US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Gap Hag]

Its not timed. It just comes down to running a cost/benefits analysis. If it becomes cheaper to producd, can be powered and produces a profit then it's "released". It's not like a disclosure or aliens thing lol. Also the public is the best kind of beta tester you could ask for. Mass adoption of new consumer technology results in rapid refinement of that technology. So the benefits goes both ways. We get cool new stuff. They get telemetry/data to make the stuff they have better, faster.

It didn't fail per say. The ammunition was too expensive to produce at that scale and store. But the data was invaluable in the development of our new tank shells that are basically the same but scaled up. New US tanks will be using a smart shell that is programmed inside the breach. Turns out it's actually a good idea when you're not trying to cram a computer into a .50cal

But how far ahead in terms of shit that can truly fuck people up is the military still?

 

[JambledUpWords]

its every area of every sector, Ai is taking jobs like we all worried, they are just being quiet about it
1.17 mil jobs lost last year
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Source

AI’s capabilities are different from human capabilities, and therefore cannot replace humans entirely. This study breaks down why that is, with the main argument being that AI can be designed to perform basic tasks, but that higher level reasoning skills we associate with humans has not been able to be perfectly replicated in AI in its current form.

However, no matter how intelligent and autonomous AI agents become in certain respects, at least for the foreseeable future, they probably will remain unconscious machines or special-purpose devices that support humans in specific, complex tasks. As digital machines they are equipped with a completely different operating system (digital vs biological) and with correspondingly different cognitive qualities and abilities than biological creatures, like humans and other animals

The study, however, does grant this concession:

The fact that humans possess general intelligence does not imply that new inorganic forms of general intelligence should comply to the criteria of human intelligence. In this connection, the present paper addresses the way we think about (natural and artificial) intelligence in relation to the most probable potentials (and real upcoming issues) of AI in the short- and mid-term future.

This means that if AI were to effectively replace certain jobs, it would have to be ones in which is can successfully mimic human intelligence with the skills necessary. This means the jobs getting lost would be ones where your job is to crunch numbers to be handed to a supervisor for further analysis. That being said, from people I’ve met who have had to do high level math equations for their work, AI has yet to get the process for those ones right.

Of course, you must factor in the cost of maintaining AI when thinking of replacing a human workforce. ChatGPT costs $700K daily to run, which would be $225.5 million per year. This is only for one type of AI bot. On top of that, AI services for companies aren’t free, as they need to pay just to use the service. Depending on if AI is still this expensive to run in the future, certain companies might have to fold and go back to a human workforce if costs become too prohibitive.

Then you have the general societal issues with rampant AI. It doesn’t take a genius to know that if you replace a lot of your workforce with AI that there will be fewer people able to buy their products, as they wouldn’t be making money from any sort of job. That alone isn’t sustainable, because it turns out you need to hire real people and pay them so they can sustain an economy. If it does happen, it is perhaps the best argument for Universal Basic Income, but that’s also a way to trigger extremely high inflation rates.

I personally think AI is just the new NFTs for corporate executives. The way it is being managed and the resources required means it can’t be sustainable until more efficient electrical grids are developed, and there are advances made in storing information. It may as well be a rich person MLM for the operational costs versus the profits made from it.

 

[Shark Senpai]

No, the US was researching lasers for a long time but had no active drone denial system confirmed until now. According to the public timeline, they shouldn't have this.

P-HEL (Palletized High Energy Laser) reached IOC in 2022 and was deployed though idk if where it was deployed is publicly known. The Army has also been working on follow on HEL programs for mounted systems. This is excluding obviously the historic laser systems such as the 1960s program that proved the possibility of lasers to intercept cruise missiles (albeit from a flying laboratory flying parallel to said missile) and the 90s program to develop a fleet of 747s to shoot down SCUDs that was so expensive it just became a testbed aircraft instead.

The main breakthrough as I understand it was learning how to make HELs out of Solid State Lasers rather than using chemical lasers that the legacy airborne systems had used.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

(albeit from a flying laboratory flying parallel to said missile)

ah, like the first hydrogen bomb needing a slightly bulky industrial warehouse to hold the mechanism in place

 

[WelperHelper99]

What's the last thing you could think of that was military tech that was unveiled that they've had for a long ass time in secret?

The Internet. Microchips. GPS. List goes on really

 

[mandatorylurk]

I'm glad people are catching on to Faggy Massie's constant excuses, and he sounded like an emotional bitch today. It's a bad showing when you make me pick Bondi over you.

 

[CapricornusRex]

Who is the formidable and intelligent black woman?

