Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Diddyhammad]

Alright, the twist with the platforming is legit kino. I actually had a feeling toby was gonna pull something like this off but damn, ch 5 being half 2d platformer did give deltarune a bit of fresh air aside from the usual mix of turn based+bullet hell. Hope the platforming system is present in ch6.

Anyways. Fuck that lake scene with susie. I want to almost do a weird route playthrough JUST to [PROCEED] her.

 

[Angry Muda]

Did Toby Fox not know male ballerina outfits exist?

 

[Slumbie]

What were your selections?

I got Seth’s, Aqua's and Green's. Mostly because those three were my favorites.

Yellow Hat is probably the best of them all in hindsight. You can at least use it on Ralsei for healing. I'd probably be more hesitant to pick Aqua's if I was really thinking about it, considering how little attacking came into play this chapter. They all seem pretty good, overall. With exception of Blue's. Can't say I use Pacify much at all. But all their stats are really good, regardless.

 

[Smack Patrick]

Hope the platforming system is present in ch6.

I think it will be. I figured wall climbing was gonna be a 1 chapter gimmick but I'm glad I was wrong.

 

[TheCrackMonkey]

Did Toby Fox not know male ballerina outfits exist?

He probably does, but that would've made Blue less of a raging faggot.

 

[Diddyhammad]

I think it will be. I figured wall climbing was gonna be a 1 chapter gimmick but I'm glad I was wrong.

It does feel good to see toby learn more from each chapter mechanically. 4 was easily my favorite chapter. Though I'm not a fan of how little we are getting in terms of plot progression. It's giving me bad CH3 vibes. Except ch 5 doesn't feel like a fucking slog to playthrough aside from the last 10 mins of ch3 and the SWORD route.

Is the secret boss any difficult? I would appreciate if someone told me if the egg is easy to find.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

He probably does, but that would've made Blue less of a raging faggot.

New theory, Dark Worlds are made according to the wills of their creators, so maybe Kris just really fucking hated that Blue Flower, maybe he got scratched by a thorn or something from it so he made him gay as punishment.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I just realized that if Rudy really is the Knight then this is just Rudy fighting an anime copy of himself lmao

 

[scallion]

Is the secret boss any difficult?

Not at all

I would appreciate if someone told me if the egg is easy to find.

Depends on how much you backtrack, bit more like finding the chapter 1 egg than easily stumbled upon like 4

 

[Strangolapreti]

just fucking Noelle

You can try to tell Undyne about it at the very start, and it does nothing.
People in town most likely know Asgore is into some weird conspiracy so they'd just believe he dragged kris (and susie) into it.
Meanwhile Noelle is someone with experiences inside the dark world and very likely to listen to her girlfriend.

Both fountains were opened by Kris.

I'm not sure they were opened by the same person tbh.

What were your selections?

Picked Cyan because she was the best character, Orange in memory of her hand puppet form and seth because the alternative was the niggerfaggot, his retard lover and a self-insert hunchback.

why Raisei is such a faggot to Flowery.

Because ralsei knew flowery was full of hot air and complete shit from the start, chapter 3's second board features a golden flower cut in half as a subtle reference to the fact flowery was gonna be torn apart by the knight.
Meanwhile, ralsei himself refuses to use his fire magic in fear that something bad could happen if he let himself go loose.
Flowery doesn't catches the message that he's a fraud and yet still picks on ralsei who tries everything to avoid violence.

Except ch 5 doesn't feel like a fucking slog to playthrough

Chapter 5's dark world section is extremely fucking long compared to the previous ones, and backtracking can be frustrating at a time.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Oh look, more EVIL SUSIE/TIMELINE FUCKERY evidence (this one is buried in the fucking yurislop interactions)

Susie
* Dude, I think I did that by accident.
Noelle
* Fahaha! You did the Evil Route by ACCIDENT?
Susie
* Yeah, I like... I didn't know you could be... nice?
* So I was just killing everything and getting, like, pissed.
* Why the hell is everyone mad?
* Pretty sure I'd... do it the good way, now, though.
* Maybe.

Dragonblazers may just seem to be a game, but it's one of the retellings of the prophecy just in the form of a game.

 

[Super Guido]

I think the 2D combat sections aren't worth mentioning, you can't really die on them.

I actually managed to die on it, but that's because I notoriously suck at platformers.

ETA: Also I didn't give enough of a shit to dodge stuff.

 

[Cucktry Roads]

What were your selections?
I selected Yellow, Aqua and Seth but I was really eyeing Green's heal on defend ability.
I chose Seth over it though because longer damage invulnerability felt more powerful.

I've heard people say the best selection is Glasses for invincibility, Apron (it heals like 42 damage each defend), and boxing gloves (extremely high defense stat). Cowboy hat might be better later when it comes to healing., but this chapter, I felt like I was rarely healing since TP costs for everything was really high and you needed to save TP to end fights.

 

[Coolio55]

There's one optional conversation this chapter which absolutely leapt off the screen for me.
Specifically, if you decide to think about Susie picking out flowers for Noelle with the blue nigger...

It's blatantly poking at the fact that the two of them barely interact.
Susie remembers eating a rose outside Noelle's house but it feels like the second episode of Clerks Animated where they're making a clipshow out of the first one as a joke.

 

[Two Dollars]

What were your selections?
I selected Yellow, Aqua and Seth but I was really eyeing Green's heal on defend ability.
I chose Seth over it though because longer damage invulnerability felt more powerful.

I got yellow but still need to go back and get two more. I’m thinking Seth and Green. For Seth, does having increased i-frames mean you go longer without getting TP?

 

[Nameless One]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=V0Y72jYujrY

Based Markiplier if true.

He beat OFF 100%, helped greenlight that kino and defeated the secret boss Sugar. He knows his shit with the quirky earthbound rpg type games.

It's not true, but it's incredibly fitting.

 

[Cun75p4rkl35]

I call them popato chisps now

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

I call them popato chisps now

I also do this and nobody knows its a reference so I can get away with being cringe

 

[shasha]

I have a theory: if chapter 5 was more boring than chapter 4, it's because chapter 4 is the final boss of the original timeline, while chapter 5 is the ending. The heroes have saved the world, let's have a festival! Noelle and Kris would have a date that would end with a kiss in the lake, the credits would roll, and it would be over. But with Susie's presence in this timeline, that doesn't happen. The following chapters are about Susie prolonging the story so it doesn't end. Susie is a parallel to Asriel, fighting to the end so the story doesn't end.

 

[Super Guido]

I also do this and nobody knows its a reference so I can get away with being cringe

Even if it wasn't, I'd do the same thing. It's like the "word" 'pasghetti'.