It's not splitting the vote because the vast majority of bongs simply aren't voting as every option is competing as to who can fuck them fastest. I think total turn out for the last general election was under 40%.
Linking to what I said about people getting their news via the internet, for most people, the last time they were aware of something being done about immigration was in the 2010 election.
During that election, the Conservative party promised a cap on immigration — 100k a year — and they won based on that promise.
On their way out however, the Labour party passed "The Equality Act 2010", which made it
illegal to discriminate in
any capacity based on someone's nationality, race, religion, etc.
The brand new supreme court — introduced by Labour — then blocked the attempt to implement an immigration cap because it
discriminated against immigrants.
This cap not being introduced was then quietly swept under the rug and was overshadowed by myriad other things, such as gay marriage and student riots against the rise in tuition fees. The Conservatives never even tried to repeal the Equality act which prevented this cap being introduced in the first place, or abolish the supreme court which was less than 15 years old at the time.
In 2023, most Britbongs were then made aware for the first time that
nothing had been done to prevent immigrant numbers rising, since — inexplicably — the Conservative party was loudly admonishing the rate of immigration and plastering the figures everywhere — 300k+ a year! A number that, for many, was presumed to be 3 times lower if not more given the back-2-back cap & Brexit ought to have reduced that figure to 5 digits at least. Off the back of Covid too, lots more people were making use of Tiktok and Twitter to spread adhoc propaganda/info/etc about all the stuff going on so I think the Conservatives were trying to take advantage of this simmering discontent to spectacularly bad results. (Pro tip:
If you're doing to "do something about immigration," but have your spokesperson be an immigrant themselves, it kind of takes the punch out of the promise)
This was such a system shock to the British electorate, that apathy swept throughout the public leading to the Labour party having a mandate based on just
35% of the turnout, which was at a historical low of just
60%
28,925,403 votes cast, meaning 10.1 million votes to Labour.
The last time apathy was this low was in 2001, when Labour was polling so high that many people didn't even bother to turnout.
A positive consequence of Covid was forcing boomers, zoomers, millennials, older Gen-X, etc, to familiarise themselves with the internet and alternate news source besides the tv. Social media - X/Twitter specially - also deserve some small measure of thanks for offering censorship-free platforms for the most part, allowing for the unfettered circulation of news and whatnot, something which wasn't all that possible in the UK prior. The 2024 riots and 2025 hotel protests wouldn't have been really possible without the freedom afforded by these news sources. It becomes obvious why the OSA was passed by Labour in 2024 despite it being a Conservative bill introduced in 2022/2023 under this context.
Fact of the matter in, the 2024 election was the one where a lot of people, for the first time, had to confront the fact that none of the parties were viable. It was only after that piece of human slime killed those little girls that a lot of platitudes regarding tolerance and anti-racism truly died off.
The British-right's approach to Leftist/brown bawling is as simple as it is effective.
I'll stop bombarding the US news thread with bloviations about the UK situation.
The only comparison that I think can be made between the UK and US is the effectiveness of censorship and its impact on right-leaning outcomes.
Trump wins Republican primary + online right grow exponentially in places like Youtube + the great "meme wars": 2015
Brexit + Trump victory, "bloodsports": 2016
Charlottesville -> Online censorship crackdown against the Right: 2017 ---- anti right-wing censorship across the net
Brexit softened immeasurably, Theresa May's proposal of an "immigration cap" provokes the Conservative party into forcing her resignation: 2019
Trump loss or "loss"/UK Covid lockdowns go into effect and are some of the harshest in Europe: 2020
Elon Twitter acquisition: 2022 ---- decrease in anti right-wing censorship across the net
Trump victory, growth of right-wing influencers in formerly suppressive spheres/UK Conservative party loss (they're not really right-wing) + nationwide riots: 2024
Mass illegal immigration crackdown + tariffs + cowing of US Conservative establishment/Reform #1 poll + hotel protests + remigration enters right-wing zeitgeist + September "Unite the Kingdom" rally: 2025
There's lots of little things you can point to that aren't mentioned but it becomes
The only reason this hasn't benefited places like France and Germany is because the free speech laws of the USA mean you make a controversial political statement without fear of arrest and the free speech laws of the UK (
don't laugh!) are so labyrinthian that you can get arrested for calling someone a nigger if they report you for it but you can also
March un-masked in public calling for the removal of legal immigrants.
Or gather in the 10s of thousands disparaging illegals and calling for freedom of speech
Also sharing a language helps for situational co-operation. The UK right helped boost Trump and the US right helped boost news over the protests and other tyrannies of the UK gov. Whilst it was sometimes done disparagingly ("They thing they can vote their way out of this lmaoooo"/"If only they had guns..."/"Absolute state!") is did help spread awareness on the various algorithms and whatnot. The French and Germans don't really have that so they're more or less alone unless them some bilingual sorts who can spread awareness in other circles.
Last thing:
The
apathy of 2024 in the UK leading to a pyrrhic victory for the left and the higher energy displayed by the US right should serve as a lesson to the right-wing in general:
Losing hope in your country and its future is handing victory to the enemy.
That's indisputable. A broken nationalist is barely an improvement over an outright traitor so keep your chin up, otherwise you're helping the people you hate.
It's why I take to insults and jabs better than the idea the situation is hopeless. Even when I pop into this thread and others occasionally, and I see a blackpilled American or something, I feel compelled to inform said person that the situation isn't entirely hopeless. I've even extended the same courtesy and defended the French of all people. There's always some caveat to something that people don't account for that, when registered, makes the point of worry negligible or not too severe in retrospect.
It might take a year, five or ten, but things will come back around eventually, you'll see.