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Should be a wild four years.

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I think Biden was actually fairly competent for most of his career. He just came across as a dumbass near the end because he was completely senile and served as a figurehead for a group of dumbasses who were actually running things behind the scenes. He wasnt a dumbass, just a potato
For real. I met Biden in Tallahassee in 2008 at a rally during the Obama campaign and he wasn't the senile old fart he was when he took office in 2020. He was, at one point, a pretty good orator and it might have been interesting to see his and Obama's roles reversed (Obama as VP, Biden as Pres) back then instead of what we got.

Biden's handlers and the DNC leadership should be hanged for running him for 2020 and actually making him take office. You just know they were hoping he'd croak in office to let Kamala ascend her throne.

If I have to torture some kind of retarded logic from this I guess I would suppose he is trying to say they weren’t actually illegal until President Trump revoked their protected status without allowing them any avenue to seek permanent residency or safe deportation.
But "protected status" also acknowledges their illegal status -- it literally meant "you're technically illegal but for now we'll be nice and pretend you're not."

Even when they're lying they're still fucking wrong.
 
But "protected status" also acknowledges their illegal status -- it literally meant "you're technically illegal but for now we'll be nice and pretend you're not."

Even when they're lying they're still fucking wrong.
You say that like they care. Remember we literally had a high ranking member of the IRA allowed to stay here basically as a citizen in all but name on the orders of Bill Clinton until last year.
 
Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America, and all NATO Nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the Tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st. Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress. Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations — They will report directly to me. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Trump got what he wanted. 8D chess grandmaster still has his shit. Lmao. The Euros will act like they won when Trump has gotten what he originally wanted from the beginning. Lmao.
 
EU historically doesn't play nice with the US when it comes to negotiations about trade and defense. Even before Trump it would take a lot of back and forth to get anything done. Many EU regulations also exist just to spite US companies.

There wouldnt have been a negotiation with the EU. The EU doesn't control sovereign territory of nation states. Greenland isn't even in the EU.

The USA has had an agreement with Denmark to have bases on Greenland for sixty years and has chosen to reduce that number to the one it currently has.

There's no reason to think that an increase in the number of bases under that agreement would be a problem.

Its like threatening to shoot up a McDonalds unless they sell you a Big Mac.
 
We have no idea what this deal is. All we have is Trump stating he conversed with the head of NATO and has a framework for a deal with Greenland and the Arctic Region. Trump is taking the tariff threat down but that was only if he got Greenland. Why would he go to NATO and not Denmark? NATO can't offer him Greenland so something besides Greenland got Trump to drop the tariffs.

My guess is that Mark Rutte told him of either ongoing or upcoming Arctic defense strategies which assuaged Trump about the security of the region. Trump seems to respect Rutte and trusts his word.

Trump can spin this as a win, although I would like to see the specifics of what the US is doing now in regard to Greenland.
You guys are thinking way to heavily on this. Trump wanted greenland to help build the infrastructure necessary for his golden dome missile defense system. The odds are that they have agreed to allow him to build the infrastructure for said system in turn for not having greenland.
 
There wouldnt have been a negotiation with the EU. The EU doesn't control sovereign territory of nation states. Greenland isn't event in the EU.

The USA has had an agreement with Denmark to have bases on Greenland for sixty years and has chosen to reduce that number to the one it currently has.

There's no reason to think that an increase in the number of bases under that agreement would be a problem.

Its like threatening to shoot up a McDonalds unless they sell you a Big Mac.
it's like walking up to the franchise owners and saying you'd like to have all the profits and be the owner of it, you fucking retard. we're not taking greenland because it's funny. we're taking it because we want access to all of the natural resources and land they have.
 
it's like walking up to the franchise owners and saying you'd like to have all the profits and be the owner of it, you fucking retard. we're not taking greenland because it's funny. we're taking it because we want access to all of the natural resources and land they have.

You're not getting Greenland though.
 
It would be funny if the US just starts moving troops and construction companies into Greenland until they outnumber the 5000 Euros there by 20 to 1, then they just pick those guys up and put them on a boat. The blubber chuggers can stay. They're chill.
 
lolwut?
I don't think too many people here ever thought Biden was the "mastermind" behind that. General consensus has been that those were Obama and Hilldawg machinations.
He was the puppet, not the puppet master.
Hell, ask Bernie about those two, not that you'll get an honest answer.
I’ve always found it really funny that Biden probably thought he’d won fair and square in 2020 (and probably still does, if he knew it was rigged in his favor he’d have slipped up and mentioned it by now)
 
EU historically doesn't play nice with the US when it comes to negotiations about trade and defense. Even before Trump it would take a lot of back and forth to get anything done. Many EU regulations also exist just to spite US companies.
Absolutely. One of Trump's original campaign points even back for the first term was that the US had willingly and stupidly negotiated weak trade deals with our allies. The EU was formed in part for the participants to negotiate stronger trading power as a unit. They've given us the sticking end many times on trade because we allow it, but whenever the US does something major to realign trade interests, the whining from liberals and Euro politicians kills me. "WhY aRe YoU tReAtInG a FrIeNd ThIs WaY?" :(
 
I’ve always found it really funny that Biden probably thought he’d won fair and square in 2020 (and probably still does, if he knew it was rigged in his favor he’d have slipped up and mentioned it by now)
He really was the perfect puppet patsy, wasn't he?
 
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