Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion
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I liked Green but she looks like a deltarot character
Kitty Cat Man
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UT was fine because it was like you, the human(or soul, whatever) are bringing game logic into some quirky retard monster world. Only some of the monsters were even remotely aware of the vidya-logic at play.
I always imagined it was just something humans can do, and you are just a complete shitter for going down there and nuking everyone with it. As I said earlier, I'm a tourist and haven't consumed all the deeplore ARG shit so I could be massively off base.
Anyway, DR seems like everyone is at least kind of aware of the vidya logic, talking about how they can "act" and with monsters giving little tutorials about how battles work. Flowery even pulls the knight into a battle in the latest chapter, these are just the rules everyone in this world operates on and you're a straight-up shitter for lootfarming and killing them if you do weird route. It comes off as weird when they talk about perceiving the UI and then susie just goes "yeah, it's there alright"
I hope it isn't leading up to some hamfisted bullshit "DUDE... we're in a VIDEO GAME??" bullshit. I hope the big twist is that you start using vidya-logic in the IRL segments, but that seems like it might be segregated to weird route
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To make it worse, the christmas reindeer is your childhood friend, who you very clearly used to have a crush on, too (where all the 'mean' things talked about that Kris did in the past to her are actually recontextualised to be him actually trying to be nice in his autistic way (ie, shaking the ferris wheel carriage when she was riding it with him as kids was to distract her from wanting to cry because they'd lost the festival king and queen thing, that they voted each other for, and Kris will do everything in his power to try to protect Noelle, including trying to undo your actions in ch.2 in ch. 3 and 4, and trying to sleep through ALL of ch. 5 in this weird route.).
It's a brand new feeling.
Double cucked.
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It's more like it was always set up for yurislop but then Toby - completely by accident? - made a better romance between two characters who weren't "supposed to be" together.
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- 24 de Mar, 2019
It shall be engraved upon your SOUL.
(I am surprised a line like that wasn't dropped, was it slightly after Toby's time?)
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- 6 de Jun, 2023
I have another theory:
Considering that completing the weird route in ch5 ends up permanently marking your normal route save, that the former will only continue in ch7, and that the lake/underground clearly having some significance to the dark world shit. What if it results in some timeline fuckery where the heroes from the normal route end up entering the final dark world through the shelter entrance, while Kris and Noelle from the weird route also enter it at the same time via drowning themselves in the lake?
I'd laugh my ass off if WR-Noelle ends up torching the Suselle shit when she realizes that it's the metaphorical glass she's trying to break out off.*
*I'm sorry it's still hard for me to believe that Toby shat the bed so hard writing-wise solely for the sake of fulfilling a fetish.
Considering that completing the weird route in ch5 ends up permanently marking your normal route save, that the former will only continue in ch7, and that the lake/underground clearly having some significance to the dark world shit. What if it results in some timeline fuckery where the heroes from the normal route end up entering the final dark world through the shelter entrance, while Kris and Noelle from the weird route also enter it at the same time via drowning themselves in the lake?
I'd laugh my ass off if WR-Noelle ends up torching the Suselle shit when she realizes that it's the metaphorical glass she's trying to break out off.*
*I'm sorry it's still hard for me to believe that Toby shat the bed so hard writing-wise solely for the sake of fulfilling a fetish.
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Just finished Chapter 5 and I have to say it's pure coal. It doesn't feel like it was made by the same hands that made the first four chapters to be honest. The writing is insufferable, the plot barely inches forward (the only real progression this chapter is getting the bunker codes) and the faggotry is overwhelming far beyond my usual tolerance levels for this game. I was hoping we would get some important lore reveals but I feel like we're just being strung along until chapter 6.
My God was the secret boss insufferable. Had to put the game on mute the music was so obnoxious. Having an anime dating sim style boss is certainly a choice. Doing it hitless was about as difficult as the Roaring Knight. The tunnel bullet pattern was very cool however, the only good part of the boss.
The weird route was fantastic, too bad it was less than 10 minutes long.
My God was the secret boss insufferable. Had to put the game on mute the music was so obnoxious. Having an anime dating sim style boss is certainly a choice. Doing it hitless was about as difficult as the Roaring Knight. The tunnel bullet pattern was very cool however, the only good part of the boss.
The weird route was fantastic, too bad it was less than 10 minutes long.
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Maybe the series will be saved and go the 40k route of him expunging all the hedonistic xenos.
