US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Justsomecicada]

Social Security or Medicaid when we are old.

(we aren’t)

Stop coping man we will never get it there is literally zero chance of it

 

[Mister Fister]

Can I say, you're all faggots?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Fuck off. If people want to tag me I'm happy to hear what they have to say. If you don't like it, block me.

I am tagging you because I have something to say.


Hello.

 

[StudMccool]

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So in the wake of our latest most blatant example of "Justice dosent exist anymore" Diddy was acquitted on all the major charges and only found guilty of prostitution, I think its fitting to remind people of the following

The united states has the LARGEST prison POPULATION in the whole world, not incineration rate, not per capita, just sheer fucking volume.
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China has 4 times our population and we have more prisoners than them but we cant convict the diddler

Just wanted to share one other cute fact somewhat related to this

Since 2010 the Russian government has had roughly 30,000 investigations in relation to social media posts by Russian citizens with 1,200 resulting in some kind of criminal case equaling roughly 80 incidents a year. This is the "barbaric, backwards, totalitarian" Russian bear, lets see how they compare to a "civilized, modern, western" country?

30 people a day

30 PEOPLE A DAY

30 PEOPLE A DAY

Source

This is what they want for us, Because the UK isent a real country it dosent have a written constitution so they can be treated HOWEVER the current ruling party feels, this is no exaggeration, the British man or woman has 0 and I mean 0 protections against government abuse of power or even actively working AGAINST the peoples goals or needs.

This shit is why ill ruin perfectly normal conversations with my spastic and unflinching thoughts on free speech WHENEVER someone tries to police someone else's speech its not about if I agree with them or not its how vital those beautiful 10 rights the founding fathers had the foresight to gift us and its our sacred duty to steward those same rights for all future generations.

I remember more than once getting into HEATED and I mean HEATED conversations with friends and family when Oct 7th happened and beacuse I have a broad range of people in my life I know and care for lots of people of all different life philosophys and opinions including those "blessed" with just a little more empathy than logic that had ALOT of things to say about the Israeli response and I was in the unenviable position of vehemently disagreeing with them but having to run defense for them as they were triggering the other side so bad that they were calling for Palestine supporters to be silenced, deported, the whole 9 yards. But hey thats the cost of having morals and values and being willing to stand up for them, you dont get the easy or fun battles, its alot of turning the other cheek and being the bigger man but Ill be honest, ive always ALWAYS found some level of cosmic "reward" for such efforts

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

How many times have you jackwagons tagged HHH in here

Not nearly enough times.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

My pet theory as to why this is occurring is that younger millenials in sociology departments are moving it backwards to include more and more of them in the gen z category lmao.

I always use the 9/11-Trump cutoff. You are a zoomer if you didn't experience 9/11, but did experience a time pre-Trump.
The 95'ers definitely remember 9/11, so are either millenial or "zillenial" and the 2k12'ers are just on the cusp of gen alpha.

 

[Collections Agent]

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan get the fuck in here, someone far less amusing is stealing your schtick.

Gee I wonder why the guy who people only ping when they are trying to piss him off isn't willing to have good faith and open minded discussions with us?

 

[Alcoholism]

You're a zoomer if you've never heard a dial up modem.

 

[Absolutego]

Then how come previous generations before Baby Boomers never thought to name themselves? Pretentious asses. As if any demographic group acts as a monolith. It's only a tool for the intellectually lazy.

I clearly walked into the middle of something I'm missing context on. Baby Boomers didn't name themselves, academics older than them did because the postwar baby boom, mass media, and prosperity brought about a markedly different generation than what had been the norm before. And since academia was growing large/widespread enough to study that particular phenomenon, they applied it retroactively to other generations. If a generation was likely to name themselves, it was probably the Greatest Generation, tbh, though I'm just guessing based off of when studying generation theory started appealing to historians.

It's not, and was never meant to be, a prescriptive monolithic summation of an entire group, it's an aggregate descriptor. What age you were at experiencing past historical events shapes, in aggregate, how the people respond to future events. I don't see that as surprising. How much of outrage against a prospective war with Iran in this thread derived from people ITT who had grown up watching forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan end with nothing but death/destruction? Certainly a lot. And their perspective would be different from someone who was of military age during the Gulf War. And theirs would be different from those who grew up during Vietnam. That's how people process current events, leveraging it against how past experience effected their outlook.

 

[Mister Fister]

Just a random philosophy thought here, the Civil Rights Act seems like the biggest Faustian bargain, you get one generation, maybe 2 that will fawn over you and get all sorts of unearned bennies at the cost of complete ruin after this generation passes.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Brother there 840 billionaires in the US and 1.2 million illegals on Medicaid. If those dudes get a bigger piece of the cuts I really don't care. We fix this now or we aren't getting Social Security or Medicaid when we are old.

Illegals are ineligible for medicaid. I know you're a gullible simpleton who believes whatever Fox News tells him like a good little NPC, but it's really not the case.

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/issue-brief/5-key-facts-about-immigrants-and-medicaid/

Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid or CHIP, and only some lawfully present immigrants qualify subject to eligibility restrictions.

Again, I know you aren't very bright so thus you're more gullible, but it's the billionaires making you poor and raiding SS/Medicaid, not the illegals.

God fucking damn it.

Look he s your daddy too you went up and shilled for him at the GOP convention!

Trumpamania running wild brother!!

That was the imposter hired by that slanderous troll Ted Dibiase, brother. He was trying to make the Hulkster look mentally handicapped

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Gee I wonder why the guy who people only ping when they are trying to piss him off isn't willing to have good faith and open minded discussions with us?

