Unprepared Men - Excuses are just excuses.

[Oh!]

Preparation is the single most valuable skill for a man to learn. It's what separates the wheat from the chaff. Historically, the man who was prepared lived.

The motto of the Boy Scouts of America is simply, "Be Prepared".

It comes in many forms, but we can force a dichotomy for now: internal and external. I'll spare you an explanation of what I mean; if you don't understand the difference, then you are not prepared, and so your opinion is irrelevant here.

I've got some theories as to why the modern everyman is so unprepared, but I'm interested to hear yours as well. More importantly, though: What advice would you give to an unprepared man who doesn't even know where to start?

It's fun to rile up and shit on incels (extremely fun, actually), but how would you set about turning them into actual, proper men? We're going to need them unless you want your grandchildren to be named Mohammed.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Prepared for what? Being a slave?

 

[JohnnyG]

What advice would you give to an unprepared man who doesn't even know where to start?

I think being prepared, and capable of tackling a variety of challenges, is a general skillset built up from a bunch of small experiences. So helping Dad patch drywall, swap an electrical outlet, or build a workbench naturally translates to changing brakes on your car or mounting a flat screen TV so it's secure & level.

If you have experience in something that involves planning, troubleshooting, or maintenance, you have the problem solving skillset that lets you do a little homework and jump into another domain. If you don't have *any* of those experiences, make a list of mini-projects, watch some youtube videos, and do a project per weekend until you're comfortable.

Some ideas:
- locate & check all your car's fluids (oil, brake, transmission, radiator, power steering, windshield, plus tire pressure)
- identify & label the circuits in your breaker box; kill power to specific outlets & confirm with a no-contact voltage tester
- locate a stud, drill a pilot hole, and install a hanger (you can practice somewhere hidden like behind furniture)
- once you're comfortable doing that, install a level shelf (brackets + 1x12 board in the garage is an easy start)
- if you have a TV with cables hanging down, install some of those pass through/in-wall wire hiders
- get a multimeter and test your car's DC voltage when off & running, and your home's AC
- cut an old lamp cord, then use crimp/solder and heat shrink to repair it; confirm connectivity with your multimeter

 

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[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Better prepare your anus for this dick nigga

Welcome to the Farms.

 

[23iwakura23]

I think about it in terms of the old hero's journey motif. IMO, this motif arises in mythology because it is the prototype of how young men become adults.

This is the basic cycle of: The young man is forced into the "unknown world", out of the comfort zone of childhood. While "unknown world", he eventually faces an "ultimate trial". Surviving the trial, he succeeds in the quest, and is able to return to "the known world", but now with whatever supernatural benefit he received from passing the "trial" in the myth.

For a real man, crossing into the "unknown" might be something like joining the military, or being forced out at 18, going to college independently, etc. They have to cross over into the unknown and face the challenges of that new life, where the result is either success and adaptation, or classically: death, destitution, ruin, etc. After facing the "ultimate trial", the young man becomes adapted to life, and "returns" to the "known world" with the power of being a well adapted adult who knows how to effect their own will, survive, etc. I.e. by learning to survive and adapt, compelled by duress, he becomes a well adjusted adult.

And this process usually spans a young man's late teens through to their mid 20s or so.

Failed men, from my observations, tend to have this process disrupted somehow. The young man is never let to cross over into the "unknown world" and face the "trial". Instead, an overly-doting mother or grandparents subsidize an extended childhood. "Their poor baby" can't be let to face the possibility of failure and ruin, and so with any upset or difficulty, this doting figure bails the young man out, solves their problems for them, and again, subsidizes an extended childhood. By doing this, the young man never learns how to solve problems indepently, never adapts, and ultimately never learns how to be a fully integrated person.

In this, the young man misses that window in his late teens and early-mid 20s where he should, developmentally, be undergoing this "hero's journey" process that would shape him into an adult.

"Fatherlessness" is probably the closest answer to the cause of this. The most common cause for this disruption is an overly-doting woman being permitted to disrupt the process of the young man developing through hardship. However, not all single women necessarily do this, and I do know successful men from single-mother households. It takes a specific type of overly-doting woman. From what I've seen, these sorts of women seem to be the broken-minded ones who, by some sort of trauma, develop so-called "covert incest" relations with their sons. This "covert incest" leads to the sense of being overly-doting and protective of the son, as they use the son as a means to feel better about the trauma that's bothering them. Harm to the son terrifies them like a PTSD attack, with the thought of it subconsciously reminding them of whatsoever trauma initially mind-broke them.

