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Thanks free market.
Though they’ve been abusing “100 billion yuan loan” to the point so much has been built of questionable value that it’s completely fair to conclude their numbers are extremely inflated.

Recently learned majority of their high speed rail has been under capacity, and now they got a fuckload of debt from it since high speed rail is a money black hole if it fails to be economically viable.
 
It's not a weird thing at all. It's a short, punchy, visual manipulation tactic. "He's literally tariffing a bunch of penguins, what a stoooooopid dood head." It's why you keep seeing a bunch of idiots repeat it, because it's dumbed down to the point that idiots can remember, laugh at, and repeat it. It doesn't have to have anything to do with reality. It just has to be something idiots can laugh at on command.
The problem is people remember what they feel, they don't remember facts.
If you want them to fear omega Trump Hitler you can't make them laugh. It confuses their emotional programming.
Derisive condescension sure, but genuine laughter at the thought of cute little penguins paying tariffs on their little penguin goods will diminish their fear response to the idea of tariffs. Bad move.

Edit: This is the same reason encouraging the Vance edits was a bad idea. They thought they were mocking him, but instead they were making him funny and non-threatening and even worse: Relatable.
He did the right thing saying he knew about them, posting one once, then never mentioning it again. He doesn't kill the meme by keeping a death grip on it or participating in it constantly, but he affirmed the perception that he is the goofy looking guy in the edited images that make people laugh.
Leftists don't seem to understand this. You need consistent messaging and that messaging is what you make potential voters feel.
Note that whenever Trump makes fun of people (sleepy joe, crooked Hillary) it's humorous but also consistent in tone to his overall messaging of the opponent.
 
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for 3rd worlders its either be a manufacturing slave or a sex slave. if there were more factories in SEA there

corporations, just? anyone can create a corpo and c corps pay taxes twice. and there's always a practical limit regarding reinvestments like overhiring.

Let me know if you find any willing to work and not fuck around their phone all day.
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Naked shorting is not illegal. Market makers could not function without it.
Shorting is what keeps the market makers functioning, not naked shorts. Naked shorts provide no value to the market.
That lack of knowledge is why so many more people lost their ass on that GME gimmick P&D than "made millions."
Naked shorting is illegal when used to drive down the price of a stock, like what happened to GME. It has been since 2008.

"Failure to Deliver" is not per se illegal, but that's because some short trades end up costing more than you can afford to pay. You still owe the money.

Every sucker who loses on obvious pump-and-dumps blames the mythical naked shorts. Happens every single time. Promoters who do the P&D's depend on you believing it so you'll fall for the next one and the one after.

The people that lost their ass were the naked shorts. They lost billions of dollars and more than one of the hedge funds shut down completely. These are not suckers falling for a pump and dump.

Moreover, shorting has 0 to do with pump and dumps. A pump and dump is where you buy a ton of shares of a low volume stock at a low price, encourage others to buy too so the price continues to rise, and then you dump your shares at the peak. It is also illegal in the US.
 
The ability to feed ourselves is a matter of national security. If milk prices go down significantly, farms shut down and we lose the ability to be self-sufficient. That's worse than throwing some gibs to farmers.
I mean, that's a popular argument. But that also means the farming industry in it's current state isn't viable without government backing. We have the land, seeds and ferts. But the cost structures associated with those things have no reason to be managed because it's essentially free money. Vendors can charge what they can because they're government backed. They get to exist above and beyond more productive or innovative farms because the government keeps them at the top.

You can't compete with a government backed farm, even if your product/method is superior.
 
Thanks free market.
Though they’ve been abusing “100 billion yuan loan” to the point so much has been built of questionable value that it’s completely fair to conclude their numbers are extremely inflated.

Recently learned majority of their high speed rail has been under capacity, and now they got a fuckload of debt from it since high speed rail is a money black hole if it fails to be economically viable.
There are entire cities, fully built and finished, that are totally empty, just to keep the false narrative of endless growth going in China.
 
why own gold when you can own stocks, stupid poor? anyway, my physically owned gold is more stable than stocks

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When did I ever say you shouldn't own gold? I just said that the price of gold moving has the same effect on your USD value as the price of stocks moving, in either direction.
Gold is usually less volatile because there is lower liquidity
 
Recently learned majority of their high speed rail has been under capacity,
That would make since as we are entering a major market slow down.
and now they got a fuckload of debt from it since high speed rail is a money black hole if it fails to be economically viable.
If the high speed rail is working it helps all other areas of the economy. Manufacturing because the transport cost of all goods goes down. it also increases travel and helps associated businesses (hotels, food, activities).
 
