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It's a slippery slope for sure. I have mixed feelings for sure. I don't like the term 'hate speech'. She should've just said 'illegal speech'. Things like slander, threats. The term 'hate speech' is too tainted now and can be can mean almost anything.

For instance, I do support arresting destiny now. What he is doing is flat terrorism.
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I don't keep up with his drama
iirc he puts out revenge porn, but does he fuck guys, too?
 
Let's play a game of "Guess that Journalist!"
Which news publication wrote the following?
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If you guessed CNN, congratulations, you won!
If you guessed it was written by Kevin Liptak or Adam Cancryn, you get bonus points.
source, archive
CNN (2001) dijo:
It wasn't clear who or what exactly Bush would designate; Islamic Jihadists are a loosely organized movement without a distinct leader, membership lists or structure.
The journalists are playing dumb and pretending that terrorist cells are a new concept.
 
Napoleon ruled, actually.

Not only did he rule, he had to deftly navigate (and survive) the post-rein of terror period (which at any time could have began again) while re-asserting his own right to act as a de factor monarchy. The man had his flaws but he was a smart motherfucker, fo sho. Anyone talking about politics who hasn't read about his changes in France should stop now and read up.
 
I'd love to hear alternatives that aren't "I guess we'll have to accept we'll keep getting shot and we can never be in public again".

Eventually the issue is going to be forced because the Marxists will not, and cannot, just leave people the fuck alone. They will push, they will advocate, and in the end they will kill. They killed Charlie Kirk for the crime of refusing to bow to them - his defiance was 'debate' and that was a capital offense because at their heart their rhetoric is not about persuading, it is an excuse to exercise power and if you won't go along they will use force. (The ultimate authority from which all other derives.) The Left doesn't want a debate or a compromise, they want total control, they want you and your wife dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they'll think its funny.

If Trump cannot somehow find a way to tard wrangle Bondi and Kash into using legal government power to rip out vast swathes of the Marxist infection that exists as a power network in our institutions, to somehow turn back the clock on this long march in some relatively civil and 'normal' manner like mass arrests and executions (prison sentences won't work, the next leftist president will pardon them) then its going to continue getting worse. Eventually its going to end up in a confluence of Marxist incompetence, public dissatisfaction, and a lucky break that brings an actual far right populist to the fore - one that combines the charisma of Trump with the white-hot righteousness of der Volk and zero respect for the civil systems that were co-opted by the Marxist regime. All this stuff going on right now is cold, low intensity shit, barely held back from going hot by the grace of God and Trump's remaining Boomeresque respect and nostalgia for government systems.

You want an alternative? Here's some:
1. Impeach, remove, and disbar attorneys, judges, and DAs that have conspired to bring terror to the people by releasing criminals en masse, and whom have worked to form a judicial insurrection with frivolous suits. (After the Supreme Court explained twice that your case can't be filed in X way, and you do it anyway and a lower court judge signs off on it, the only explanation is malice or gross incompetence.)
2. With the freedom from 1, declare ANTIFA a terrorist network, and disrupt the network of NGOs that organize, fund and defend these actions. The National Lawyers Guild and similar organizations must be kneecapped, and any other law firms that get involved must be investigated and their attorneys charged and set up for execution with their clients. (If you have a problem with this, lets recall what was done to Trump's attorneys. The seal has been broken.)
3. Total Military Cleansing - Obama did everything he could to reshape the US military by personally interviewing and vetting Commie-friendly flag officers. All these officers must be removed, by court martial and execution if necessary for multiple crimes, like lying to the Commander in Chief or cooperating with China. The entire flag officer corp might need to be replaced, and NOT from the succession lines set up by the commies.
4. Absolute University Death - Cut ALL Federal funding and student loan guarantees for higher education, making college loans eligible to be discharged in bankruptcy. These 'people' are dysfunctional and cannot survive without other people's money, cutting the flow would force the parasites out of the universities and have massive downstream effects as they have to start delivering value instead of cultish brainwashing.
5. Overturn Hart-Cellar, denaturalize and deport all the illegals and their 'legal' spawn to reverse the demographic shifts, close off visas and deny our enemies access to our secrets. Too many 'students' and others defect back to China or other nations with our information, stop letting them take it for free. Third world foreigners bring shitty third world culture and ideas, which are poisoning this country. Get them out. If their country of origin won't take them, dump them in life boats off the coast and let them wash ashore. Its not our problem.