 

[CasketBase]

What advice would you give to an unprepared man who doesn't even know where to start?

The idea that you need to be "prepared for life" is gay cope that people indulge in to avoid actually moving forward. Nobody is ever fucking prepared. Does not preclude one from rising to whatever challenge you're facing.
I guess the advice is "stop thinking about how unprepared/fucked/depressed/poor/whatever you are and start doing shit".
It's better to make moves than to just rot, or shake in fear of the unknown.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

If you're not going to be more specific than "prepared", this thread is a completely waste of time.

I'll spare you an explanation of what I mean; if you don't understand the difference, then you are not prepared, and so your opinion is irrelevant here.

"It's your fault I can't express myself."

 

[%%%]

Some ideas:
- locate & check all your car's fluids (oil, brake, transmission, radiator, power steering, windshield, plus tire pressure)

Why would an "unprepared man" have a car in the first place? He wouldn't have the money and/or interest in driving at all.

 

[Audit]

If you're not going to be more specific than "prepared", this thread is a completely waste of time.

I'm disappointed at the lack of BP users here complaining about men. What's even the point if we don't get the usual harpies coming in to complain about the scrotes? This low quality bait won't upset anyone. 0/10 OP's dad went to get cigs.

 

[Oh!]

If you're not going to be more specific than "prepared", this thread is a completely waste of time.


"It's your fault I can't express myself."

Fair point.

By prepared I mean capable of protecting their interests, I suppose. Their livelihood, their possessions, their love interest, their life.

 

[PovertySprocket]

The soyboy is the quintessential unprepared man. Reliant on social interactions and "the science™" to form any sort of thought. They want to own nothing, live in the pod and be happy. Because it means they'll finally never have to prepare (for anything meaningful).

It's fun to rile up and shit on incels (extremely fun, actually), but how would you set about turning them into actual, proper men? We're going to need them unless you want your grandchildren to be named Mohammed.

Incels aren't usually soyboys tho, they're usually neckbeards (nerds). Polymaths who live in solitude with limited social interaction. So showers, exercise and a spoonful of confidence?

 

[souschef]

The soyboy is the quintessential unprepared man. Reliant on social interactions and "the science™" to form any sort of thought. They want to own nothing, live in the pod and be happy. Because it means they'll finally never have to prepare (for anything meaningful).

It's the lack of critical sense that it's the worst. They're obsessed with fact checking, but won't ever do proper research, just the kosher approved slop done for them

 

[Feathers]

Schools should've never gotten rid of shop. Not only is it a masculine class that teaches men how to use tools, but it helps prepare people for blue collar jobs that are required for a country to function.
So the government definitely has their role to play
You also have media teaching young men to be passive pussies if they want to attract a mate. Look at all the media that focuses on some loser getting the girl, it's unrealistic.

None of this would be an issue though if the nuclear family wasn't under attack with people destroying the very concept of manhood. Most of these useless young men are products of single mother households

 

[JohnnyG]

The idea that you need to be "prepared for life" is gay cope that people indulge in to avoid actually moving forward. Nobody is ever fucking prepared. Does not preclude one from rising to whatever challenge you're facing.

You can do small and medium things that prepare you for large ones. The first time I removed my car's exhaust and driveshaft, it was a little daunting, but the smaller jobs I'd done like oil changes and rotating tires helped prepare me.

The first time I replaced an outlet or replaced an overhead light fixture, I was more prepared because of small, low voltage electrical projects. Etc.

Schools should've never gotten rid of shop. Not only is it a masculine class that teaches men how to use tools, but it helps prepare people for blue collar jobs that are required for a country to function.

Agree, except that I think it's good for more than just 1:1 prep for a trade. Working with your hands, on systems with rules (electrical, mechanical, woodworking, etc), where you have to troubleshoot and adapt, teaches translatable skills. I have a white collar job, and feel much more confident tackling complex intangible systems due to my experience with tangible ones.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

I'm Prepared to break into OPs house and vandalize his anus.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Preparation is the single most valuable skill for a man to learn. It's what separates the wheat from the chaff. Historically, the man who was prepared lived.

The motto of the Boy Scouts of America is simply, "Be Prepared".

It comes in many forms, but we can force a dichotomy for now: internal and external. I'll spare you an explanation of what I mean; if you don't understand the difference, then you are not prepared, and so your opinion is irrelevant here.

