U.S. senate committee introduces bill that could makes high encryption illegal

WTF is wrong with the U.S. Government?

Seriously? First it was Turd Sandwich vs Gaint Douche for President and now they want to kill encryption and drive every single IT company out of the U.S.

https://rietta.com/blog/2016/04/08/feinstein-burr-encryption-bill/

Here's the gist of the article;

The anticipated Feinstein-Burr Compliance with Court Orders Act, an anti-security bill, would require the provision of data in an intelligible format to a government pursuant to a court order (scribd.com). A draft copy was uploaded by The Hill reporter Cory Bennett, though whether it has been submitted officially within the Senate is not yet clear (vice.com).

This bill essentially says you can not have any conversation or data exchange that the government can not access if it wants to. It is the legal culmination of what the FBI has been lobbying Congress for years. If Feinstein-Burr becomes law, it will be illegal to deploy strong encryption without key escrow maintained by each company. Cryptographers and computer scientists near-unanimously assert key backup systems are insecure at scale.

The first read of the bill is chilling. Strong cryptography within the United States would effectively be banned, preventing U.S. companies from building secure software. These companies would be mandated to provide real technical assistance. Unlike the best effort of today, they would be required to give plain-text data in its original format or risk penalties for violating the law.

Specifically, any U.S company would be required to maintain the ability, through unspecified means, to retrieve the plain-text from any data “made unintelligible by a feature, product, or service owned, controlled, created, or provided by the [company].” And the company would then be required to turn over such data in real-time “concurrently with its transmission” or “expeditiously, if stored by the [company] or on a device.”

Are all your politicians that stupid and or corrupt that this seems like a good idea? Holy fuck the U.S. is going to hell faster then I ever would have believed possible.
 
WTF is wrong with the U.S. Government?

Seriously? First it was Turd Sandwich vs Gaint Douche for President and now they want to kill encryption and drive every single IT company out of the U.S.

https://rietta.com/blog/2016/04/08/feinstein-burr-encryption-bill/

Here's the gist of the article;

The anticipated Feinstein-Burr Compliance with Court Orders Act, an anti-security bill, would require the provision of data in an intelligible format to a government pursuant to a court order (scribd.com). A draft copy was uploaded by The Hill reporter Cory Bennett, though whether it has been submitted officially within the Senate is not yet clear (vice.com).

This bill essentially says you can not have any conversation or data exchange that the government can not access if it wants to. It is the legal culmination of what the FBI has been lobbying Congress for years. If Feinstein-Burr becomes law, it will be illegal to deploy strong encryption without key escrow maintained by each company. Cryptographers and computer scientists near-unanimously assert key backup systems are insecure at scale.

The first read of the bill is chilling. Strong cryptography within the United States would effectively be banned, preventing U.S. companies from building secure software. These companies would be mandated to provide real technical assistance. Unlike the best effort of today, they would be required to give plain-text data in its original format or risk penalties for violating the law.

Specifically, any U.S company would be required to maintain the ability, through unspecified means, to retrieve the plain-text from any data “made unintelligible by a feature, product, or service owned, controlled, created, or provided by the [company].” And the company would then be required to turn over such data in real-time “concurrently with its transmission” or “expeditiously, if stored by the [company] or on a device.”

Are all your politicians that stupid and or corrupt that this seems like a good idea? Holy fuck the U.S. is going to hell faster then I ever would have believed possible.
Tabling a bill means it was set aside.
So this bill got shot down.
Good job.

EDIT: Upon reading the article, they don't say that they tabled it in that article, but this bill hasn't even been introduced into committee.

I'm all for vigilance, vigilance is good, but this would have almost certainly died in committee anyway, assuming that the sponsors weren't told that this is a retarded idea and that it would never pass (which is almost certainly what would have happened.)

Your thread title and OP are pretty alarmist though.
 
Hmmm, well the bill was put before the senate to be read. I always thought that was called "being tabled"

But I could be wrong.

As far as being alarmist, well if they do the standard sneak a unpopular bill as a rider into something big and nessary it could seriously get passed.

I just worry a about shit like this getting through the system as it seems no one cares at all. It doesn't get reported in main stream media so unless word gets out it probably will pass. Now for once the lobby parasite have a use as Silcon Valley just can't sit back and let the Senate pass a bill that would effectively kill them.

Now I'm not really concerned about the U.S. Government getting a back door into everyone's keys, if they get issued a legal subpoena I agreed they should have access even though it's a dangerous tool to give, but we all know if the government has ways to gain access then it will be pretty easy for other parties to exploit that access.