"Sustainable fashion" is already a trend, just yesterday I saw a viral post on twitter that said something to the effect of "It took 5 years but I finally got all the polyester out of my closet." Buying secondhand has long been a sensible option that a lot of people take, but in addition to the usual thrift stores and hand-me-downs and clothing swaps there are more hip boutique resale chains than ever before like Second Street, Buffalo Exchange, and Crossroads. And then add to that all the basic resale apps like ThredUp, Poshmark, and Depop. And on top of that add that secondhand luxury or otherwise high quality clothing is more accessible than ever, so people are using apps like Vestiaire and The RealReal to buy high quality things secondhand that they will use for decades.

I suspect we'll see the same across a variety of goods. If I can't get a new, cheap melamine cabinet, I'm more likely to look for a secondhand wooden cabinet instead. Economists treat durable goods as being bad for GDP, since they don't create as much "investment spending." According to economists, racing at breakneck speed on a treadmill to keep all your disposable crap from all failing at once is what a good economy is all about.

If the high speed rail is working it helps all other areas of the economy. Manufacturing because the transport cost of all goods goes down. it also increases travel and helps associated businesses (hotels, food, activities).

High speed rail is more expensive to operate than normal speed rail. Box cars and tankers don't really care about having to ride a train for 25 hours with no bathroom breaks.
 
why own gold when you can own stocks, stupid poor? anyway, my physically owned gold is more stable than stocks

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don't bother. he's only responding when people take his retard bait seriously, which is why he shut his dickholster when i stopped making fun of him.

he doesn't understand that there are values for things outside of their immediate monetary value, and cannot conceive of the idea that moving physical locations can change the value of an item based on scarcity. he is an actual retard.
 
You really think that Tim Cook is going to move Apple to some shithole country because of a higher tax rate

They tried in Ireland.
Why should I give a fuck about Wall Street?
how old were you in 2008? wall street failing leads to a cascading effect where people lose jobs, homes and lives.
The EU does not impose a 39% tariff on US goods
Available evidence shows that the real EU tariff rate is nowhere near the 39% mark
what's the EU tarrif on US poultry?
 
he doesn't understand that there are values for things outside of their immediate monetary value, and cannot conceive of the idea that moving physical locations can change the value of an item based on scarcity
The entire point of investments are their monetary value and the fact that they in theory will go up in monetary value over time. If you are buying something for any reason other than that, it isn't an investment.
Gold is an investment and has zero use for the average person beyond being a relatively stable investment.
 
An hundred years and all you could come up with is fourteen examples? Not exactly a strong argument.
The average American has declined. The average young person isn't like what they were 60-70 years ago. That doesn't mean there haven't been people complaining about "people not wanting to work" forever. Especially now, when the American worker has been getting a worse and worse deal for decades.
 
There are entire cities, fully built and finished, that are totally empty, just to keep the false narrative of endless growth going in China.
I need to re-dig it up, but some of the postulations on how many uninhabited buildings they have are fucking doom pill worthy. Well, if you are a mainlander chink that is. That’s not even bringing up the rapidly shrinking population and the depressing youth unemployment, which will probably get worse as the realization there is no great Chinese century up ahead starts to dawn on them.
 
Let me break this down really fast.
vehicle parts are on back order for months already. it would benefit you incredibly if they were produced locally in the united states, so that you could receive your parts within a week or so, rather than the literal months it takes to get ordered parts right now.
Your actually fooling yourself in believing that a company is gonna dump more money into something instead of just tacking a sales increase and just forget about it. So now that we have a backlog of orders, those parts prices are just going to increase significantly.
machinery is not a necessity for you, and again, already has evidence that production is opening back up. see above with the reference to paper mills. companies will sometimes need to pay more for a part. that is how trade works.
No, but they are a necessity for small business and farmers, but i guess that doesn't really fit into what your arguing about i guess. Also production isn't going to stopgap the price increases that we are going to see.
computer parts are absolutely not a necessity, and again, this is ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED. there are factories opening in the US, spurred on by tariffs.
I repeat the above they are a necessity if your a small business owner.
basic necessity food is NOT imported, the US actually works very hard to ensure basic necessity foods are available from within the country. go to a farmer's market, man. support local grow.
Basic necessity isn't a food import, but with the rise in farming machinery going up you bet the price on bread, milk and the like will increase unless the government starts giving out handouts like crazy.

OH wait they can't, DOGE took a fucking axe to it.
 
That would make since as we are entering a major market slow down.

If the high speed rail is working it helps all other areas of the economy. Manufacturing because the transport cost of all goods goes down. it also increases travel and helps associated businesses (hotels, food, activities).
here's some more reading on the subject. their liability on this is 5% of their entire GDP, every year, and they've been in a recession since before the rail line was completed. this trillion dollar rail line was basically useless, because it has not lived up to any of its promised economic benefits.

this is the most important part. china just doesn't care what the 'rules' say.

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this rail line will NEVER pay for itself due to costs with upkeep and maintenance, because they've built it out of debt to begin with, and they've dug trillions and trillions of yuan into debt for this.
 
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