Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[SpiderBitch]

You're right, the ghosts (Mettaton, Napstablook and the Mad Dummy, who never actually has a name in ghost form) are all neutral and referred to as "they" or "it". It changes once they fuse with a body, a process that happens when they're possessing the host object and experience raw, unfiltered emotion.

So youre saying them assuming transgenderness is actually just them doing a heccin 'male defaultism' the moment they see a character with no clear gender? Zamn

Also we can see it on the bright side: Kris the probably amab they/them genderspecial is getting cucked by two true and honest women.

 

[Super Guido]

Toby won't allow a translation he doesn't completely understand, but will allow trannies to insert their OCs and absolutely torpedo the momentum his game had. I'd rather a translation be slightly jank (maybe not TECMO Secret of the Stars level of jank) than have a bunch of faggots having a wholesome chungus moment for 5 hours.

Has anyone else mentioned that yet?


Lazy edit because I can't get Krita to cooperate on the cropping.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

Like Mad Dummy is an "it" from the beginning, right?

It's just a dummy but I'm not shocked people need a gender for everything nowadays lol

 

[A Fly on the wall]

Ev&doe I'm not a huge fan of chapter 5, I do have a few positives to give. First is the song "flower man", the second is the boss fight that accompanies it and the third is all the memes people are making of flowery's final stand even if flowery himself is an annoying faggot

 

[Exister]

Holy fuck this chapter sucked. Absolutely NO story progression of any kind, the lesbian romance is trying to have pay off despite not having any BUILD UP (maybe there could've been build up if noelle was IN THE FUCKING GAME), the festival they spent years foreshadowing was absolutely NOTHING, no more relevance than any other random cutscene. Nothing has been done with sans, Berdly, Rudy, Noelle's mom, Undyne, Mike, Friend, fucking ANYBODY. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT!

The side scrolling segments are mid and just make me wish I was playing a real sidescroller, the music is forgettable, hell even the secret boss's theme isn't noteworthy. Speaking of, WTF!?!? WHY MAD MEW MEW!?! NO BUILD UP, NO RELATION TO ANY THEMES OR CHARACTERS IN THIS CHAPTER OR IN THE ENTIRE GAME!!!! There's just a secret boss for the sake of having a secret boss. So much for "not doing the same thing over and over". Mad mew mew was my breaking point. All these fast bullet patterns and gimmick mini games for what? It hasn't earned it. I was just annoyed. Mad mew mew isnt even a flower, or anything. Just some random manga asgore had in his flower shop cuz he's gay. Literally didn't fucking matter at all. I knew this chapter would be bad as soon as Seam told me the mannequin would be good for the secret boss. Sums up deltarune's entire trajectory. You obtain some weird mannequin only Kris can use in Chapter 2, as body armor for some reason? Seemingly no defensive value, even the item description says it's useless, but looking at the game's code it helps you resist... Cat damage? What could this mean? Could this have some relevance to Friend? Perhaps foreshadowing our puppet, the mannequin we've possessed, Kris, being the only thing that can resist this evil cat creature Thing? No. It's just good against a pointless optional boss 3 chapters and 5 years later. Totally what we had in mind when making chapter 2, promise.

 

[Dorothy]

Do we actually have a profile on the trannies working with Toby?

 

[Retarded Weeb]

You obtain some weird mannequin only Kris can use in Chapter 2, as body armor for some reason? Seemingly no defensive value, even the item description says it's useless, but looking at the game's code it helps you resist... Cat damage? What could this mean? Could this have some relevance to Friend? Perhaps foreshadowing our puppet, the mannequin we've possessed, Kris, being the only thing that can resist this evil cat creature Thing? No. It's just good against a pointless optional boss 3 chapters and 5 years later. Totally what we had in mind when making chapter 2, promise.

It was originally for fighting Spamton. Tasque, Tasque Manager, and Spamton NEO all had bullets that inflict Cat/Puppet damage which the Mannequin could reduce. Though I wouldn't say it was a great option. Also, the yarn ball attack that the cat-eared Shadowguy could do in Chapter 3 also had this element.

 

[Newcomer 42]

There are Kitsune. The fox that disguises himself as objects and other enemies is absolutely one.

They're lesser ones. I expected at least one actual fox girl that's somewhat cute, funny, or at least vaguely feminine, but we can't have actual women in degeneracy month, have a trannoid catgirl instead. UT Yellow had an actual kitsune boss fight. Did Toby hate that one so much for overshadowing him that he made the cowboy uber-gay?
Hell, that segment was so annoying I didn't find all of the evidence pieces because I couldn't give a damn and wanted to get over with ASAP.

Then again, isn't the girl from the shop some sort of "girl with animal bits" one? Who's she supposed to be? I dunno if she shows up during gameplay.

Also we can see it on the bright side: Kris the probably amab they/them genderspecial is getting cucked by two true and honest women.