It's just not a safe or wise road to start down.
 
No, it has not been put before the Senate in any form. It has yet to even be submitted.

The article dijo:
The anticipated Feinstein-Burr Compliance with Court Orders Act, an anti-security bill, would require the provision of data in an intelligible format to a government pursuant to a court order(scribd.com). A draft copy was uploaded by The Hill reporter Cory Bennett, though whether it has been submitted officially within the Senate is not yet clear (vice.com).

Nice to see that the sponsor is that fuck Feinstein. Can't wait till she drops.
 
The US government isn't going to shutter a trillion dollar industry to catch a couple of terrorists.

Vigilance is important, and if this goes any further, you should call your congressmen and tell them not to support turd bills like this. Also call any congressmen who support the bill and tell them to eat a dick.

But yeah, I'm not that worried.
 
China and Russia will love this bill,if cracking shit encryption was easy,imagine one with a backdoor...
Anyway I like how is totally okay to Google,Apple,Microsoft to steal our data for selling to companies but the evil bad government can't do that to make sure you ain't gonna do shit.
Anyway terrorists aren't stupid to use digital comms.
AL Qaeda used person to person couriers for a reason.
Isis is using open source comms like WhatsApp and telegram which are nearly impossible to recover messages from.
They even use console party chats for terrorism planning because no one really cares about it( who thought that something used by 13 year olds playing cod would be used for that?).
 
Are all your politicians that stupid and or corrupt that this seems like a good idea? Holy fuck the U.S. is going to hell faster then I ever would have believed possible.

Dianne Fineslime is a traitor who has been trying to nuke the Constitution from orbit for literally decades. This is nothing new for her.
 
If it wasn't tabled, it would probably have affected cybersecurity departments in big companies. I'm pretty relieved that it's been shot down.
 
The US government isn't going to shutter a trillion dollar industry to catch a couple of terrorists.

Vigilance is important, and if this goes any further, you should call your congressmen and tell them not to support turd bills like this. Also call any congressmen who support the bill and tell them to eat a dick.

But yeah, I'm not that worried.

Kazakhstan introduced a measure that required all ISPs monitor connected devices for the installation of a required certificate allowing the government to conduct MITM attacks. It's not unimaginable to see this duplicated here.
 
Kazakhstan introduced a measure that required all ISPs monitor connected devices for the installation of a required certificate allowing the government to conduct MITM attacks. It's not unimaginable to see this duplicated here.
Won't this backfire in a espetacular way?
China and Russia have already stolen industrial and military secrets from American companies.
Cant they see a backdoor will only help them?
 
Kazakhstan introduced a measure that required all ISPs monitor connected devices for the installation of a required certificate allowing the government to conduct MITM attacks. It's not unimaginable to see this duplicated here.
I'm not that concerned because it seems to me that money (tech companies) carries more weight than terrorism worries.

The groups with an interest in strong encryption have the clout to fight this sort of thing aggressively. The evidence is strongly on their side. All the anti-encryption people have is terrorism and pedophilia.

There's also historical examples of failed attempts to pull this sort of thing, like the clipper chip. The technical fuckups with the clipper chip say a lot, I think.

There are also constitutional issues with regulating cryptography in the United States. It's easier to pass laws regulating the export of cryptography from the US, but once the software is in the US, it's pretty hard to regulate because of the first amendment. (Heh, just to prove a point, you can use a C->Prose translator and bam, an encryption algorithm is suddenly constitutionally protected speech.)

It's not impossible that some shitty legislator manages to squeak a turd bill like this through. I think it's just very unlikely, and it'd be an explosive issue that would get shut down pretty quickly.

(Heh, y'know Trump would love a law like that.)

Only when this starts to progress to any serious extent will I get worried. Then I'll call up my legislators to complain about it.
 
I'm not that concerned because it seems to me that money (tech companies) carries more weight than terrorism worries.

The groups with an interest in strong encryption have the clout to fight this sort of thing aggressively. The evidence is strongly on their side. All the anti-encryption people have is terrorism and pedophilia.

There's also historical examples of failed attempts to pull this sort of thing, like the clipper chip. The technical fuckups with the clipper chip say a lot, I think.

If you remember that, you remember Dianne Feinstein was one of its leading supporters. In 1994. She's been at this shit for well over 20 years. The problem with these cockroaches is they always come back the moment it seems dark again.
 
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