You are Mossad. Fuck you.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

From the past few weeks I've seen a lot of concern trolling over Medicaid more so since that bitch poop touched it but the increase of ICE funding to turbocharge deportations will help alleviate the problem of illegals on all of our welfare nigger programs . All the BS done to fuck with or attempt to fuck with the BBB is perfect ammo to primary all those faggots come the midterms.

Why do so many of those read like a Fatpacks post?

 

[>IMPLYING]

If I really wanted to, and didn't mind spending an afternoon or two trying to find out how to access sites that would have the data, I could find some stupid sociology paper explaining exactly what I'm talking about. It took me minutes to find an old unedited article showing that the date had already leaped back 5 years to 1984-2000 by 2007.

The entire purpose of the term 'millenial', again as I was originally told back in the late 90's, was because that was the 'new generation' that was around for the turning of the millenium.

I think it's just changing times. Like Generation Alpha wasn't a term I heard personally until after 2020 even though the term had been coined as far back as 2008.
Why We Named Them Generation Alpha

When I was a teenager I also thought "millennial" included me too because I grew up in the new millennium, but then the "zoomer"/"Generation Z" term started getting used in the middle of the Trump term (probably because now many of them were becoming old enough to vote) and that was that.

The generation demarcations are consistent enough in recent times, but older generations are inconsistently broad, at least according to this graph.
X = 15 year period
Y = 15 year period
Z = 15 year period
BBoomers = 18 year period
Silent Generation = 17 year period
Greatest Generation = 26 year period
Lost Generation = 17 year period

I think because this is a more recent invention with a wide variety of interpretations, the year and range can differ by inventor. The people who game up with the whole idea of "generations" to begin with - Strauss & Howe - they had it so generations were born every 23 years. They put the start point of Millennials as being 1982 and the end point being 2005, and gen Z as 2006 to 2029.

 

[nigel p poppycock]

I'm ready for the day when Thomas's opinion consists of four letters: FAFO.

Because it bears repeating--the Dems have been hollering about Repubs taking away Social Security and Medicaid since I was a kid back in the Stone Age, while never acknowledging its their constant wasteful spending policies and current illegal alien love that jeopardizes the system.

Funny, that.

 

[Absolutego]

Illegals are ineligible for medicaid. I know you're a gullible simpleton who believes whatever Fox News tells him like a good little NPC, but it's really not the case.

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/issue-brief/5-key-facts-about-immigrants-and-medicaid/

Again, I know you aren't very bright so thus you're more gullible, but it's the billionaires making you poor and raiding SS/Medicaid, not the illegals.


That was the imposter hired by that slanderous troll Ted Dibiase, brother. He was trying to make the Hulkster look mentally handicapped

Medicaid funds are released for otherwise unauthorized immigrants (aka illegal immigrants) for emergency procedures, and many states have pushed that definition by having illegal immigrants swamp emergency rooms for all care, emergency or routine: https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-...-federal-medicaid-funding-health-care-illegal

Under federal law, federal Medicaid funding is generally only available for emergency medical services for noncitizens with unsatisfactory immigration status who would otherwise be Medicaid-eligible, but some states have pushed the boundaries, putting taxpayers on the hook for benefits that are not allowed.

This often gets presented by media as if somehow illegals got themselves a medicaid card, but when you draw into the sources for any of those pieces (when provided), it's programs like that they're referring to.

 

[Soulless4510]

Just a random philosophy thought here, the Civil Rights Act seems like the biggest Faustian bargain, you get one generation, maybe 2 that will fawn over you and get all sorts of unearned bennies at the cost of complete ruin after this generation passes.

You do realize white women benefited from the civil rights act mostly

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I clearly walked into the middle of something I'm missing context on. Baby Boomers didn't name themselves, academics older than them did because the postwar baby boom, mass media, and prosperity brought about a markedly different generation than what had been the norm before. And since academia was growing large/widespread enough to study that particular phenomenon, they applied it retroactively to other generations. If a generation was likely to name themselves, it was probably the Greatest Generation, tbh, though I'm just guessing based off of when studying generation theory started appealing to historians.

It's not, and was never meant to be, a prescriptive monolithic summation of an entire group, it's an aggregate descriptor. What age you were at experiencing past historical events shapes, in aggregate, how the people respond to future events. I don't see that as surprising. How much of outrage against a prospective war with Iran in this thread derived from people ITT who had grown up watching forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan end with nothing but death/destruction? Certainly a lot. And their perspective would be different from someone who was of military age during the Gulf War. And theirs would be different from those who grew up during Vietnam. That's how people process current events, leveraging it against how past experience effected their outlook.

I hijacked the convo with a rant. Attaching labels to groups has always been a pet peeve.

Also, the term "baby boomer" was first used in 1963 by Leslie Nason, academia's OG girlboss. Pretentious asses.

So brave.

 

[The Ugly One]

Brother there 840 billionaires in the US and 1.2 million illegals on Medicaid. If those dudes get a bigger piece of the cuts I really don't care. We fix this now or we aren't getting Social Security or Medicaid when we are old.

The libtard canard about how tax cuts are bad because people who don't pay taxes don't benefit is the decades-old busted rhetoric that hasn't won them a single election in history.

 

[pwnest injun]

Just a random philosophy thought here, the Civil Rights Act seems like the biggest Faustian bargain, you get one generation, maybe 2 that will fawn over you and get all sorts of unearned bennies at the cost of complete ruin after this generation passes.

So what you're saying is that I can have a nickel now, or a dollar in 5 minutes?

I wonder which, I, a nigger, might choose...