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It actually feels like there's more to it than that, the story is very much aware that Kris loves Susie, and it doesn't shy away from admitting it while he is forced to watch.
The stranger thing is that he also clearly once had a crush on Noelle, too. But I get the feeling that Dess disappearing for whatever reason managed to screw that up totally, even if he clearly still cares about her. (I'm also pretty sure that nigga Asriel is also dead and Toriel is just stringing Kris along because she doesn't know how to break the news, the fuck you mean he's at 'college'? Oh, and he couldn't make it back for the festival, either? Sure. It's pretty much established that the universe doesn't exist outside of the confines of Hometown thanks to Ch.5 WR)
Weirdly enough, it's not impossible that both Kris and Noelle probably see Dess in Susie in some way.
Basically, fuck you Robert Fox why do you want to cuck Kris so bad.
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I generally have a low tolerance for faggotry but can usually look the other way for Toby’s work, but this chapter went way too far. I’ve written up most of a review which I’ll post once I actually finish everything. It’s too bad I’ve gotten mostly spoiled on the weird route in this thread, it would’ve been interesting to go into it blind. But I had to read ahead to see if the Suselle shit gets any better. Turns out it gets even worse.
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To add more insult to injury. Apparently after the secret boss fight against Mad Mew Mew, you can have a "chance" to get a date with her. But Ralsei and even Susie ruins any chance you can have with her, completely unprovoked.
With the cherry on top, Ralsei delivering one of the most scathing lines in the game to Kris for no reason.
So not only you get forcefully treated as a third wheel for Noelle and Susie in Chapter 5, but Susie and Ralsei go out of their way to ruin probably the only date you can have in the game that is not Susie. Textbook example of having the cake and eating it too. It really is just a constant humilliation ritual for Kris.
At this point, with friends like these, no wonder Kris has Carol as an ally.
With the cherry on top, Ralsei delivering one of the most scathing lines in the game to Kris for no reason.
So not only you get forcefully treated as a third wheel for Noelle and Susie in Chapter 5, but Susie and Ralsei go out of their way to ruin probably the only date you can have in the game that is not Susie. Textbook example of having the cake and eating it too. It really is just a constant humilliation ritual for Kris.
At this point, with friends like these, no wonder Kris has Carol as an ally.
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- 25 de Nov, 2024
and I'm not supposed to help Kris bring about the end of the world because...?
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- 29 de Abr, 2026
Anyone know some other media that teaches you what not to do in creative work?
So far, I have Deltarune Chapter 5, Dustborn, Steven Universe, The Last of Us 2, YIIK, Assassin's Creed: Shadows, and Dragon Age: Veilguard, but those are mostly examples of shitty progressive writing. I'd also like some works that are plainly terrible.
Just bring the Roaring already bro wilted rose emoji
So far, I have Deltarune Chapter 5, Dustborn, Steven Universe, The Last of Us 2, YIIK, Assassin's Creed: Shadows, and Dragon Age: Veilguard, but those are mostly examples of shitty progressive writing. I'd also like some works that are plainly terrible.
Just bring the Roaring already bro wilted rose emoji
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To be fair, I think Mad Dummy is an adult in the light world, so it'd be weird, even if Mew Mew herself is a darkner.
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soooooooooo, why Japan?
I get there anime characters and ninjas and stuff....but why?
Has Asgore ever said once that he liked anime? Even in the chapter itself, he never really makes any comments about the place
I get there anime characters and ninjas and stuff....but why?
Has Asgore ever said once that he liked anime? Even in the chapter itself, he never really makes any comments about the place
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- 29 de Abr, 2026
It was allegedly foreshadowed by Alphys bringing anime to Asgore, but the real reason is because Toby became too self-indulgent for his own good. Couldn't even have that in a satisfying way, because whatever herd of fuckin' ugly trannies he has on board clearly ruined all of the appeal.
Speaking of which, heard that he had to hire a manager just to get them to do anything, does anyone have the receipts?
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- 9 de Ene, 2024
Bro. Brvh.... Kris just guides the story along, why is he catching strays so much now?
Digital Circus is a masterclass on wasting the viewer's time and executing story and character payoffs in the most disappointing/unsatisfying ways possible. Bonus points to Mass Effect Andromeda for taking a neat setting and boiling out everything interesting, also wasting the potential of how weird you could get when you're visiting a completely new galaxy.