Uncut Gems - Adam Sandler is an actor

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read the reviews for the movie on rotten tomatoes, alot of them are complaining about how many times the word fuck is used.

Maybe it's about a guy who says fuck a lot. Sort of like Django was about a bunch of people who said nigger a lot.
 
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FUCK ARNO IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
 
I thought the film was fantastic, knowing a lot of degenerate gamblers it felt very true to life seeing Sandler's character just abandoning all common sense in his attempt for his big win. Even though he was an utterly terrible person I couldn't help but root for him.

Also the chick playing his love interest was a total doll. Didn't even show off her tits and was really hot to look at.

Lastly major kudos to the director for using accurate phones & software for the period (2012) and not dumbing down the gambling jargon for the lowest common denominator. I hate when you watch a new movie and the characters use fake OSes or have to explain what a "parlay" is.
Yeah, I was crushing on her as bad as that awesome helicopter pilot dude while watching. Nice to see an actress with a lil bit of thiccness. Hopefully she doesn't join the Hollywood Actresses Lollipop Guild

Anyway, I loved this movie too. Didn't know much about it going into it, which made Kevin Garnett very surprising to see. He was great in this, and the back-and-forth between him and Sandler was a very unexpected highlight of the movie for me.
 
I just watched this.

This was a hell of a movie, I was pretty blown away, the tension is so thick at times, especially near the end, that you can cut it with a knife.

It's crazy that it wasn't even nominated for best picture.

I feel like this is a movie ripe with symbolism and a lot of messages, but I wonder what they really are, I have a take on the movie's meaning but I'm not sure whether it's correct or not, but it's always nice when you watch a movie that's simply fun to watch and leaves you thinking.


Yeah, I was crushing on her as bad as that awesome helicopter pilot dude while watching. Nice to see an actress with a lil bit of thiccness.
Yeah, not gonna lie, she was really, really hot.
 
I just watched this.

This was a hell of a movie, I was pretty blown away, the tension is so thick at times, especially near the end, that you can cut it with a knife.

It's crazy that it wasn't even nominated for best picture.

I feel like this is a movie ripe with symbolism and a lot of messages, but I wonder what they really are, I have a take on the movie's meaning but I'm not sure whether it's correct or not, but it's always nice when you watch a movie that's simply fun to watch and leaves you thinking.



Yeah, not gonna lie, she was really, really hot.
If you haven't seen the directors other movie Good Time check it out, I'd say it's even better than Uncut Gems.
 
If you haven't seen the directors other movie Good Time check it out, I'd say it's even better than Uncut Gems.
Good Time is definitely on my watchlist now.

As for my interpretation of the movie's meaning it could be a movie about the nature of addiction in general about a character who just happens to be Jewish or it could be a commentary on Jews themselves, Jews like Howard who do fit the stereotype of constantly wheeling and dealing and not taking a hint when they're really pissing someone off, until finally they simply take it a step too far and someone snaps and it ends fatally for both Howard and more reasonable Jews like Arno.

I could be wrong, but that's just my feel is that it's a commentary on modern American society, what I like is Howard's a pretty different guy than me, a basketball obsessed Jew, but I was still rooting for him even though I knew he was probably gonna wind up pushing things too far, it was interesting to see an inside look at Jewish life though and it says it all how good this movie is when a character as clearly stereotypical as Howard still feels like a real person and someone who you want to root for.

I also couldn't help but notice that Julia is wearing a cross necklace at the end of the movie and I wonder what symbolism there may be with that.


I could be reading too much into it, but a really good movie like this leaves you thinking like that.
 
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Good Time is definitely on my watchlist now.

As for my interpretation of the movie's meaning it could be a movie about the nature of addiction in general about a character who just happens to be Jewish or it could be a commentary on Jews themselves, Jews like Howard who do fit the stereotype of constantly wheeling and dealing and not taking a hint when they're really pissing someone off, until finally they simply take it a step too far and someone snaps and it ends fatally for both Howard and more reasonable Jews like Arno.

