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Didn't Jesus say that he'd return with a sword?
Yes, though that's a weapon, i'm talking about fear. Christianity is more nuanced on violence and war than liberals try to make it out to be, but it's pretty clear that weaponizing fear itself is the devil's weapon. Though it can be hard to differentiate between being feared and being respected, and the bible does tell you to hold your head high, stand for what you believe in, and not give into bullying etc. I think given the complexities of the international world setting this precident is getting respect like a lion roaring rather than fear like a snake biting. But the line can get blurry.

Either way, today is an america fuck yeah day.
 
The reason I think this is that this sets the precedent again that the US is the world police. I know many people here forget, but a big part of the original MAGA campaign was that we would be America first and let other countries nominally handle themselves unless they were directly harming Americans. Does anyone logically think this move will do anything to stop the influx of drugs into this country? The problem is not that people make drugs, its that people want to consume them. They will just come from another country.

This sets the precedent imo that the US will be involved in policing other countries and enacting regime change if we deem fit. Trump stated the US will run Venezuela "until a just transition" takes place. Are we really okay being bogged down running countries around the world?

TLDR: It just seems antithetical to being America first. We have so many fucking problems here at home, why would we do regime change and get bogged down in endless foreign wars? I dont want my tax dollars going to fixing and running Venezuela.
They were directly harming the United States though? Did you forget all their gangs running drugs here and taking over entire apartment blocks in places like Colorado? Literal foreign invasion.
 
Turns out it's pretty easy to keep things under wraps when you don't tell the traitorous niggers in Congress ahead of time.
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Is this fucking retard seriously saying it's not constitutional while stating the law that he was arrested under.
Also the war times act Massie, did you bitch and moan when every single president since it's inception has used it
 
As impressive as this was, what exactly does this get us? Do we get to Annex Venezuela, and expand our borders? Probably not. If we install some new pro-US regime, it probably won't go well. The Venezuelans will need to pick their own new leaders, which could go any way.
 
Yes, though that's a weapon, i'm talking about fear. Christianity is more nuanced on violence and war than liberals try to make it out to be, but it's pretty clear that weaponizing fear itself is the devil's weapon. Though it can be hard to differentiate between being feared and being respected, and the bible does tell you to hold your head high, stand for what you believe in, and not give into bullying etc. I think given the complexities of the international world setting this precident is getting respect like a lion roaring rather than fear like a snake biting. But the line can get blurry.

Either way, today is an america fuck yeah day.
The line between fear and respect is thin. It’s why parenting can be so hard.
 
As impressive as this was, what exactly does this get us? Do we get to Annex Venezuela, and expand our borders? Probably not. If we install some new pro-US regime, it probably won't go well. The Venezuelans will need to pick their own new leaders, which could go any way.
To be fair, part of why this happened is because China and Iran had visited Venezuela, hell, the Chinese delegation might still be in there.

It's not just the oil and the drug trafficking, it was a legitimately large geopolitical target to take over.
 
Everyone bitching about this needs to consider that Duterte is under ICC custody for "crimes against humanity" in the Philippine Drug War. How many lives would we have saved if we actually treated the War on Drugs like a War on Drugs and attacked the problem at its source? How many people got arrested for defending themselves against foreign invaders, or little things like criticizing Muslims on the internet *cough*EU*cough* How many of your pets committed crimes against people just to get a slap on the wrist, or no punishment at all?

This is what US sovereignty looks like. Fuck Maduro, I hope his capture marks the start of a new era.
 
Completely ridicolous.
Venezuela was a gay narco-commie regime, but even trying to pretend this is somewhat lawful is retarded.

Just be honest, "we toppled a regime because it was acting against our national interests"
I would have more respect for that than those impotent attempts at legitimization.

You are not morally superior.
Literally what does the word lawful mean? Can you answer without a giant wall of text?
 
This is what not paying attention does to a mf.

They DID pick their own leader. Maduro stole power from her.
The problem is that Its impossible to KNOW that. Even if Maduro did win, he could have trumped the numbers up to make him look good. Commies do retarded shit like that all the time. What if the Venezuelans truly are just retarded and would vote another commie in?
 
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