
Twenty-six Republicans and five Democrats have been approved to observe elections in St. Charles County on Nov. 5.
Heins said he sees his role as an election watcher to "watch as they count votes," but as an election challenger "to monitor the experience of the voter."
"(As a challenger) to make sure that voters are being taken care of, that the other laws outside of voting are being followed, and that's all that we're asking for," Heins said. He previously said he wanted to "spot check things" as voters headed to the polls.
Voters at early voting sites in St. Charles County this week had mixed opinions about the need for poll watchers and challengers in Missouri.
"I've never not trusted the process. I honestly don't believe that there is anyone out here trying to throw this election," said Shonda Welcher, of St. Charles city.
Ernest Leath, of O'Fallon, agreed, saying that "there's enough people administering the election that it would be pretty hard for there to be anyone in there cheating."
Some, including Katie Carter, of St. Peters, said she would welcome the additional oversight.
"I have nothing to hide, and if you have nothing to hide, then why would you be opposed to this?" she said.
Donald Looney, chair of the St. Charles County Democratic Central Committee, was in the courtroom Friday. He said he was pleased by the judge's decision and to see that early voting would continue in St. Charles County.
"This whole thing was a big nothing-burger," Looney said. "I am not a lawyer — I am just an autoworker — and even I could tell that there was not a lot of meat to this issue."
Heins said he wasn't sure if he would refile his petition or take further action.
Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft on Friday morning applauded Johnson's decisions in the case, particularly his removal of the injunction on Thursday to ensure early voting continued.
Ashcroft told the Post-Dispatch he would appeal any ruling in the case in order to establish clarity in the law statewide.
"Our office will definitely be revisiting this and reading his opinion," he said. "I think we will wait to make any moves until after the election so that it doesn’t interfere with voting."
Found a good website that tries to aggregate early voting statistics, where they can.
They did the same thing in 2020: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html
Overall stats for 2020:
Total Early Votes: 101,453,111 • In-Person Votes: 35,811,062 • Mail Ballots Returned: 65,642,049 • Mail Ballots Outstanding: 26,576,729
For 2024:
Total Early Votes: 70,053,286 • In-Person Early Votes: 37,458,617 • Mail Ballots Returned: 32,594,669 • Mail Ballots Requested: 67,172,327
I'm confused why the mail in ballots are half of what they were in 2020. I imagine some of that is just because some haven't been reported yet but ~4 days out from the election it seems odd that there's that big of a difference.
2020 stats by party:
2024:
Democrats are down 50% and Republicans are down 30%. My guess is that large Democrat states are maybe lagging in reporting. CA is currently at 6M this year but was at 12M in 2020, so that would make up for a lot of the gap.
The other thing to note is the Ballots Requested. Democrats are down 20% while Republicans are down 10%.
I'm not quite sure what to make of this but figured I'd post the findings.
Edit: One other thought, if it is indeed due to COVID, it's interesting that Republicans actually have less of a drop than Democrats.
They did the same thing in 2020: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html
Overall stats for 2020:
Total Early Votes: 101,453,111 • In-Person Votes: 35,811,062 • Mail Ballots Returned: 65,642,049 • Mail Ballots Outstanding: 26,576,729
For 2024:
Total Early Votes: 70,053,286 • In-Person Early Votes: 37,458,617 • Mail Ballots Returned: 32,594,669 • Mail Ballots Requested: 67,172,327
I'm confused why the mail in ballots are half of what they were in 2020. I imagine some of that is just because some haven't been reported yet but ~4 days out from the election it seems odd that there's that big of a difference.
2020 stats by party:
2024:
Democrats are down 50% and Republicans are down 30%. My guess is that large Democrat states are maybe lagging in reporting. CA is currently at 6M this year but was at 12M in 2020, so that would make up for a lot of the gap.
The other thing to note is the Ballots Requested. Democrats are down 20% while Republicans are down 10%.
I'm not quite sure what to make of this but figured I'd post the findings.
Ah right. Not sure how I didn't connect those dots, I guess it's because I never really took COVID seriously.
Edit: One other thought, if it is indeed due to COVID, it's interesting that Republicans actually have less of a drop than Democrats.
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Ralston has been having a month long cope session about the NV numbers and his "most accurate NV pollster" schtick is so funny and I hope Trump wins NV bigtime and makes him commit sudoku.
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On rogan Vance talked about those intelligence people who said the laptop "looked" like a russian hoax and how if they win those people will be lossing their security clearance.
I hope trump sics the DOJ on itself and applies that "election interference" against his enemies. In an ideal world use the same lawfare against the left and have republicans push for legislation to take that shit off the table.
Same with big tech, smash google, and have SM beg for protects against the goverment "asking" for things.
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It really doesn't help that until recently the Cheneys were hated by liberals for being warmongers. You can try to ignore history all you want, but the name means bloodthirsty republican to many people.
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Richard Baris has talked about this. Basically when one side is juiced up and coming out to vote, their leaners will also be juiced up and will turnout to vote. The opposite is also true, if one party is dragging ass and not coming out to vote, their leaners will react the same way. So basically if Republicans are coming out in big numbers, Indies will lean more Republican.
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Harris is shocked.
That there are braindead retards that would cast a ballot for her.
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TOO BIG TO RIG
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There is no Chinese virus this time around.
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Your local Republican politician, everyone.
Room temperature IQ.
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Lotta whiplash ITT today. Loving the whitepills today. The closer we get the less the media's spin is meeting reality. We got this.
Get the fuck out and vote. I don't care where you live. Secure your future.
Get the fuck out and vote. I don't care where you live. Secure your future.
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Can't blame her. I'd take millions of dollars to have fake enthusiasm and clearly read the script off my phone for 5-10 minutes.edit: what a dumb fucking bitch:
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It is really bizarre how Kamala is going with a celebrity blitzkrieg though. The target demo has a 5 second attention span and won't remember this, much less that Cardi B exists, by next Tuesday. I'm excited for all the hot goss that's gonna come out of the shitshow known as Kamala's failed billion dollar campaign. They've thrown all the spaghetti at the wall and none of it sticks
Hell, they only contacted Joe Rogan AFTER he announced Trump was going to be on and refused to surrender any control. How does that thought not occur across any of them until after it makes you look reactive and weak? It's not like Joe Rogan's audience is Kamala's weakest demographic or anything.
She's treating them like a kindergarten teacher, lol.
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Even if she's based and bodied David Hogg about guns, a thick Chinese accent is only marginally less funny to hear than a thick Indian accent.
In a sane world, the calmer, more well-spoken, good ol' Appalachian boy would be the presidential candidate, while the orange living meme generator would be the attack dog VP. You know, suck people in with the memorable shitposts and then keep them in place with good speeches and policies
Alas, we live in clown world.
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basically the only solace the Deep State could take in their imminent colossal assfucking was "well, at least Ron Paul isn't working with them!"
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I guess that's the kind of arrangement Clown World needs.
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That face will haunt my nightmares.
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