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Should be a wild four years.

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A couple hours ago Trump announced to the world that I have been right all along. Maybe you missed it?


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This was incredibly stupid to admit right now by the way. Iran can demand even more and there's nothing we can do about it since he also said we could bomb them forever and not accomplish anything. Behold, the Art Of The Deal. Or something.
I honestly don't know why people are shitting on you for this specific Trump quote. It was absolutely retarded of the Orange Nigger to tell the whole world we're only 4 more weeks away from civilization collapsing. Pants on head level retarded.
 
You can cope about the Democrats reneging all you want, but your hero Reagan trusted them, got played for a fool, and state he once governed, California, is forever a Democrat stronghold.
Reagan was a fucking half smart faggot who married the throat goat of hollywood. Aside from busting the ATC union and some other assorted union busting did nothing but fuck us over for 50 goddamn years.


Iran contra was on his watch. And Iran Contra was the start of Jeffery epstein's little fuckery.

 
Reagan was a fucking half smart faggot who married the throat goat of hollywood. Aside from busting the ATC union and some other assorted union busting did nothing but fuck us over for 50 goddamn years.


Iran contra was on his watch. And Iran Contra was the start of Jeffery epstein's little fuckery.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ipoWvACs4Zo
Fuck Reagan, Amnesty, Stock Buybacks, Machine Gun bans,Outsourcing all started under him.
 
A couple hours ago Trump announced to the world that I have been right all along. Maybe you missed it?


oSGQ106vgCZiv7kP.mp4

This was incredibly stupid to admit right now by the way. Iran can demand even more and there's nothing we can do about it since he also said we could bomb them forever and not accomplish anything. Behold, the Art Of The Deal. Or something.
I'm not taking a 10 second out of context clip at face value.

First, some of the more consistent things Trump wants is stronger domestic industry and a stronger military. By saying our stockpiles can run out if shit hits the fan he is making a case for both of his agendas. Considering the amount of shit we dumped into Ukraine and dropped onto Iran our stockpiles and production can keep up with these smaller scale conflicts but if we need to go all out against China we might face shortages.

Second, do you think Iran feels like a winner right now? Their leadership is dead, their infrastructure is rubble, their economy is non existent, their navy is an artificial reef, and their military facilities are all destroyed. Their only saving grace is civilian shipping is skiddish so a couple pot shots at vessels is enough to scare them away from attempting to pass, and the kurds and local people didn't try to seize power for one reason or another. They are not going to beable to bargain for much as the US doesn't feel the oil squeeze as strongly as other countries.
 
With everyone about to hit the bottom of their strategic reserve there's a good chance everyone else in the world started leaning on the US.

Remember how we were a exporter? Gee, wouldn't have that have been handy right now?
 
I'm not taking a 10 second out of context clip at face value.

First, some of the more consistent things Trump wants is stronger domestic industry and a stronger military. By saying our stockpiles can run out if shit hits the fan he is making a case for both of his agendas. Considering the amount of shit we dumped into Ukraine and dropped onto Iran our stockpiles and production can keep up with these smaller scale conflicts but if we need to go all out against China we might face shortages.

Second, do you think Iran feels like a winner right now? Their leadership is dead, their infrastructure is rubble, their economy is non existent, their navy is an artificial reef, and their military facilities are all destroyed. Their only saving grace is civilian shipping is skiddish so a couple pot shots at vessels is enough to scare them away from attempting to pass, and the kurds and local people didn't try to seize power for one reason or another. They are not going to beable to bargain for much as the US doesn't feel the oil squeeze as strongly as other countries.
Iran has been the most heavily-sanctioned pariah state alongside North Korea for 50 years. They are free of that now after having defeated the United States in a war we started. On top of that they get $300 billion up-front walking-around money, $1-$2 billion per week in oil revenue that is now legitimate along with the tolls fees they will charge every ship that passes. They also control global energy prices now with the ability to shut the Strait down for whatever reason. Iran is now untouchable. We did that.

All because Trump thought he could assassinate a foreign leader with an unprovoked sneak attack on a random Saturday afternoon and it would all be over by the time the market opened Monday.

