Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

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I'm gonna miss this interpretation of the cowboy that was teased everywhere and the Woody theory as a whole. Any other fanon was a far more endearing interpretation than having a literal cocksucking faggot sheriff who dates a black trannyfaggot with a tutu.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed the scenes where Flowery calls out Ralsei's bullshit. Good antagonist, his motivations for fighting us make sense, I also thought it was pretty sick that he just directly says we could seal castle town's fountain instead of his. I liked the idea of the flowers being somewhat different from normal darkners in that they're actual living beings, and so maybe aren't bound to the prophecyslop or something? Basically you could delete all of the other flowers and give him more screentime and it would've been a major improvement lol (aqua was chill though)
 
Fuck! I just realized the biggest fucking tell that Noelle is meant to be "the girl"
The girl in the prophecy uses a sword.
Noelle is constantly giving Kris pencils of which she is always carrying, which become swords in the Dark World.
you can grab a pencil from noelle's room and it becomes a sword in the dark world
 
Looking back at the pre-battle dialogue for Mew Mew's fight, its hard not to get a sense of "self-referential humor about how people are expecting something cool here"
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It's like Toby knows that after the Old Man, there was no way in hell he could top that, so he just makes a joke out of it.
 
you can grab a pencil from noelle's room and it becomes a sword in the dark world
Literally the first thing Noelle says to Kris in the entire game is:
*Hey Kris ! What's up ? Didja lose your pencil again?
*Here you want the candy-cane one or the one with lights on it?
*Huh ? You want to be partners?
 
Looking back at the pre-battle dialogue for Mew Mew's fight, its hard not to get a sense of "self-referential humor about how people are expecting something cool here"
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It's like Toby knows that after the Old Man, there was no way in hell he could top that, so he just makes a joke out of it.
Just make the damn boss Asgore or Asgore's conspiracy cork board, and have it blast Kris with truth nukes that make him have a meltdown. Beating it would give you a nugget of lore and Ralsei and Susie could comfort Kris like they did after the Spamton fight, it's that simple Toby you fucker.
 
Looking back at the pre-battle dialogue for Mew Mew's fight, its hard not to get a sense of "self-referential humor about how people are expecting something cool here"
It's really grating. "Haha guys isnt it funny how this secret boss isnt cool or interesting at all like the previous ones? Isn't that just heckin wacky?" Why not just aim to make something cool instead of having the equivalent of a post ironic rectal prolapse all over the screen? Nigger
 
Looking back at the pre-battle dialogue for Mew Mew's fight, its hard not to get a sense of "self-referential humor about how people are expecting something cool here"
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It's like Toby knows that after the Old Man, there was no way in hell he could top that, so he just makes a joke out of it.
Holy shit, this made me roll my eyes in a way I never expected possible.

I was actually going to open the game again to collect the 10 pink coins to battle Mew Mew, but after that horrid piece of dialogue, fuck no.
 
If Kris goes on a fountain spawning rampage without us and we have to use the vessel to stop him I am going to scream.
If that happens or if we have to stop the Roaring with fucking Noelle at Susies insistence I'm going to uninstall the game and pretend that the Roaring continued thanks to the Vessel and Kris opening up fountains across the world while the scissor pair fucked around in Castle Town. Unironically this:
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Looking back at the pre-battle dialogue for Mew Mew's fight, its hard not to get a sense of "self-referential humor about how people are expecting something cool here"
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It's like Toby knows that after the Old Man, there was no way in hell he could top that, so he just makes a joke out of it.
Can't wait for the showdown with Gaster where Kris finally speaks and breaks the fourth wall. (so original!)

"The previous chapters were awful! Barely anything happened in them!"
"THAT IS HOW YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO FEEL. MY DELTARUNE HAS FINALLY UNFOLDED."

10 minute montage of Suselle appears instead of the Gaster fight, then Neil Druckmann is given special thanks in the credits that follow.
 
Anyone know some other media that teaches you what not to do in creative work?
There's an infamous anime called "Classroom of the Elite" which is a very good case study on how to completely fuck up writing a "smart" protagonist. The series is full of asspulls, moonlogic and typical japanese tropes where a seemingly regular guy is actually a secretly super smart and athletic badass with multiple women swooning over him. What separates this anime from the rest of similar titles is that the author is completely serious about his work and therefore the setting is also intended to be serious, which in turn makes it unintentionally hilarious at times. I treat it as my guilty pleasure.
I guess The Amazing Digital Circus is also a famous example, especially now that the series has concluded. There's a quite an active thread about it.
 
Just make the damn boss Asgore or Asgore's conspiracy cork board, and have it blast Kris with truth nukes that make him have a meltdown. Beating it would give you a nugget of lore and Ralsei and Susie could comfort Kris like they did after the Spamton fight, it's that simple Toby you fucker.
the notes being unreadable for no good reason is a big fuck you to the player who wanted some new lore out of anything that happened to dess or the "incident"
 
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