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Just want to give you guys a good side by side of the 2 space stations, the Chinese one is just head and shoulders better than ours
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lqXHd-KaRhk
seriously the comparison is insane, and when you think about the fact it took like 6 nations to make ours but China did theirs ALL on their own
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nmBbcNTUkOg
btw our space station only has less than 4 years left in its lifecycle before its de orbited with no plan to replace it, by 2030 China will be the only nation to operate any space station
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The point of the ISS is the International part (remember, the USSR and US had their own space stations before the ISS). Like the LHR and ITER (which both also took forever), it is first and foremost a peace project for international diplomacy and the scientific advancements are happy biproducts. The side-projects justify international treaties and nuclear non-proliferation agreements by providing something that we can point at for why they should trust each other. It lets the international community say "look, the US and Russia worked together to do something, so we should continue to reduce nukes". I speculate that SpaceX, Blue Origin, and the Space Force all have their own plans for space stations.

>the Chinese one is just head and shoulders better than ours
Skylab did it better. We could put something about the size of the ISS into orbit back in the 70's with a single module made from a repurposed Saturn V stage. It wouldn't be difficult to do it today using Starship.


 
Sorry dude but anyone who thinks Israel outweighs China as a threat is fucking retarded
one is a venomous snake the other is a a lumbering hippo. We need different tools to handle either threat.
The torpedo boats came later when the flag was down.
there was a massive star of david the crew made in a desperate attempt to avoid ongoing attacks, the torpedo struck right next to where the star was mounted
 
Still haven't answered my question, brownie. Just saying "I betcha a kike" isn't answering my quesiton its avoiding.


Actually, that's different, the temple is core to the Jewish faith, Jews can't do most of what God commanded them to do (via the torah) unless the temple is there. This is the same as saying "who cares about communion, you have Jesus". But tell me how a spy ship from the 1970s is so central to US foriegn policy 60+ years later

Do it, Muhmanad. I am looking forward.
Stud is an alcoholic, retarded douchebag that never posted anything informative (he has ~7100 posts btw). He is sadistic and smug but avoids any serious scrutiny by acting like a clown with down syndrome (making people think "Look at this dumb retard"). His entire presence on the Kiwifarms is to be engagement bait and filler, so that people can fill threads with nonsense for multiple pages.
 
one is a venomous snake the other is a a lumbering hippo. We need different tools to handle either threat.
No, one is a very large venomous hippo

You’re phrasing it like China doesn’t do propaganda or some shit.

Israel tries to get America to involve itself in it’s fights like an uber big brother, but China wants us fucking dead
 
I think I did a while ago


The torpedo boats came later when the flag was down.

The reason it happened is essentially because Israeli pilots were strained from constant sorties and the patrol map that noted where the Liberty was got wiped without the information carrying over.

LBJ didn't do anything wrong imo, he used the incident to press for a ceasefire. Initially it was thought that it was a Soviet attack and that's why the American planes that were sent out to protect the Liberty were recalled.
Also, the USS Liberty has a silhouette that resembles an Egyptian ship; I think it was a freighter, possibly a troop transport.

Honestly, the Israelis paying reparations and both sides saying they fucked up mean the problem is over and dealt with. No one wants to blow up a strategic partnership over some retarded sailors and a spy ship that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
 
Israel tries to get America to involve itself in it’s fights like an uber big brother, but China wants us fucking dead
Honestly, this is it in a nutshell. You can (and they often do) tell the Israelis to fuck off or do it themselves. The only time the USA doesn't tell Israel to stop is when US interests and Israeli interests overlap, and often they do, more so than US and European interests lately and especially US and GCC interests.
 
Also, the USS Liberty has a silhouette that resembles an Egyptian ship; I think it was a freighter, possibly a troop transport.

Honestly, the Israelis paying reparations and both sides saying they fucked up mean the problem is over and dealt with. No one wants to blow up a strategic partnership over some retarded sailors and a spy ship that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
See, the thing is we don’t need to completely blow Israel off and be super asshurt about them, but we DO need to be pragmatic about return on investment and bear in mind that Israelis are fucking ingrates.

So sometimes when the Ted Cruz’s of the world get all hyped up on rebuilding their temple, they need to get reigned in and it’s good to remember the incontrovertible fact that Israeli soldiers were filmed celebrating on 9/11.
 
See, the thing is we don’t need to completely blow Israel off and be super asshurt about them, but we DO need to be pragmatic about return on investment and bear in mind that Israelis are fucking ingrates.
Well, Israelis are... well... Israelis. Their heart and soul are in the right place, the problem is that they have always had an attitude of "FUCK THE RULES WE ARE DOING IT LIVE" and "who cares how it was done, it was done, and we got the results we needed right?" Which, yes, is fine, but there isn't much long-term thinking. It's all short-term all the time, at least public-facing. Remember, they had for like 70+ years an unofficial policy of just taking terrorists out back and shooting them because "why go through the wasted effort of a trial if we already know they are guilty," which, fine, I get it, but you can't be unofficially pulling that shit and then scream when lefties say you're "Immoral"

So sometimes when the Ted Cruz’s of the world get all hyped up on rebuilding their temple, they need to get reigned in and it’s good to remember the incontrovertible fact that Israeli soldiers were filmed celebrating on 9/11.
I have never seen that. I do know many Israelis had a reaction of "finally these Americans will understand what we have been dealing with with the fucking muslims". But they weren't happy like "mmm yes Americans are dead". Remember, many Jews have family (extended or direct) in NYC, and NYC is, outside of Israel, the center of Jewish life in the world. But anyone who thinks it's a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy shouldn't have kids.

The dancing Israelis' shit came directly from the father of one of the hijackers.
 
Well, Israelis are... well... Israelis. Their heart and soul are in the right place, the problem is that they have always had an attitude of "FUCK THE RULES WE ARE DOING IT LIVE" and "who cares how it was done, it was done, and we got the results we needed right?" Which, yes, is fine, but there isn't much long-term thinking. It's all short-term all the time, at least public-facing. Remember, they had for like 70+ years an unofficial policy of just taking terrorists out back and shooting them because "why go through the wasted effort of a trial if we already know they are guilty," which, fine, I get it, but you can't be unofficially pulling that shit and then scream when lefties say you're "Immoral"


I have never seen that. I do know many Israelis had a reaction of "finally these Americans will understand what we have been dealing with with the fucking muslims". But they weren't happy like "mmm yes Americans are dead". Remember, many Jews have family (extended or direct) in NYC, and NYC is, outside of Israel, the center of Jewish life in the world. But anyone who thinks it's a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy shouldn't have kids.

The dancing Israelis' shit came directly from the father of one of the hijackers.
People that think that are StufMcCool levels of retarded
 
nigger what

the only people filmed celebrating were the palestinians
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Those aren’t the types of names I associate with Palestinians.

I’m not even alleging any of the conspiratorial angle grok implied in this answer. I’m just saying they were celebrating, and it’s a fact.

I have never seen that. I do know many Israelis had a reaction of "finally these Americans will understand what we have been dealing with with the fucking muslims". But they weren't happy like "mmm yes Americans are dead". Remember, many Jews have family (extended or direct) in NYC, and NYC is, outside of Israel, the center of Jewish life in the world. But anyone who thinks it's a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy shouldn't have kids.
Yeah this is a plausible explanation.

Again, I’m not one of those “the Jews did 9/11” guys, but the situation illustrates a difference in perspective, is what I’m saying.

We should cooperate with them exclusively when mutually beneficial and not do favors.
 
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