Any one of these would do a lot, all five would be great, and they're better than an open civil conflict with blood in the streets.
 
For our sanity when posting about "speech crackdowns" can people here skip starting with the qualifier "while I dont support usually or try and support both sides speech or i typically dont agree with" we fucking get it. This is a watershed moment for political violence and tip toeing is gay and retarded. Frankly I dont care if lefties like destiny or Hasan get vanned. Fuck em.
 
I loathe Pam Bondi and have been vocal about how much she sucks since that failure Epstein list photo op. I swear to God, Trump should fire her for this. Vance and Miller, and even Kash, have come out vocally strong. They are motivating their base to stay on course and keep pushing. Pam is doing the opposite here.

I have to say though, her latest fumble might accidentally make the Left support free speech. Every time Trump's crew says they're for something, the Left ends up screaming against it. For example, the Left is now against limiting seed oils and banning food dyes now that JFK Jr has decided to be against it. It would be hilarious if we start seeing the Left suddenly champion "hate speech" because of what Pam Bondi said.

edit: I just realized Pam also said doxing is illegal. God I hate this woman so much.
 
You only can begin this by basically giving the Government free reign to spy on citizens, even more so than it already does.
It's difficult to imagine how much worse that can be. The government already has access to our phones, computers, ring cameras, and cars. They have corporations collecting the information, and then they take it from the corpos without any warrant or due process. The only way it could get worse is if they stuck spy equipment into your body.

And then, you give the government a pass to begin hauling people into jail for mean things posted online like we're fucking the UK or something.
Are you retarded? There's a clear difference between saying, "Donald Trump is a Cheeto colored moron who is controlled by his funny little wig" and saying, "Donald Trump needs to be shot in real life, not Minecraft." The former is mean free speech; the latter is a terroristic threat that needs to be investigated and punished.
 
After a lot of the shit people posted, I don't see why Bondi's statement can be taken as over the top.
The problem is calls to violence. That is what needs to be criminally prosecuted. Pam Bondi saying this line allows the left to recontextualize any attempts to go after speech inciting violence as an attack on free speech by defining it herself as hate speech.
 
edit: I just realized Pam also said doxing is illegal. God I hate this woman so much.

Yeah, I was going to point out that "doxing" isn't illegal. I think there's a sub-text to her comment about "swatting" too. It sounds reasonable, until you wonder, given the general direction, if it's saying, you cannot call police on govt officials, even when those officials might be in direct violation of the law. A double standard, essentially.
 
After a lot of the shit people posted, I don't see why Bondi's statement can be taken as over the top.
Because she had a really bad dumb blond movement that plays really bad in a sound clip.

Hate speech is fine. Go ahead and say you hate niggers,spic, gays, white, etc for what ever reason and why. It a problem (which the trannies are doing) when you move from "I hate person/group" to "and now I'm going to kill them". That's that part that needs to be cracked down on.
 
Are you retarded? There's a clear difference between saying, "Donald Trump is a Cheeto colored moron who is controlled by his funny little wig" and saying, "Donald Trump needs to be shot in real life, not Minecraft." The former is mean free speech; the latter is a terroristic threat that needs to be investigated and punished.
Those are both examples of free speech. Brandenburg v. Ohio set the censorship of inflammatory speech at imminent, lawless action. Calling for the death of the President is not a crime.

The standard you are suggesting would also indict every poster here that has expressed a desire for violence against any person or group.
 
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