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has anyone actually met anyone that is hung up on all this stuff IRL? I've never met someone that is a follower/believer/whatever of Owens, Massie, Kent, Fuentes etc. Hell, people barely know anything about the war other than it is something that is happening. Half these scandals I only know happened because of this thread and rage farming via podcasts.

It all strikes me as terminally online.
TikTok was forcefeeding my mom Candace Owens clips for a while. Not 100% sure but I'm starting to suspect my brother listens to Fuentes
 
Useful enough to keep those states red for the rest of time. Florida in particular.
I still can't fucking believe that Florida went from being a total swing state to solid red in my lifetime. It seems that, nowadays, the only swing states are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
 
enjoy watching the guy who believes that the second carthage war didn't happen and has zero qualifications other than being a Duginist.
It's called generational theory and it's real. It consists of taking historical patterns and understanding generational cycles to predict future events. Howe Strauss theory predicted Trump winning the election due to his win being a 4th turning of the generational cycle. So there is some credibility to it.

But I know you are very much against noticing patterns.
 
I still can't fucking believe that Florida went from being a total swing state to solid red in my lifetime. It seems that, nowadays, the only swing states are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Its incredible to see but the simple explanation is that once DeSantis got in they threw all effort and force into clamping down on voter fraud (remember he nearly lost to a gay drug attic sunbather by only a few votes), they brought Broward County to heel and like a waving a magic one the elections became legitimate and Florida went from asinine swing state to a deep red state.
 
Its incredible to see but the simple explanation is that once DeSantis got in they threw all effort and force into clamping down on voter fraud (remember he nearly lost to a gay drug attic sunbather by only a few votes), they brought Broward County to heel and like a waving a magic one the elections became legitimate and Florida went from asinine swing state to a deep red state.
it was a 20 year project that really started after the 2000 election. Susie Wiles, Trumps chief of staff was a huge part in turning FL. into the red fortress it is today.
 
Its incredible to see but the simple explanation is that once DeSantis got in they threw all effort and force into clamping down on voter fraud (remember he nearly lost to a gay drug attic sunbather by only a few votes), they brought Broward County to heel and like a waving a magic one the elections became legitimate and Florida went from asinine swing state to a deep red state.
It's genuinely amusing to me that once a state starts asking for government ID to vote, they magically turn Republican.
 
as I understood it you were talking about iraqis rebuilding their WMD program
So Iraq given enough time could have rebuilt, and rearmed as Iran has done numerous times despite sanctions.

Israel already negated the incentive of funding through bulldozing of homes of terrorists
But Saddam was more than happy to support anti-Israel action. Which is the point, and another reason why an Israel minister wouldn't dissuade Bush from invading.

Other than telling Bush that Iran was a bigger issue
Which, and for some reason you are unable to grasp, isn't a word against invading Iraq. Do you not see that? At best you have, do this country first, then worry about the other guy. Which doesn't work at all if your position is that Israel was opposed to the war in the first place.

this was minutes after he said that first thing. it's the same exact press conference as you can see by the link
I'll just quote myself here:
What he said after the fact, after the fallout from his initial remarks. Yes people in positions of power backtrack. Again, congratulations on figuring that out.
A backtrack is a backtrack. Israel advanced the timeline, Israel told Trump what was going to happen, Israel decided to start this war, and Trump just went along with it because he really has no choice.

because israel didn't know how things were going to turn out with the new government and Syrian airspace was heavily defended by AA. Israel could circumvent it but it was difficult. They took it out when they had the chance.
So while Iran was still the primary threat, Syria was still a problem. Just as Iraq under Saddam was still a problem for Israel, and would mean that an Israeli Prime Minister wouldn't dissuade a gung-ho American President from invading and toppling Saddam. Sharon said himself said Iraq was a problem.

Being clear with what I meant:

Curveball was a greater influence in the decision to attack Iraq than Israel would have been and he was vouched for by both American and British intelligence. America led itself into the war based off his testimony.
If Israel knew Saddam had no WMDs, then Israel would have known curveball was shit, and Israel would have (hopefully) told Bush so. So either Israel believed curveball, and thus wanted Saddam gone for that reason, or wanted Saddam gone for any of the other reasons stated before. And if Israel was so set on removing Iran as a threat than Iraq, then Ariel would have said as much to Bush that curveball was shit, not to invade Iraq and that instead he should go after Iran instead. Yet he did not.

I think at this point its clear to all, you have no actual proof Israel or Ariel Sharon tried to dissuade Bush from invading Iraq.
 
It's called generational theory and it's real. It consists of taking historical patterns and understanding generational cycles to predict future events. Howe Strauss theory predicted Trump winning the election due to his win being a 4th turning of the generational cycle. So there is some credibility to it.

But I know you are very much against noticing patterns.
i know of it but this guy is literally an English teacher in Beijing. He believes the world is run by a secret society (Illuminati) made up of Jesuits (Vatican), Frankists (Israel), and Free Masons (USA).




For someone who loves "noticing patterns", you should read this:


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So Iraq given enough time could have rebuilt, and rearmed as Iran has done numerous times despite sanctions.
but they were not interested in it as we now know from hindsight

Which, and for some reason you are unable to grasp, isn't a word against invading Iraq. Do you not see that? At best you have, do this country first, then worry about the other guy. Which doesn't work at all if your position is that Israel was opposed to the war in the first place.
You want there to be an order from Ariel Sharon to Bush saying "don't invade Iraq" when the Israeli position with the US was precarious due to happenings in the West Bank. This is diplomacy 101, speak gently and in soft suggestions.

A backtrack is a backtrack.
the second statement came minutes after the first, there was literally no time for fallout. people like you focused on statement one and ignored statement two which is why he repeated statement two the next day

Just as Iraq under Saddam was still a problem for Israel, and would mean that an Israeli Prime Minister wouldn't dissuade a gung-ho American President from invading and toppling Saddam. Sharon said himself said Iraq was a problem.
very simplistic thinking since iraq balanced out Iran, removing one enemy for another enemy to become more powerful is a problem, especially if the enemy that wins out was the one who was initially stronger

If Israel knew Saddam had no WMDs, then Israel would have known curveball was shit, and Israel would have (hopefully) told Bush so. So either Israel believed curveball, and thus wanted Saddam gone for that reason, or wanted Saddam gone for any of the other reasons stated before. And if Israel was so set on removing Iran as a threat than Iraq, then Ariel would have said as much to Bush that curveball was shit
Again, diplomacy

I think at this point its clear to all, you have no actual proof Israel or Ariel Sharon tried to dissuade Bush from invading Iraq.
other than what US officials said, what israeli officials said, and what he said to Nadav Eyal
 
I still can't fucking believe that Florida went from being a total swing state to solid red in my lifetime. It seems that, nowadays, the only swing states are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Florida went from "hanging chad" to "definitively Chad".

(Zoomers, ask your dad to explain this one to you.)
 
i know of it but this guy is literally an English teacher in Beijing. He believes the world is run by a secret society (Illuminati) made up of Jesuits (Vatican), Frankists (Israel), and Free Masons (USA).
I dunno what his beliefs are but he's also canadian and is on point about jeet population trying to take over in politics and tech. But nooo let's not notice.

 
is on point about jeet population trying to take over in politics and tech.
this has been going on since the 00s what are you on about

pointing out a pattern that is obvious doesn't mean that he's right about the other stuff he preaches. if the local schizo can do 2 + 2 then i'm not taking his advice on calculus
 
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