Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[You Can't Un'Ape The Doe]

Why the sudden skill check in the chapter that's inbetween the other chapters that have an egg and crystal?

The whole sequence of events for the eggs is definitely something done to ensure that everyone going after the eggs is doing so very intentionally, but yeah like you said it's very strange how it changes the trend of eggs. If the egg thing is meant to be exclusionary, why only in chapter 3?

The knight thing is weird too but I'm not sure if thats intentionally weird or just circumstantial. Like the knight is a required encounter, and Gerson in chapter 4 is probably the easiest secret boss to encounter and also necessary for the story to work, so is there some thematic tie there too or not really? What about Mew Mew being out of nowhere? is there some hidden meaning or something that ties it all together, or is it just the natural variation in the secret bosses?

You already said it. The Chosen One has to be damaged.

Berdly is not the chosen one, he is something much greater


Noelle is the chosen one. The rapist and the rapee in one. Only she can save the West (with the aid of Berdly)

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

 

[Sunset Ethernia]

The thorn ring is an item that allows you to become more in touch with your inner desires, even the ugly ones you never wanted to accept.

it is probably because of the trance down effect. it awakens the user from npc like trance state, allowing you to actually perceive your surroundings and break off the set path. the user becomes the true version of themselves. i have no idea what it could imply for the twistedswd, how exactly it is going to work in that case? how kris will taste that sweet, sweet freedom sauce?

ERAM implies that Kris is searching for them, but we can wave that away as ERAM not knowing that it's us searching for them

two loud incorrect buzzers. eram knows about our presence "Knowing you could say it wasn't really you", and he tells that kris is searching for the shadow crystals even if you don't collect any in previous chapers.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

and he tells that kris is searching for the shadow crystals even if you don't collect any in previous chapers.

I mean the only reason you'd even be fighting him is if you're trying to get the mantle and get the crystal from the Knight, right?

 

[Cryogonal2]

is there some thematic tie there too or not really?

All the secret bosses had shards of broken dreams with them. Jevil had someone's dream, Spamton found Mettaton's dream in the abandoned machine, the Knight's sword seems to be made from the fucking crystals, and Gerson found one in his drawer, suspecting that someone planted it there Maybe it came from Alvin putting his own dreams away?. Mad Mew Mew probably had the crystal from her Lightner's dream or it was the crystal Asgore had. One way or another, they all stumbled across a broken dream.

Knowing you could say it wasn't really you

On the weird route, but regardless you're right.

 

[Sunset Ethernia]

the children followed the butcher

 

[You Can't Un'Ape The Doe]

it is probably because of the trance down effect. it awakens the user from npc like trance state

It's interesting that Spamton had it, then, because presumably it couldn't do much to help him since he still couldn't "go to heaven", and him breaking off the path was already facilitated by the shadow crystals/mike phonecall. I wonder if Gaster gave it to Spamton knowing he could give it to Noelle

 

[Schpoots]

ive cracked the code

 

[JustAnotherRetardedLurker]

Spoiler: Shipping Discourse from the 'gram

(I didn't even bother screenshotting the second half of that reply. I don't remember what it said, but I do remember it was fucking stupid)








"They're made for eachother"

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

The DR Reddit sucking off Berdly for being a HECKING ALLY at the festival and lecturing Kris about how they need to respecc that Noelle and Susie are together now and how awesome and amazing they are together after he was a hundred times more guilty of being an inconsiderate obnoxious asshole to them than Kris ever was until two days ago is one of the small parts of comedy that makes life worth living.

These people are so shallow it's insane.

It's like a bank robber lecturing someone over how harmful stealing is 5 minutes after he had a change of heart and gave the money back and a crowd of retards start cheering about how considerate he is.

 

[Best Dio Dindu Nuffin]

The last prophecy. The story's end.

And then. When all hope is lost for the tale

The final tragedy unveils.

To save the worlds, there is only one way.

Spoiler: The only way

The girl must pray the gay away.

Only then, will the worlds be saved.

 

[Cryogonal2]

Berdly for being a HECKING ALLY at the festival and lecturing Kris about how they need to respecc that Noelle and Susie are together now

they're not only taking a joke at face value, but also ignoring the fact that he only supports it because he imagines self inserting himself into their relationship.