TundranVoltaire / sea-chart - The Kiwis' Benedict Arnold

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It's so damn bizarre seeing Tumblristas operate outside of Tumblr. One minute they're here spilling everything to us with pretty much no objection, seeming perfectly (or at least relatively) normal, and the next they're running back to their blogs whining about how mean the outside internet is and pretending to be anime characters or some shit. It's amazing. They really are just a bunch of kids. A bunch of drama-mongering, victim complex-milking kids. Is there any exception? It's certainly been more the rule on these boards.
 
I think it's funny she thinks that her being welcomed here pretty enthusiastically was fake, but has no qualms with the fucked up and two faced nature of her Tumblr pals.
 
Did I push too hard for information? I wasn't trying to intentionally upset him or anything and had genuine feels for what he went through. I'll never really understand people who are that deep in Tumblr I suppose.
 
Damn, if anyone's two faced its this Tumblrina. And you know it wasn't us being "too nice"; it was most likely that we're not harassing Volts like Tumbirna spergs expect people to do when they dish the dirt on someone they don't like.
 
Yeah, I think that's @TheGentlemanScientist, who was apparently on here and liking peoples' posts all of two hours before running off, bitching about us in public and deciding we're all shitty liars who are out to get him.

What a fucking random time to change his mind. Not sure what caused that, as I can't actually see any posts that logically would've caused that kind of thing. Was it talking about Tanku? Taking shots at genderspecials? Jaimas asking about any other loopy friends Volts or Vade have? Does this dude just have a massive victim complex too? I have no idea.

These tumblr kids are fucking weird. None of that compassion seemed fake to me but then I lurked long enough before I joined to realize that the vast majority of Kiwis are good people. Good people who like to giggle at speds flipping out on the internet, but still good people.

(edit: accidentally tab-returned before I was done, whoops.)

There's a valuable lesson in this: If it stinks of Tumblrina, don't trust.
 
Yeah, I think that's @TheGentlemanScientist, who was apparently on here and liking peoples' posts all of two hours before running off, bitching about us in public and deciding we're all shitty liars who are out to get him.

What a fucking random time to change his mind. Not sure what caused that, as I can't actually see any posts that logically would've caused that kind of thing. Was it talking about Tanku? Taking shots at genderspecials? Jaimas asking about any other loopy friends Volts or Vade have? Does this dude just have a massive victim complex too? I have no idea.

These tumblr kids are fucking weird. None of that compassion seemed fake to me but then I lurked long enough before I joined to realize that the vast majority of Kiwis are good people. Good people who like to giggle at speds flipping out on the internet, but still good people.

He was saying to me he wasn't liking the fact he was being pressured to talk about a lot of his personal life. I know that he had a bit of a breakdown yesterday and wasn't really in the best frame of mind.
 
He was saying to me he wasn't liking the fact he was being pressured to talk about a lot of his personal life. I know that he had a bit of a breakdown yesterday and wasn't really in the best frame of mind.
I hope he bounces back soon.

Having said that, I don't understand why this was a huge shock to him. He showed up and it seemed like he was willing to answer questions about an internet nutbar and I guess after a couple of the really long screeds people assumed he'd changed his mind and started asking questions.

Accusing people of being lying deceiving assholes for doing what you more or less encouraged them to do is a dick move, especially as I'm pretty sure most of the people in this thread would've been perfectly understanding if he'd just said at some point before the breakdown that "hey, I'm a bit overwhelmed, I think I need to opt out". Come on.

(edit:left out words. again.)
 
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He was saying to me he wasn't liking the fact he was being pressured to talk about a lot of his personal life. I know that he had a bit of a breakdown yesterday and wasn't really in the best frame of mind.

I guess that's definitely possible, but in reading back through it, he said he didn't want to talk about it, and it seems like everyone dropped it, and then he gave a massive dissertation on it, with a disclaimer at the top saying he didn't want to talk about it.

Unless he was being PM'd, the only pressure he was feeling was from himself. Kid needs to get off the internet and stop taking a forum that makes fun of spergs so seriously.

I think there's a definite reason they were together so long, and this is just going to become another Tumblrista calf, calling it now. Not milkable, but with all the potential to be a cow in the future or at least enjoys existing in the herd. You don't just date someone that long without being at least a *little* like them.