It doesn't matter because a mediocre black man is still superior to a "formidable and intelligent black woman".

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Is it a threat if I tell a cop I could discombobulated them?

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Emiru had nothing to apologize for. She's only doing it cause people dug into her personal friendship with asmongold and tectone. I genueally don't know why people want non-political streamers to insert themselves. and i'm at a point where i'm glad this "fuck ICE" crap is falling apart. and people acting like moistcritikal is a legal expert on ICE will never not amuse me.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

The amusing thing is they still don't have anyone to run for 2028 that's better than they had in 2024. Newsom's pretty much cratered. Crockett is gonna be gone for sure. AOC seems to be in hiding again, maybe to bring out after midterms to start her ranting for it though.

Grok says:
Key frontrunners include Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, and AOC, based on recent polls.

I remember when they were seriously pushing Beto and Walz not long ago.

The left's idea of a viable candidate has been hilariously fucked for quite some time now. You can make a video of people they wanted to run and it'd be rated as a top tier comedy.

Anyone remember when they thought Avenatti was gonna be the one to take Trump down?

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

That being said, from people I’ve met who have had to do high level math equations for their work, AI has yet to get the process for those ones right.

There must be different and superior specialty stuff available, but what's sold/displayed to the public as "AI"—the version of it that's going to replace us all at our jobs—can't even count.

You can graft number-understanding onto any programming, obviously. Y'know, computers. But no LLM-like thing seems to have access to mathematics, no way to conceive of it (so to speak), no idea of its own when it's time to math, rather than to imitate mathematical output.

And while much of math is about probability, very litte of it—none I can think of, but I can sort of imagine it so I assume there's something—is probabilistic (in a "meta" way). So it's outside the realm of chatbot possibility. I can kind of conceive of how to make it otherwise, but—

"This looks like a job for normal computing."
"No, it looks like you're fired, Bradley. Shitmar! Bring me six more of your cousins!"

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Then you have the general societal issues with rampant AI. It doesn’t take a genius to know that if you replace a lot of your workforce with AI that there will be fewer people able to buy their products, as they wouldn’t be making money from any sort of job. That alone isn’t sustainable, because it turns out you need to hire real people and pay them so they can sustain an economy. If it does happen, it is perhaps the best argument for Universal Basic Income, but that’s also a way to trigger extremely high inflation rates.

The societal issues are the biggest ones I see looming and no one is talking about it. The AI hate people are furries and trannies who seethe about art on bluesky, not the significant implications of AI.
Cost of living was already an accelerating issue before AI, now its going to get even worse as it puts more people out of work. Post-covid, companies continue to operate on skeleton crews of workers. Government is useless because we have boomers who want to offshore more and wants to ignore the problems as long as the stock market goes up. Its not going to be an issue until social security and gibs run out because no one is able to pay into them anymore, by that time the damage will have already been done.

I personally think AI is just the new NFTs for corporate executives. The way it is being managed and the resources required means it can’t be sustainable until more efficient electrical grids are developed, and there are advances made in storing information. It may as well be a rich person MLM for the operational costs versus the profits made from it.

I don't think they're like NFTs since they're already being implemented in the workforce at breakneck speed. Its not a replacing humans 100% but its replacing the need for as many people as there were before to do the job. So a job for 10 people can now be done with 5 because the workload is manageable for those 5 people now.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Is it a threat if I tell a cop I could discombobulated them?

No, because that’s past tense

 

[Shark Senpai]

ah, like the first hydrogen bomb needing a slightly bulky industrial warehouse to hold the mechanism in place

I believe it was a refit Boeing 707. NKC-135 here's a drawing of its layout you can find online. It wasn't intended to be used operationally but to be a testbed and proof of concept that you could mount a powerful enough laser on an aircraft to down a missile. The chemical lasers used on her and the YAL were dead ends for anything you wanted to be able to move on the ground though, especially with how toxic the product of firing the laser is (the YAL just jettisoned that out the back door since it flew high enough that it would be safely diluted, idk about the Airborne Laser Lab)
Someone figured out around the 90s a method to combine solid state lasers so you can for example stick 2 10-watt lasers together to get a 20-watt beam. Next hurdle to overcome is the heat issue for solid state lasers.

 

[George Lucas]

Ver archivo adjunto 8547689 these have been around for a while and don't get talked about nor could we buy them or own them.

Also this, even older.Ver archivo adjunto 8547716

Have you been able to buy a stealth tech vehicle yet?


They failed you say, but that testimony in venezuela sounded a lot like its still in use.