Then during the weird route one of said women forces Kris to commit suicide to "see the other side", literally, kek.
Even in the good route, Kris takes toxic seeds, probably in case he can't suffer any more cucking and decides to take drastic measures.
No-one seems to mind either compared to the "rape" scene from Chapter 4, probably because wokeism is a death cult so suicide is a standard end route.

Do we actually have a profile on the trannies working with Toby?

I swear someone posted these here or in another topic.

EDIT:

The way Noelle pressures you to proceed in the weird route vaguely sounds like the girl asking you to punish her harder while you're choking her, kek.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

The one problem with the Weird Route is that Noelle didn't fucking drown Susie first.
It's amazing just how much one chapter can rape so much.
Cool moments for Asgore? No! Vagueposting and kidnap time!
Cool moments for Susie? No! Cucking and delusions time!
Cool moments for Ralsei? No! Tranny and MYSTERYBOX time! (oooo who is Ralsei really??? We're 71% way done with the game and still have no fucking clue)
And it goes on.
Thank god for the Weird Route.

I cant wait for Chapter 7 to flop so Toby fucking kills himself after it turns out the "ending from his DREAMSSSSSS" is worse than the fucking Boys Finale.

 

[X Prime]

I expected at least one actual fox girl that's somewhat cute, funny

Bad choice of words considering Aqua has drawn those types.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

I enjoyed reading this thread in spite of not caring about this slop.

Honest question did you niggas really expect it to not be gay shit?
If so why?
It's obvious by who made it, how it was made and why it as made that it would turn out like this.

 

[X Prime]

Honest question did you niggas really expect it to not be gay shit?
If so why?

Delusion. No different from anyone who honestly thought Toby Fox didn't know what flower petals flying off after a scene involving heavy coercion of a girl would imply.

The guy releases this trash on Yuri Day of all days and doesn't know the word deflowering? Come on.

 

[RogozubEnjoyer]

0:11

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

You know, for all of the dogshit that is Kris getting cucked, being able to turn things around and instead cuck Susie out of her Noelle date is comparatively, extremely fucking funny. (The actual scene on the ferris wheel was already posted, I think.)
It's like Noelle would naturally love Kris but some gaynigger from outerspace is mindraping everything into being gay. Hell, even here Noelle's reaction to Susie being an attention whore is just "Haha, that's nice."

 

[smartgenius55583433157]

 

[A Fly on the wall]

And like clockwork there are troons everywhere posting ESTROGEN ESTROGEN UUUUOOOOOOGGGGHHHHH all over social media about the new secret boss. Congratulations Toby you got what you wanted.

 

[X Prime]

Every single individual I have seen give generic unabashed praise for Chapter 5 so far has been a troon or into other deviant sex shit. The rate is literally 100% so far.

It's rather impressive.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

>In Undertale, a Monster with a Human's Soul can break through the BARRIER
>Spamton wants your SOUL so that he can stand up tall, see past the clouds and look into HEAVEN
>Weird Route Noelle using the soul to break past the boundary break bullshit.
It was the ONLY way to become a Big Shot.

>YOU THINK MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick]
>IS GONNA LET YOU DRINK UP THAT [Sweet, Sweet] [Freedom Sauce]?
>WELL, YOU'RE [$!$!] RIGHT! BUT DON'T BLAME ME
Freedom.

 

[Kitty Cat Man]

some gaynigger from outerspace is mindraping everything into being gay

See, a good writer would make this a plot point about determinism and prophecy and susie effectively embracing the Main Hero role more than Kris, prophecy doesn't care who you are, it will totally fuck logic up to make itself happen. You went off-script and moped and self-sabotaged, so now everyone's acting fucking weird and you're getting cucked by a dinosaur.

 

[Strangolapreti]

FUCK.
I just realized how none of the flowers aside of Aqua matches their fight theme.
Its a 1:1 rip-off from Touhou: oriental sounding, playful and mysterious and nostalgic at the same time.
It fits perfectly a little strange, creepy girl that plays with knives, refer to herself as a human but also has an uneven number of eyes hiding under her hair.

It doesn't fit the purple, "nerdy" genderblob that's pretty much an open book.
It doesn't matches the green genderblob that can't talk and uses an apron.
It doesn't work with the fucking rat.
It clashes completely when paired with a retarded gay sheriff that's just a gay and bad knock-off woody.
And has absolutely nothing to do with traidional ballet or niggersfaggots.

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Ok seriously, how the fuck he got abducted so easily?

Every single individual I have seen give generic unabashed praise for Chapter 5 so far has been a troon or into other deviant sex shit. The rate is literally 100% so far.

It's rather impressive.

There's no grander delusion than hype and brand loyality, trannies lives in the delusion that they are real women/men, so it makes sense they'd fall for this one too.

you're getting cucked by a dinosaur

Correction, you are getting cucked by a deer, kris actually cares more about Susie, and gives 0 shits about noelle.