US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Rudolf's Friend]

I swear people have the memory of a goldfish sometimes and easily forget that we've been fearmongered that we're totally going to war before. I don't know how that shit manages to get people afraid every time.

 

[Bindo]

This nigga forgets the intertnet made him win 2 times in a row. Barron literally made him go to podcasts where most of his type of support among younger people would be around. Memes in both 2016 and 2024 helped him win. He is just an old-timey boomer with that TV comment

It really feels like he's being dog-walked by the GOPe again. We'll get the votes for the BBB, promise!! We just need amnesty for Big Ag and the entire hospitality industry, bombing and an invasion of Iran. Cuts? No, no, no, we'll get those in the next bill, promise!

The seeming obliviousness of Trump world as to exactly how much of their electoral success is owed to anons and "internet people" is unreal. During the first term I though the behavior was just pretty standard credit taking on the part of Parscale and Kushner. Hey, they were running the campaign, they won, they get to take credit. They don't want to share with r/The_Donald and a bunch of shitposters doing it for free on Twitter, I get it. Hurts the billing rate.

But as they headed into the 2020 campaign, it became increasingly clear that Parscale seriously thought that 2016 was won by his brilliant and unique strategy of buying Facebook ads. Adds that he couldn't even verify were actually being served... Not that Faceberg would ever lie about such a thing, while spending 400 mil to steal AZ, PA, WI and GA...

The actual margin on 2016 was like 70k votes in 3 states.

• Cernovich is annoying, he still could have moved at least 70k votes
• Milo's gay AF, between gays and gamers, he still moved at least 70k votes
• r/The_Donald had their stats fucked with by the admins, but likely had north of 1.8 milliion users by election night. They still moved at least 70k votes
• Twitter anons, insurgent Redditors, 4 and 8 chan, all of them can take credit for moving at least 70k votes

I get wanting to take credit, but being oblivious at this point after the aggressive podcast strat in 2024 and X being unmuzzled like it hasn't been since 2014 tough to excuse.

 

[harmy.kook]

I swear people have the memory of a goldfish sometimes and easily forget that we've been fearmongered that we're totally going to war before. I don't know how that shit manages to get people afraid every time.

Don't bother.

This literally just happened a couple days ago.

 

[SITHRAK!]

He wasn’t fleeing from the pepperballs

I don’t believe he’s fled from a set of balls in his life, and the spicier the better.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Didn't we just have a semi-recent instance of Trump making one inference (Illegals in hotels, farms, etcetera being safe for now) but then that just straight up not being true? Valuing words (tweets, no less) over actions can just get you worked up for no real reason.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

1) Trump backs Israel, retards freak out.

2) Russia backs USA and Israel, retards freak out even more.

3) Starmer loses VONC after 150 of his own MP's refuse to back him in upcoming vote on Disability Payments, calls an early General Election, loses badly like the faggot he is, Farage becomes PM in landslide.

4) Trump and Putin hail Farage's victory as PM and agree to cut UK a deal with stopping migrants - UK has to literally suck off Trump and Putin in agreement for USA taking UK prisoners and Russia becoming the processing centre for migrants - Papers Please just got real. Russia also agrees to give UK cheap gas again and as fuel prices fall before Winter 2025 Farage is already hailed as a hero as the cost of living is down, taxes are down, prices are down and happiness rockets.

5) Zelensky, angered by the UK's betrayal, demands Farage out - doesn't work and he eventually quits once the truth about him is exposed - people who fawned over him now hate him.

6) The EU has, at this point, been in a state of shitting itself sideways since 3) and then the big moment comes - Germany (China's bitch) GERXIT's after a referendum and joins with China and the UK, USA and Russia geopolitically. France, fearing a 'Northern Rock' of its finances also quickly FREXIT's and thus the EU can no longer be funded and collapses.

This reads as "best case scenario" political fanfiction.

 

[7/11 Coffee]

He doesn't need men on the ground. This is a air and artillery (rocket) war. We will use our big fucking Air Force (BFAF) to fuck the shit out of Iran until their isn't an Iran left

We have better Air dominance, but on the ground troops would be a nightmare. We could easily roll over the Iranians, but Iran isn't X Arab army like Saddam or even the Taliban. They are more organized and don't have the standard issues like tribal pettiness hovering over them. More on the ground troops would face harsher resistance and more casualties than Iraq, and supposedly (idk how true this is) a good amount of our personnel aren't anywhere close to combat readiness, especially Infantry. Geopolitically, it would also be a nightmare and would tip the power scale away from America. Israel will have tons of benefits, such as being the main power in the region but at the cost of America ruining multiple different advantages. Iraq and Afghanistan changed most American minds about that region and war in general

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Mark Levin is dancing on Chatsworth Qatarlson's grave.