I could be wrong, but that's just my feel is that it's a commentary on modern American society, what I like is Howard's a pretty different guy than me, a basketball obsessed Jew, but I was still rooting for him even though I knew he was probably gonna wind up pushing things too far, it was interesting to see an inside look at Jewish life though and it says it all how good this movie is when a character as clearly stereotypical as Howard still feels like a real person and someone who you want to root for.

I also couldn't help but notice that Julia is wearing a cross necklace at the end of the movie and I wonder what symbolism there may be with that.


I could be reading too much into it, but a really good movie like this leaves you thinking like that.
It really speaks volumes about the Safdie Brothers films that I vividly remember both "Uncut Gems" and "Good Time" despite it being more than a year since I saw either film. Definitely two of my favorite movies of the last decade and I'm excited to see their upcoming work.

Anyway I don't see the movie as being a commentary on a scheming Jew archetypes although I can see why you've come to that feeling. Note that when the family is altogether during Passover you can hear them talking about how Arno shouldn't be there because he's a gentile. So you might be onto something. With that said I don't think this act of rudeness is a distinctly Jewish trait, I've felt like a total unwanted outsider when visiting an ex-gf's family for the Holidays who had grandparents who were upset that I wasn't a Mormon. Ultimately religious followings eventually become ethnic followings and your elders want you to marry within the flock.

I still think the movie is a character study of why a degenerate gambler will ruin his life just for a rush of excitement. Howard is shown on paper to have a life that most men would likely envy. He was quite wealthy with a lovely house, a beautiful spouse, and his own very successful business that catered to the fabulously wealthy. But that wasn't enough for him, he needed excitement, he needed the feeling that he could wind up dead in the gutter. Why would anyone want to undergo unnecessary stress? Because it was fun for him to risk everything.

Did he really love his mistress? Sure he acts like he does, he started kvetching when he saw her new "Howard" tattoo as that'd mean she couldn't be buried in a Jewish cemetery. But they also fight quite a bit, he couldn't believe her that she wasn't interested in fucking The Weeknd. To me Julia just represents another gamble for Howard, that he was wiling to risk his marriage and the respect of his children just for the thrill of screwing a young woman. The gamble in this case was to clearly be cheating on your spouse and get away with the infidelity with no direct punishments.

When I've put in money into a gambling account and bet $100 on several teams there's a ton of nervousness and excitement to hopefully guess correctly. Now I'm not a degenerate gambler like Howard is, but I know well the feeling of a major bet being up in the air as athletes compete in a game. It's a total adrenaline high. And when it goes your way you feel awesome.

If the mobsters had just been more friendly, maybe beat the shit out of Howard again and taken a larger cut of the winnings would Howard have learned his lesson? I'd say no. I think he would have taken whatever swath of the fortune he could have kept and then gambled it away. Because that's just the nature of a gambling addict, they don't stop till they no longer have anything left to gamble with.

As for Julia's cross necklace, I'm not really sure if the character intended to find Howard and bring him the cash to live happily ever after or if she was off to enjoy her new fortune. It doesn't matter now that Howard's skull was on the floor of his shop. Again the Safdie's put in that comical tattoo scene to make the point that he at least wanted her to think that he was seriously in love with her, she was going to be the next wife and would have to convert and be a Jew. Well if you really think Howard would go thru divorce which I sure don't. But at the end she's got the money and she'll move on with her life. Her Howard tat will replaced with something else. She now has the opportunity to make whatever life she wanted.
 
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It really speaks volumes about the Safdie Brothers films that I vividly remember both "Uncut Gems" and "Good Time" despite it being more than a year since I saw either film. Definitely two of my favorite movies of the last decade and I'm excited to see their upcoming work.

