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Yeah, it's been a pretty well known fact for a while that if the US just stopped buying Chinese goods Chinas economy would freak the fuck out.

We saw it during the first trade war with Trump's first presidency and we're seeing it now.

China is an export economy that exports cheap shit that only Americans really want.
My joke/point is that only the US has the disposable income to buy all the shit China manufactures. Europeans are all poor and Africa isn't buying fast fashion crap. Hell, in the Congo, they actually give a shit about the quality of their clothing.
China does have the ability to redirect export flows to other countries, we saw this during the first term where Chinese exporters attempted to make up for lost demand by flooding other markets, in particular Latin America and Europe, which did work for a time but the problem is when you lose the country that is responsible for 1/3 of world consumption, these are short term measures and you are put on a clock to make a deal, and more over they cause consternation and retaliatory trade measures in the countries you do dump your excess exports to due to driving local competition out as your crash the prices.
 
Just pointing out again how you see these foreign populations as a monolith who all act and think exactly the same.
Fuck off, retard. You don't know what I think. I know lots of people from mainland China and Taiwan who were quite eager to move overseas. I'm pointing out that it should be obvious even to an idiot like you that there are many such people.
 
Just pointing out again how you see these foreign populations as a monolith who all act and think exactly the same. Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us? Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
The problem is that China has been aggressively fucking with our shit since xi came into power, going out of their way to create problems

Nice, trying to slide it to us not being sensitive enough to the emotional intricacies of Taiwanese people
 
Just pointing out again how you see these foreign populations as a monolith who all act and think exactly the same. Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us? Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
@Thé au lait I summon thee: do you think Taiwan would fold and capitulate to China if they invaded, or try to hold out until the US arrives? Is SaidNoOneEver correct or a CCP shill?
 
The true Jews, as in those who truly believed in God and faithfully practiced Jewish rituals, all converted to Christianity 2000 years ago. What's left are those the Bible described as running to the high places and sacrificing to Baal and Moloch when they thought God wasn't looking. All Jews today are the descendants of the power hungry sniveling Pharisees who murdered the Son of the God they so professed to love out of jealousy and fear of losing power. If you look at modern Jews through this lens their current behaviors make much more sense.
This is about as true as saying everyone who isn't a Democrat supporter is a MAGA cultist.
Without getting to in depth, Jewish purity is veiled in silence as it always has been. Keepers of the faith wouldn't even write the holy words in Antiquity.
Normie comparison being the stupidest person in the room is usually the loudest.
 
If the West is able to relocate semiconductor manufacturing out of Taiwan we'd see exactly how much they truly care about Taiwan's "freedom and democracy." Taiwan would be forgotten about immediately.
I completely disagree. Some fabs may be built in the USA, but the R&D is staying there and alone makes Taiwan worth defending.
 
It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

 
The principle sucks, but the practicality makes it tolerable.

Every one that takes the buyout is a potential aclu lawsuit averted
Ummmm excuse me, drumpf. Becky Goldwitzstein, ACLU. We're suing on behalf of Paco del Taco who took your nazi buyout plan. The seat is economy but it should be First Class with free champagne because no human is illegal you tiny dick cheeto man 👃💅
 
Just pointing out again how you see these foreign populations as a monolith who all act and think exactly the same. Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us? Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
This argument is so played out and retarded, it died in the gas chamber with wokeness.

If you are speaking geopolitically, you are speaking in generalities, every country refers this way to every other country all the time because it just saves fucking time.

Do you want to jump around on eggshells with qualifying statements like "the majority of taiwanese citizens with a vested interest in taiwanese independence are likely to persue a course of action that and as such will likely be reflected in the decisions made by their goverment and military officials despite outliers in blah balh blah"

Or just say

"Taiwan would do this".

Assuming you're actually american, I imagine you're well aware we get treated as a monolith constantly. Fucking constantly. Just yesterday some chink official blabbed about how we're all peasants. It's how people talk.

Maybe it's just none of our business to tell billions of people thousands of miles away how they're supposed to live, preferably in service of us?
Again, fucking laughable. We're offering input and seeking deals with these countries. If they want us to mind our own business then the tariffs shouldn't bother them. Name one country that hasn't told every country how they "should" live in some way or another, i can't scroll social media for 20 seconds without seeing people tell Americans how to change gun laws, health, care, season dey food, etc.
Maybe we should work out our own problems first?
Huge wumao red flag. I imagine somebody would have outed you by now given how long you've been here but either way this is exactly the bullshit they try to pull.
 
Trump just nuked nVidia by banning their China-compliant chips from being sold to China.



They're expecting a $5.5 billion write-off from orders they now have to cancel. Stock down almost 10% after-hours since the announcement.

EDIT: The H20 chip was specifically made to sell to China for AI since their H100 line was previously barred for export.
Good, now maybe they can concentrate on what matters, keeping their actual GPU's in stock for the rest of us so they can't be scalped for 2x MSRP.
 
It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz06fig9Q-I
I watched this this morning while I was waiting for the coffee to work. Towards the end she talks about signs of internal dissent in the CCP
 
It appears that the CCP's Politburo recently issued a classified "eyes only" document which outlined China's response to the tariffs issued by the United States. From April 7th to the 9th, officials from provincial, county, and municipal levels were ordered to report to secure locations in order to view the document, which supposedly framed the imposed tariffs as part of a "total war" strategy against China (involving political, economical, military, and ideological offensives), and outlined China's counter-offensive strategy, which includes the leveraging of international discontent against the United States in order to disrupt their influence on the global economy, as well as a coordinated withdrawal of large amounts of financial assets on short notice.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz06fig9Q-I
Leveraging international discontent against the US when Trump is president is not a winning strategy.
 
@Thé au lait I summon thee: do you think Taiwan would fold and capitulate to China if they invaded, or try to hold out until the US arrives? Is SaidNoOneEver correct or a CCP shill?
Cruise missiles can hit Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzen easily from Taipei.
China's most important factories and critical infrastructure are all located on the coast.
It's a question of how much loss can China withstand here.
 
Weren't we suppose to find out if there was gold in Fort Knox or not?

What happened to that?
It was one of Trump's many political shitposts. The gold is there, but no one cares because there's not enough gold on planet Earth to back up global financial systems. There are many avenues of this topic, but there is already a thread for it.

I'm not redirecting you to be an asshole or smarmy, but because the last time this discussion got out of hand a few people got threadbanned.
Cruise missiles can hit Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzen easily from Taipei.
China's most important factories and critical infrastructure are all located on the coast.
It's a question of how much loss can China withstand here.
I was thinking military targets, not industrial targets, but fair enough.
 
I remember Musk responding to a post mentioning it, but that's about it. Gold keeps climbing, though. Someone's buying, hopefully not the chinks.
The chinks have been mining it. They might have a lot, but if they try to cash it out, the price will go down. I think the strategy is to backstop the yuan while they ARE intentionally devaluing it to facilitate continued export. Their gold is the control rod in their shitport reactor
 
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