Ver archivo adjunto 7514151

Trump demands his jewjew cum.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Meh, the only egg on our face is that we should've seen this coming and it would be unavoidable. There was a narrative running around years ago about the Deep State starting this and pinning a war with Iran on Trump to impeach him. Maybe it wasn't entirely unavoidable. Iran isn't buying the US isn't involved narrative. War is pretty much inevitable. The next question is how far does this escalate? Because I don't see the media letting this be a few weeks war that ends in a few missile exchanges. I see this being a dragged out conflict and China getting involved probably isn't off the table.

The Thorn in Trump's side has always been people simply not listening to him in terms of these treaties and deals. Nobody wants to hear it. So I guess the narrative now is "Kill the Ayatollah?" We're here, so we might as well.

So you're blaming the "Deep State" (remember, Republicans run all 3 branches of government) for Trump tweeting about bombing Tehran? Come on, man. You're better than this. It's okay to admit that Trump shouldn't drag us into Israel's war and you'd be against it

 

[indomitable snowman]

California lawmakers move to ban law enforcement from covering their faces

"It undermines community safety."

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Anti science covid denying bigots the lot of them.

 

[The Big A]

Didn't we just have a semi-recent instance of Trump making one inference (Illegals in hotels, farms, etcetera being safe for now) but then that just straight up not being true? Valuing words (tweets, no less) over actions can just get you worked up for no real reason.

Sure, but the reality of Iran is as follows:

-Israel can pound Iran into the sand, take out air defenses, and eventually secure air supremacy, but they simply do not have the ordinance to actually take out Iran's nuclear program, most of which is stored in deep underground bunkers

- The US, in theory, does have this capacity, but Trump at least knows that any loss of American life would be utterly catastrophic politically, making a ground invasion of Iran a non-option.

This points to the current IAF operation being a massive SEAD/DEAD (Suppression/Destruction of Enemy Air Defense) to pave way for US bombers to cruise on in with zero risk of losses.

 

[StudMccool]

Hypothetical but if we all just agreed to pretend like Iran and Israel dident exist and just give them the geopolitical equivalent of the silent treatment would ANYONES lifes change?

Not trying to take a stance but just illustrate how far removed we are from our own issues even DISCUSSING this, I hit a pothole yesterday and saw a homeless person who cares 2 people in a desert halfway around the world cant agree on the price of bread if our house isent in order?

 

[johnny johnny yes papa]

I wonder, if the US draft is reinstated someday how many men will troon out so they can't be drafted?

 

[WelperHelper99]

We have better Air dominance, but on the ground troops would be a nightmare. We could easily roll over the Iranians, but Iran isn't X Arab army like Saddam or even the Taliban. They are more organized and don't have the standard issues like tribal pettiness hovering over them. More on the ground troops would face harsher resistance and more casualties than Iraq, and supposedly (idk how true this is) a good amount of our personnel aren't anywhere close to combat readiness, especially Infantry. Geopolitically, it would also be a nightmare and would tip the power scale away from America. Israel will have tons of benefits, such as being the main power in the region but at the cost of America ruining multiple different advantages. Iraq and Afghanistan changed most American minds about that region and war in general

They have old kit and half their command structure is fucking dead. They would be smoked in a ground engagement. Again, air power will do fine.

 

[Necrosan]

I wonder, if the US draft is reinstated someday how many men will troon out so they can't be drafted?

After witnessing how fucking depressing and somber the drone war footage from Russia and Ukraine was, I'm pretty sure most people don't want anything to do with any conflict whatsoever.

I would rather die in my house than in some shithole thousands of miles away, personally.

 

[Endless Torment]

I wonder, if the US draft is reinstated someday how many men will troon out so they can't be drafted?

If a draft was reinstated they would remove the trans ban regardless of whoever is in power because the world would be a living nightmare in any scenario a draft would be needed.

 

[Oulun]

I wonder, if the US draft is reinstated someday how many men will troon out so they can't be drafted?

This is not a new question.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Didn't we just have a semi-recent instance of Trump making one inference (Illegals in hotels, farms, etcetera being safe for now) but then that just straight up not being true? Valuing words (tweets, no less) over actions can just get you worked up for no real reason.

Trump cutting his meeting with world leaders short to meet with U.S. military in the war room: "Actually we're not doing anything."

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

I swear people have the memory of a goldfish sometimes and easily forget that we've been fearmongered that we're totally going to war before. I don't know how that shit manages to get people afraid every time.

Remember at the start of 2020 and America killed that Iranian general? Don't think anything happened to avenge him after that.

 

[The Nothingness]

I used to like Levin. He has had some good points in the past but the October attack fried his fucking brain. He got yeeted off of the radio station I listened to him on awhile ago. I suspect it was the constant war mongering.

He's Jewish first and American second. What did you expect?