US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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As fun and exciting as it is to LARP here with graphic descriptions of a military scale operation against a horde of leftist Tranny faggots on Discord, and as engaging as it is for the current Administration's fringe members to froth at the mouth about doing just that, the reality of that is impossible with going into ACTUAL fascist shit undeniably. You're literally talking about arresting people for talking shit about the government at that point and it's hilarious that some of the same people who demand good ol america values and freedoms advocate for that.

You only can begin this by basically giving the Government free reign to spy on citizens, even more so than it already does. And then, you give the government a pass to begin hauling people into jail for mean things posted online like we're fucking the UK or something.

Yeah, you might bust up a couple circles of whacko blue hairs in the process, but when you start hauling people to jail or putting them against the wall because "You posted a meme showing Donald Trump getting pegged by a Transexual man while the Transexual man's speech bubble said "Death to America and the Transphobic fascists"", Suddenly people won't be so off base when they compare the Trump administration to the actual Gestapo. It's the urban warfare of ideology. You're fighting against people who blend in with the regular citizenry online and you just have to start shooting everyone you don't recognize.
 
It’s really astounding to me how much two weak links on the chain are fucking EVERYTHING up for an administration that by all accounts was shaping up to be a dream team. I know loyalty is important to trump and he rewards it in kind but fucking hell man, did he really survive an assassins bullet by divine grace to get absolutely bogged down by a blonde and an Indian?
At this point I think that Trump must’ve put incompetents in these positions on purpose as a form of self defence, considering what happened last time. But if these two are incapable of helping, they owe it to everyone else to at least shut the fuck up and stay out of trouble.

Edit: I sure as shit hope that Patel and Bondi aren’t the ones in charge of this administration’s quest to prove that this leftist chaos is an organised conspiracy… if these two are managing that task I guarantee it will be a fiasco.
Steps to immediately remediate Bondi’s mess up, barring resignation/firing (problematic since a new AG will be difficult to confirm):

1. Pull this particular podcast (yes, Katie Miller is Stephen’s wife) and scrub it as best as possible from Xitter.
2. Immediately have Bondi record and put up a pinned video post word-for-word repeating what Kirk had to say about hate speech.
3. Bar Bondi from taking any more interviews and let the deputy AG do the talking from that point onwards.

Countersignaling, and especially saying the 100% opposite of what your slain hero said and died for is completely unacceptable.
 
I really don't envy the position Trump's in. He's a guy roughly in the center of the spectrum while the populace is being dragged to the extremes by both sides. Even his admin in affected by this split.
I think he's just naturally indecisive, but is really good at bluffing. But when he's actually got to put the cards now, he's unsure if he should or not.
As fun and exciting as it is to LARP here with graphic descriptions of a military scale operation against a horde of leftist Tranny faggots on Discord, and as engaging as it is for the current Administration's fringe members to froth at the mouth about doing just that, the reality of that is impossible with going into ACTUAL fascist shit undeniably. You're literally talking about arresting people for talking shit about the government at that point and it's hilarious that some of the same people who demand good ol america values and freedoms advocate for that.

You only can begin first by basically giving the Government free reign to spy on citizens, even more so than it already does. And then, you give the government a pass to begin hauling people into jail for mean things posted online like we're fucking the UK or something.

Yeah, you might bust up a couple circles of whacko blue hairs in the process, but when you start hauling people to jail or putting them against the wall because "You posted a meme showing Donald Trump getting pegged by a Transexual man while the Transexual man's speech bubble said "Death to America and the Transphobic fascists"", Suddenly people won't be so off base when they compare the Trump administration to the actual Gestapo.
It's not about locking up freakish leftists who make dances on Tiktok. It's about getting to the bottom of the network that created Tyler Robinson and sent him out to kill Charlie Kirk. He clearly, as evidenced by not only the Government's own statements but from our own research and limited investigation here on KF, was involved in some radical leftist cell. How deep does it go? How many are like that out there? The Government doesn't need more laws, or more surveillance, to crack down on that specifically. The anti-terror laws already exist. Just because Antifa is a loose branding doesn't stop the terror legislation from activating because that's how we got all of those disparate Islamic terror groups in one swoop because they all subscribed one way or another to the al-Qaeda branding. To focus on the insane freaks making disgusting comments on Twitter and Tiktok is the wrong move because at the end of the day, the actual issue is that there are lunatic leftists who are organizing terror cells and the Government, which has the actual ability given to it under post-9/11 statutes to crack down on it, is being indecisive and can't get their messaging clearer.
 