I've got some theories as to why the modern everyman is so unprepared, but I'm interested to hear yours as well.

Fair point.

By prepared I mean capable of protecting their interests, I suppose. Their livelihood, their possessions, their love interest, their life.

Easy answer, people are weak these days.

Real answer, it just isn't valued in current society, arguably even pushed against to the point where those who prepare are actively stranglehold taking care of the hoards who don't prepare. The West has numerous systems in place to keep the dredges afloat. Entire families, entire communities, are living off welfare systems with no ambition to ever leave it. The government rewards piss poor behavior by extracting resources from the "prepared" and handing it down to their pets. Social Security alone functions off the idea that a majority of the populace is too stupid to save money for retirement. Now SS has grown into one of the biggest extractors. Young people looking to prepare now have Boomer tax as they fund the elderly, who, even when given the greatest economy, still couldn't functionally save a dollar.

In terms of livelihood, the current system favors lowest-common-denominator. Companies actively reject candidates deemed as too skilled or "prepared" because they view them as costing more. This creates an effect where the competent are now discouraged from being so, leading to more "unpreparedness." In a way, being stupid is now the way to prepare yourself if you want to excel.

"Fatherlessness" is probably the closest answer to the cause of this.

While a factor, I think it is more that the "Hero's Journey" you bring up is not something applicable in the modern world, and we really have no replacement for it.

We aren't in the unexplored world anymore where you survive based on adapting to the strange new land mass. No one is conquering lands and there hasn't been some real external force to fight since WW2. Most military operations since have either been pointless to devastating affairs that don't positively impact you or your people or are humanitarian efforts where you are trapped trying to force the 3rd world to be civilized. Very few have any real work like capturing Maduro.

For decades prior, the path to manhood in the industrial revolution was getting a job and moving out. That is now hindered by the above. We have Boomers buying up property in mass and charging extra alongside a government also buying up property and further enabling Boomers with gibs. We have a job market that disincentivizes engaging with it as they want to hire anyone but a competent American. It is a mess without a clear (non-violent) out, especially with voting power majority relegated to the people who are unaffected and/or benefit from up charging and extractions.

What advice would you give to an unprepared man who doesn't even know where to start?

Let's end this on a hopeful note. Everything I said above is just a phase and one we are seemingly heading out of. The 2020s are going to be a struggle, so the real suggestion is to remain working hard and building yourself up as there will be a time when high-skilled individuals will be valued again. Boomers are dying out, the old guard keeping these flailing companies afloat are leaving, and acknowledgements have been made regarding how hellish the current situation is. Really, just listen to @JohnnyG and do what you can to build basic skills as all will be necessary in an economic rebuild.

 

[funwithshemales69]

Be Prepared

On a more serious note, I can tell from experience its something which comes from experience and a bit of it is genetic. If your parents are disorganized fucking losers, you probably will be as well, unfortunately. Ive seen a dime a dozen people who are just hedonistic fucks who cannot comprehend the world in 1 day time or 2 days time and hence so unprepared that they focus on cooming in the now. Preparedness is a process of thinking about 5 or more things at once and executing shit one after the other, you have to cover the primaries (food, water, electricity, clothes, housing, income) then the secondaries (the internet, cleanliness, transport, hobbies etc) and then everything else comes after. You have to constantly schedule and optimize stuff cause time is not just a finite resource, its a resource which constantly expires, youre constantly running out of time so every moment you dont use for something is a moment wasted. Etc etc etc, I could be super autistic about it but the essential thing is you need to have drive for it, its something which is about making meaning out of your life, making your worthless existence worth something.

Prepared for what? Being a slave?

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As much as Nietzsche says this, I feel like his Ubermensch is the ultimate prepared man ironically, one who can deal with anything and is prepared for anything including death. The Ubermensch theory really got my life into shape after I learned about neoplanism and ubermensch theory and bits of buddhism among other things, its a really good path to integrate all of them together into one cohesive ethos for life. This quote actually reminds me of the Rabbi Landau guy whos been viral as of late, one of his quotes being "money and work in the present is the key to your freedom in the future, if youre so constantly worried about money then youre not actually free" which is basically true.

 

[Skitarii]

Hard times create smart jews, smart jews create hard times

Simple as

 

[Squanto Airi]

This comment on the Boomer Hate thread and This one on the Zoomer thread explain the unpreparedness rather well: shitty teachers and adults who'd rather gatekeep their knowledge than letting the next generations raise up and do well for themselves.