Anyway I don't see the movie as being a commentary on a scheming Jew archetypes although I can see why you've come to that feeling. Note that when the family is altogether during Passover you can hear them talking about how Arno shouldn't be there because he's a gentile. So you might be onto something. With that said I don't think this act of rudeness is a distinctly Jewish trait, I've felt like a total unwanted outsider when visiting an ex-gf's family for the Holidays who had grandparents who were upset that I wasn't a Mormon. Ultimately religious followings eventually become ethnic followings and your elders want you to marry within the flock.

I still think the movie is a character study of why a degenerate gambler will ruin his life just for a rush of excitement. Howard is shown on paper to have a life that most men would likely envy. He was quite wealthy with a lovely house, a beautiful spouse, and his own very successful business that catered to the fabulously wealthy. But that wasn't enough for him, he needed excitement, he needed the feeling that he could wind up dead in the gutter. Why would anyone want to undergo unnecessary stress? Because it was fun for him to risk everything.

Did he really love his mistress? Sure he acts like he does, he started kvetching when he saw her new "Howard" tattoo as that'd mean she couldn't be buried in a Jewish cemetery. But they also fight quite a bit, he couldn't believe her that she wasn't interested in fucking The Weeknd. To me Julia just represents another gamble for Howard, that he was wiling to risk his marriage and the respect of his children just for the thrill of screwing a young woman. The gamble in this case was to clearly be cheating on your spouse and get away with the infidelity with no direct punishments.

When I've put in money into a gambling account and bet $100 on several teams there's a ton of nervousness and excitement to hopefully guess correctly. Now I'm not a degenerate gambler like Howard is, but I know well the feeling of a major bet being up in the air as athletes compete in a game. It's a total adrenaline high. And when it goes your way you feel awesome.

If the mobsters had just been more friendly, maybe beat the shit out of Howard again and taken a larger cut of the winnings would Howard have learned his lesson? I'd say no. I think he would have taken whatever swath of the fortune he could have kept and then gambled it away. Because that's just the nature of a gambling addict, they don't stop till they no longer have anything left to gamble with.

As for Julia's cross necklace, I'm not really sure if the character intended to find Howard and bring him the cash to live happily ever after or if she was off to enjoy her new fortune. It doesn't matter now that Howard's skull was on the floor of his shop. Again the Safdie's put in that comical tattoo scene to make the point that he at least wanted her to think that he was seriously in love with her, she was going to be the next wife and would have to convert and be a Jew. Well if you really think Howard would go thru divorce which I sure don't. But at the end she's got the money and she'll move on with her life. Her Howard tat will replaced with something else. She now has the opportunity to make whatever life she wanted.
My take on the movie could be wrong, but it's still interesting to think this stuff could unconsciously seep into the movie.

I like to think this is a well intentioned movie by two Jews who are willing to be self reflective, Howard Ratner isn't really bad dude per se, he has every intention of paying off his debt to Arno and with interest, but in his wheeling and dealing he simply fails to see how he's pissing Phil off, "this is how I win" he says but it's actually how he loses, well intentioned he may he simply lacks the ability to take a look in the mirror and other Jews like Arno have to suffer too because of it.

It's interesting how stereotypical Howard is as a character to some degree but he also feels like a real human being and is still sympathetic, this is a movie interested in reality, the polar opposite of most "Woke" media these days, even walking stereotypes have layers to them, this movie being both willing to acknowledge the stereotypical side while delving into the layers of them is really refreshing.

Of course I could be reading too much into the movie, but eh, I watched another movie just a couple of months ago, 1989's Let It Ride starring Richard Dreyfus, about another Jewish guy who likes to gamble, this time it's betting on horse racing, but that movie is very clearly using gambling as a metaphor for something greater, about faith in God.

I think Uncut Gems is doing something similar, but either way it's simply a well made movie that's worth watching, the tension during certain scenes is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

But I also simply like the fact that Julia is a character who is generally portrayed positively and one point she's wearing a cross, am I reading too much into it? Maybe, but I like to think there's something positive behind that.
 