As fun and exciting as it is to LARP here with graphic descriptions of a military scale operation against a horde of leftist Tranny faggots on Discord, and as engaging as it is for the current Administration's fringe members to froth at the mouth about doing just that, the reality of that is impossible with going into ACTUAL fascist shit undeniably. You're literally talking about arresting people for talking shit about the government at that point and it's hilarious that some of the same people who demand good ol america values and freedoms advocate for that.

You only can begin first by basically giving the Government free reign to spy on citizens, even more so than it already does. And then, you give the government a pass to begin hauling people into jail for mean things posted online like we're fucking the UK or something.

Yeah, you might bust up a couple circles of whacko blue hairs in the process, but when you start hauling people to jail or putting them against the wall because "You posted a meme showing Donald Trump getting pegged by a Transexual man while the Transexual man's speech bubble said "Death to America and the Transphobic fascists"", Suddenly people won't be so off base when they compare the Trump administration to the actual Gestapo.
I'd love to hear alternatives that aren't "I guess we'll have to accept we'll keep getting shot and we can never be in public again".

Why should WE live in fear and not them? At some point you gotta realize they won't let you live in peace because they disagree with you. How did they think it was going to end? They had no problem posting pictures with their tacticool skirts, vandalizing and gloating when they had the blessing of the government.
 
He clearly, as evidenced by not only the Government's own statements but from our own research and limited investigation here on KF, was involved in some radical leftist cell
The most I've seen is he dabbled in the DSA and Discords. 99% of these faggots just fed post and the <.001% are insane enough to do it IRL instead of in Minecraft.

I'd love to hear alternatives that aren't "I guess we'll have to accept we'll keep getting shot and we can never be in public again".

Why should WE live in fear and not them?
The same reason we have people die from Guns and that's worth protecting our 2A rights. Because freedom comes with shitty humans able to do shitty things with the tools available to them.
 
You only can begin this by basically giving the Government free reign to spy on citizens, even more so than it already does. And then, you give the government a pass to begin hauling people into jail for mean things posted online like we're fucking the UK or something.

Altho the numb-nuts here will mock this: our country has unironically become an open form of surveillance fascism. The govt creates and owns the major corporations, including Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc, etc. They are, in effect, one and the same entity and you can't even tell the difference anymore, with the networks, connections, and shared staff, where these orgs end and where the govt begins. The monitoring is nearly all-pervasive or will be soon. The media is total propaganda, from owned Youtubers and alt-media grifters to CNN and Fox to "edgy" forums like 4chan and others.

However, the nationalism is sold the the plebs for further polarization while the elite have consolidated at the top of an empire that's gone global. So they'll sell us a regionalized, chaotic, weakened America while they step up the ladder to global governance which can never be broken. Both sides are clearly working together on this.
 
The same reason we have people die from Guns and that's worth protecting our 2A rights. Because freedom comes with shitty humans able to do shitty things with the tools available to them.
To protect yourself and your loved ones, not for actively hunting down people who said something that hurt your feelings. You are literally living in the ghetto at that point where someone giving you a bad look ends up in multiple manslaughter.

Again, "I'll guess we'll keep getting shot" is unrealistic. At what point do these people become such a liability to society that it's literally better to excise them entirely from it?
 
The most I've seen is he dabbled in the DSA and Discords. 99% of these faggots just fed post and the <.001% are insane enough to do it IRL instead of in Minecraft.
Multiple people, including some associated with the boyfriend, knew about the shooting in advance, and he was in a 20-person Discord server and shared information that he was the shooter. What else did he say there? First the Government (And Discord) lied and said that they were no messages. Now there are. Even if this kid was just radicalized by this kind of shit, we've used this as pretext to crack down on Islamic terror groups. These people are a menace and a threat, and if their ideological radicalization is producing political assassins then we need to deal with it.