[EDIT: that's what you grandkid's history books are going to say anyway.]
 
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Until you show me quaker organizations/NGOs pushing and supporting mass migration into the west, or some quaker big kahuna legitimizing it, I'm going to doubt you.
Here you go!
Quakers in the Sanctuary Movement

Founded in 1980 by two Quakers and a Presbyterian minister from Tucson Arizona, the Sanctuary Movement provided legal, financial and material aid to these refugees, in open defiance of US Federal Law. From Arizona, the movement spread to other parts of the US and into Canada. As well as Quakers, the Sanctuary Movement involved Catholic, Presbyterian and other congregations - over five hundred of which eventually declared themselves official “sanctuaries” for refugees with no legal documents.

Quaker Jim got a sob story from a South American hitchhiker in the US illegally who got arrested for being in the US illegally and next thing you know,

Appalled, Corbett began smuggling refugees across the border himself, seeing this as a natural succession to the Underground Railroad movement through which Quakers a century earlier had helped escaping slaves. When he ran out of places to shelter people, he persuaded Presbyterian minister John Fife to open his church to them.

Eventually, Jimmy got in trouble for trafficking illegal migrants, but it was all worth it because

..the Sanctuary Movement continued to grow until, in 1990, Congress passed legislation allowing the president to grant Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to groups in need of a temporary safe haven, giving legal protection to the refugees.
 
Trying to read anything into it being signed in Versailles seems extremely strained. Is it supposed to indicate some humiliating defeat with a punitive peace treaty like post WW1 German was forced to endure? For the US? For Iran? Or is it that Iran is going to release Hitler v2 in a decade or so and super mega genocide the Jews this time?
I have no idea who is supposed to be hon-hon-hon-ing here either. Symbolism unclear.
 
You guys know that elements of the IRGC have already said that they won't abide by any deal and have rejected it, right? The only thing that's changing is that the Strait is officially "open" at the behest of China, mostly, and Iran can sell oil again unless they misbehave, then we'll just steal their tankers right out of the ocean.
 
They also control global energy prices now with the ability to shut the Strait down for whatever reason. Iran is now untouchable.
You remember how after the boys night out in Venezuela Trump handed their oil fields (one of the largest in the world) to US companies? I think Trump has made his point that our allies need to stop relying on our rivals to meet there energy needs and once those oil fields output increases we will see a shift from relying on the middle east to relying on Venezuela/US. Especially if Iran thinks they can extort ships with tolls.
 
I honestly don't know why people are shitting on you for this specific Trump quote.
@SaidNoOneEver has been demoted to SNCA Chicken Little after his conduct over the Iran war. maybe if stops posting the same Trump tweet over and over and acting like a little bitch that can change

even though @Myrtle the Turtle complained about the same things basically every single day since the war started he has enough jew subversive chutzpah to back it up with facts and link it back to Trump’s approval ratings and midterms and affordability and other topics that are relevant to every day Americans
 
The only thing that's changing is that the Strait is officially "open" at the behest of China, mostly, and Iran can sell oil again unless they misbehave, then we'll just steal their tankers right out of the ocean.
I don’t know why any American cares tbh. I’d be fine with us doing bombing runs on various Islamic shitholes for fun and light entertainment every couple months. Make it a streaming event with cool music and let the Gen Alphas remotely control some drones along the straight whenever the Iranian “navy” shows up to see who can sink the little boats with the 50 cals the fastest. Sponsored by Betterhelp.
 
You remember how after the boys night out in Venezuela Trump handed their oil fields (one of the largest in the world) to US companies?
No I don't remember that. Venezuela's national oil company PVDSA still operates their oil fields. We just keep the money they generate.
 
You guys know that elements of the IRGC have already said that they won't abide by any deal and have rejected it, right? The only thing that's changing is that the Strait is officially "open" at the behest of China, mostly, and Iran can sell oil again unless they misbehave, then we'll just steal their tankers right out of the ocean.
You know that the IRGC is just a few splinters with no central command or organization and even less left in supplies and materiel, don’t you?

That statement was nothing but sand rats trying to save face after being broken.
 
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