Something about the look of these chunky PDWs for military use rub me the wrong way. Is having a chunky thing like this a good idea to add to a soldier's silhouette?

 

[Davis]

Of course, you must factor in the cost of maintaining AI when thinking of replacing a human workforce. ChatGPT costs $700K daily to run, which would be $225.5 million per year. This is only for one type of AI bot. On top of that, AI services for companies aren’t free, as they need to pay just to use the service. Depending on if AI is still this expensive to run in the future, certain companies might have to fold and go back to a human workforce if costs become too prohibitive.

Then you have the general societal issues with rampant AI. It doesn’t take a genius to know that if you replace a lot of your workforce with AI that there will be fewer people able to buy their products, as they wouldn’t be making money from any sort of job. That alone isn’t sustainable, because it turns out you need to hire real people and pay them so they can sustain an economy. If it does happen, it is perhaps the best argument for Universal Basic Income, but that’s also a way to trigger extremely high inflation rates.

As with most every new invention, the increased productivity means some jobs can be cut, but it also allows for further expansion. The accounting firm used to need 1000 CPAs to service their whole client base, but now maybe they only need 500. Do they lay off the other 500? Some of them do, others simply take the opportunity to expand their clientele to take advantage of the freed up labor, or utilize them for more advanced/varied products. Adapting to the ever changing market is a fact many of us will have to deal with.

On the more pessimistic side, the biggest problem AI will bring is that it's really good at doing the newbies' work to a similar or better quality. In the short run this is no problem for the company, but the pipeline of new hires to veterans could be heavily disrupted, and if too many companies are shortsighted it can sink entire industries into labor shortages over time.

 

[JambledUpWords]

The societal issues are the biggest ones I see looming and no one is talking about it. The AI hate people are furries and trannies who seethe about art on bluesky, not the significant implications of AI.
Cost of living was already an accelerating issue before AI, now its going to get even worse as it puts more people out of work. Post-covid, companies continue to operate on skeleton crews of workers. Government is useless because we have boomers who want to offshore more and wants to ignore the problems as long as the stock market goes up. Its not going to be an issue until social security and gibs run out because no one is able to pay into them anymore, by that time the damage will have already been done.

Sam Altman is also a modern day snake oil salesman, and he’s a millennial. It’s not just boomers that are the problem. Life would be way simpler if it were.

 

[GunCar Gary]

I don't think they're like NFTs since they're already being implemented in the workforce at breakneck speed. Its not a replacing humans 100% but its replacing the need for as many people as there were before to do the job.

now that the novelty of AI is wearing off people who are realizing it isn't actually an AGI will wander off after getting bored and people who were quietly integrating it into their job or hobbies will continue to have boring but important gains in how they work. like all new technologies the jobs AI is taking up are entry-level and busywork jobs that are there until they aren't. trannies and commies who think they've won after the AI buzz goes away will be very confused as their useless jobs dry up over time

when the first AGI gets created it will probably fly under the radar for a while because it'll be some ultra advanced sex chatbot by some guy who really wants to goon to Krystal from Star Fox in the most realistic way possible

 

[Jace on ice]

Anyone remember when they thought Avenatti was gonna be the one to take Trump down?

That was hilarious. They were seriously gassing up real life Saul Goodman as this super ethical and moral guy unlike Drumpf.

 

[FlappyBat]

You do need to do something about outsourcing because even if you did something about H1B's entering the country companies will still just outsource everything away.

They've actually already done some of that. Under TCJA (Biden admin) R&D expenses including software development was required to be written off over a 5 year period if the expenses were domestic and over a 15 year period of international. Under the OBBBA (Trump admin) the 5 year period for domestic was removed allowing the full write off to be applied in the year the expenses were realized but the 15 year for international was maintained, making the difference between domestic and international research and development (including all programmer expenses) even more distinct.

It's fine to say that's not enough. But the difference between being able to expenses their programmer payroll the year it happens vs over 15 years is a big deal to tech companies.

Emiru had nothing to apologize for. She's only doing it cause people dug into her personal friendship with asmongold and tectone. I genueally don't know why people want non-political streamers to insert themselves. and i'm at a point where i'm glad this "fuck ICE" crap is falling apart. and people acting like moistcritikal is a legal expert on ICE will never not amuse me.

It's a show of force. "You, the non-political streamer will make a statement agreeing with us or we will harass and intimidate you until you do." It also helps them frame their side of the argument as "non-politcal" and the default position when they force otherwise publicly non-political people to make those statements.