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I'm going to further my point here by using Bondi's own tweet which was posted about an hour ago (Archive). Does this read like someone who is willing to do what needs to be done? Someone who is aware of the threat that these leftist terror cells pose? Or does it read like someone who is indecisive, unsure, and falling back onto a script? Instead of focusing on what the real issues are, which is radical leftism and the scourge they've become to us, to our way of life, and to our country, they're focusing on the lowest hanging fruit imaginable. The Government was given the "pretext" (to be cynical, I guess) to crack down on leftist cells and NGOs, and in her first actual real "policy" statement since the shooting she's, instead of talking about the disparate Antifa organizations and their radicalism, she's talking about lunatics on Tiktok making retarded videos. They are a problem too, but I think the actual terror cells are far more of an issue.
 
It's not about locking up freakish leftists who make dances on Tiktok.
I wouldn't mind additionally doing that in several cases. Many of those people publicly stated things like "excellent, now do <public figure> next". There is no way that can be interpreted as anything but an explicit call for further assassinations. They named a specific target. Given that what they are responding to provides a direct template for such assassinations, it wouldn't be unreasonable to state that what they unambiguously convey is: I call for the assassination of <public figure> by rifle at any televised event they are present at in the future.

The legal precedent is that there have to be pretty strict criteria met for these kinds of statements about public figures to not be protected speech. Calls have to be specific, for example. I suspect many of these meet all of those criteria.

It is absurd to think that anonymously posting "I'm gonna merk sheriff Chitwood" would count as breaking a law but openly calling for assassinations in immediate response to another assassination wouldn't.
 
"Hate speech" is free speech. People are only going after people's jobs because companies have standards they follow and people are reporting them for failing to meet that (and also for people on the left being retards for using their real name on social media and posting it). What nobody thinks should be the case is somebody going to jail or being fined for posting something they don't like. The US isn't the UK.
 
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I wouldn't mind additionally doing that in several cases. Many of those people publicly stated things like "excellent, now do <public figure> next". There is no way that can be interpreted as anything but an explicit call for further assassinations. They named a specific target. Given that what they are responding to provides a direct template for such assassinations, it wouldn't be unreasonable to state that what they unambiguously convey is: I call for the assassination of <public figure> by rifle at any televised event they are present at in the future.

The legal precedent is that there have to be pretty strict criteria met for these kinds of statements about public figures to not be protected speech. Calls have to be specific, for example. I suspect many of these meet all of those criteria.

It is absurd to think that anonymously posting "I'm gonna merk sheriff Chitwood" would count as breaking a law but openly calling for assassinations in immediate response to another assassination wouldn't.

After a lot of the shit people posted, I don't see why Bondi's statement can be taken as over the top.
I'm not disputing either of this, but I am taking issue with the fact that this is the Attorney General's first statements after this assassination and the focus is not on the assassination plot itself, or the fact that radical cells are operating within this country producing assassins and ratcheting up violence and rhetoric, but rather on this sort of thing.
 
I like the idea of "no hate speech laws" and "no surveillance state"
I like the idea of a harem of big-tiddy muscle catgirls, too, but that's probably not happening anytime soon

I'll settle for crushing the libs by all available means.
 
I like the idea of "no hate speech laws" and "no surveillance state"
I like the idea of a harem of big-tiddy muscle catgirls, too, but that's probably not happening anytime soon
It's a slippery slope for sure. I have mixed feelings for sure. I don't like the term 'hate speech'. She should've just said 'illegal speech'. Things like slander, threats. The term 'hate speech' is too tainted now and can be can mean almost anything.

For instance, I do support arresting destiny now. What he is doing is flat terrorism.
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So this is the boat that Trump says was coming from Venezuela to the USA
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Towards the back we can see 2 rather large outboard motors, one is distinctly cocked upwards indicating its out of the water
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So first of all we can kinda get the sense that this is NOT a very large vessel at all, for context, here is a very modest sized ocean rated fishing boat
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While this particular model Ive shown has the largest commercially available outboard motor, the Mercury Verando 600, you can see even with them being the largest this small vessel has DOUBLE the amount of our alleged Caribbean drug runners

next we need to look at the bow of the vessel
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it would appear to be mere 1 or 2 feet above the waters line, in even MILDLY heavy seas, this vessel would be swamped within minutes

lastly is the sheer range
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As the crow flies its over 1,500 miles from the norther most part of Venezuela to the southern most point of the United States

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this boat right here simply is UNABLE to cross even a fraction of that distance, let alone on the open ocean.
i think the plan of action is to ship the drugs to a carribean country from which the drugs will get smuggled into the US. only corroborating evidence is a high ranking veneco official whining about the smuggler action being taken down.
 
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