Bear Jew in Inglourious Basterds was wrote in mind for Sandler to play, but he turned it down due to shooting conflicts with another movie he was doing at the time.
Funny People was the movie, it's lame that he picked that over Inglourious Basterds considering Funny People is basically forgotten now.

I saw both in theaters back in 2009 and Inglourious Basterds was definitely the better movie, although Funny People is alright.

2009 was such a different time lol.
 
Of course I could be reading too much into the movie, but eh, I watched another movie just a couple of months ago, 1989's Let It Ride starring Richard Dreyfus, about another Jewish guy who likes to gamble, this time it's betting on horse racing, but that movie is very clearly using gambling as a metaphor for something greater, about faith in God.
If you liked that, you'd probably also like California Split, an Altman film starring Elliott Gould and George Segal as a pair of degenerate gamblers playing pretty much every game imaginable. The gambling is incredibly accurate for the period, but again, is talking about something else although it isn't explicit what.

Elliott Gould is a Jew, so may have been playing one as well, although it doesn't come up that I can recall. What he is is a hardcore degenerate gambler, while his friend is only starting out.
 
My take on the movie could be wrong, but it's still interesting to think this stuff could unconsciously seep into the movie.

I like to think this is a well intentioned movie by two Jews who are willing to be self reflective, Howard Ratner isn't really bad dude per se, he has every intention of paying off his debt to Arno and with interest, but in his wheeling and dealing he simply fails to see how he's pissing Phil off, "this is how I win" he says but it's actually how he loses, well intentioned he may he simply lacks the ability to take a look in the mirror and other Jews like Arno have to suffer too because of it.

It's interesting how stereotypical Howard is as a character to some degree but he also feels like a real human being and is still sympathetic, this is a movie interested in reality, the polar opposite of most "Woke" media these days, even walking stereotypes have layers to them, this movie being both willing to acknowledge the stereotypical side while delving into the layers of them is really refreshing.

Of course I could be reading too much into the movie, but eh, I watched another movie just a couple of months ago, 1989's Let It Ride starring Richard Dreyfus, about another Jewish guy who likes to gamble, this time it's betting on horse racing, but that movie is very clearly using gambling as a metaphor for something greater, about faith in God.

I think Uncut Gems is doing something similar, but either way it's simply a well made movie that's worth watching, the tension during certain scenes is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

But I also simply like the fact that Julia is a character who is generally portrayed positively and one point she's wearing a cross, am I reading too much into it? Maybe, but I like to think there's something positive behind that.
BTW I wasn't trying to imply your feelings on the film were wrong. I just mean that the main theme of the film are the nature of degenerate gamblers while Howard's distinct jewish schyster style is another theme. There's no denying that Uncut Gems is a very Jewish film, and the Safdie Brothers & Sandler nailed that East Coast Jewish culture.

The closest thing to a true religious element to the film is how Sandler is able to convince Kevin Garnett of the majesty of the titular uncut Black Opals, Howard makes Garnett feel like he's getting closer to God by starring into the stones. Of course in reality (and the film) we know that Black Opals just reflect light into cool prism colors. Even Garnett is aware and isn't willing to get scammed by Howard although he still loves the gems enough to buy them at fair price.

And Julia's cross at the end, you can see it as her pretty much refuting Howard's controlling and manipulative ways. I interpret it as more innocent that she's just moving on with her life and isn't becoming Mrs. Howard.

BTW remember that Arno is not a Jew! He just married into a Jewish family.

The father-in-law makes a gesture towards Arno, his gentile creditor son-in-law. “You know what he says to me? He comes over and says to me, ‘Happy holidays!’ Like it’s Christmas! It’s like having an intruder in your own home.”
One can make the argument that Howard is more willing to piss off the goys (Arno & Phil) whereas when he tries to get cash from his fellow Hassids in the diamond district he pawns off his valuables. Of course this is simply the difference between borrowing money from businessmen who only work with you if they're guaranteed to win in the end vs petty thugs who use violence to get their way.
 
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