There's a valuable lesson in this: If it stinks of Tumblrina, don't trust.
 
He was saying to me he wasn't liking the fact he was being pressured to talk about a lot of his personal life. I know that he had a bit of a breakdown yesterday and wasn't really in the best frame of mind.

Yeah, but nobody was exactly twisting his arm about it. In fact, the bulk of this thread comprised people who said "If you're not comfortable discussing it, do not do so." That's the part that macks of being completely disingenuous, and ironically is a hallmark of Team Vade by this point. Harken, if you will, to this post, taken almost a year ago, on this very forum:

Vade_Vs_Jaimas.png

In this one image, Vade unintentionally revealed her entire hand in one go. Literally about 60% of Vade's arguments can be ended, outright, with this image. Her admissions of no professional diagnosis, claiming DID is the same as headmates and denying their existence is the same as saying that DID doesn't exist, her outright denying what she herself has posted. Nobody twisted her arm to say this bullshit in the first place, but she still ran away crying after we refused to succumb to her offensive and claimed we were ever-so-mean and ableist towards her when the general gist is that we confronted her with facts, which have a well-known anti-Vade bias.

It's so damn bizarre seeing Tumblristas operate outside of Tumblr. One minute they're here spilling everything to us with pretty much no objection, seeming perfectly (or at least relatively) normal, and the next they're running back to their blogs whining about how mean the outside internet is and pretending to be anime characters or some shit. It's amazing. They really are just a bunch of kids. A bunch of drama-mongering, victim complex-milking kids. Is there any exception? It's certainly been more the rule on these boards.

Let me elaborate on this. I'm pretty sure our beloved @Meowthkip or @fishercat could give you some great insight on it, but here's my general analysis on it from the perspective of one of the Farms' most inveterate Tumblr chronicleers:

There's a sort of "Crabs in a bucket" mentality amongst the Tumblristas who are engaged in a cult of personality. The general gist is that if one of them starts to diverge too heavily from the party line, starts to break off too much from the norm, the others in the group will wage war to drag them back into the fold and force them to sit with the rest of the broken and fucked. Nothing is off limits; though Vade is now a joke compared to what she was, even stupid may not eternal lie, and a dead self-proclaimed god still dreams. Vade still has enough influence to scare those with a lot of skeletons in their closets (sorry KiwiBigJ) and the prospect of being haram on Tumblr, even within a community of inveterate dickbags, is enough to keep the rabble in line. As we saw from Vade's actions, she thinks nothing of a months-long campaign of harassment over such important topics as disagreeing with Vade, and certainly thought little of bringing a man to his death for little more than so she could have Tumblr status. Fucking disgraceful.

So when one of the Vade crew peeks above water, it's equal parts wanting to be free of it and trying to get a grasp on what things are like outside the crazy. But Vade's crew keeps a constant watch. You belong to Alyssa now. You are not allowed to have normalcy. You are not allowed to have actual medical diagnosis, you are not allowed freedom. Vade is a fucking cultist.
 
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Let me elaborate on this. I'm pretty sure our beloved @Meowthkip or @fishercat could give you some great insight on it, but here's my general analysis on it from the perspective of one of the Farms' most inveterate Tumblr chronicleers:

There's a sort of "Crabs in a bucket" mentality amongst the Tumblristas who are engaged in a cult of personality. The general gist is that if one of them starts to diverge too heavily from the party line, starts to break off too much from the norm, the others in the group will wage war to drag them back into the fold and force them to sit with the rest of the broken and fucked. Nothing is off limits; though Vade is now a joke compared to what she was, even stupid may not eternal lie, and a dead self-proclaimed god still dreams. Vade still has enough influence to scare those with a lot of skeletons in their closets (sorry KiwiBigJ) and the prospect of being haram on Tumblr, even within a community of inveterate dickbags, is enough to keep the rabble in line. As we saw from Vade's actions, she thinks nothing of a months-long campaign of harassment over such important topics as disagreeing with Vade, and certainly thought little of bringing a man to his death

So when one of the Vade crew peeks above water, it's equal parts wanting to be free of it and trying to get a grasp on what things are like outside the crazy. But Vade's crew keeps a constant watch. You belong to Alyssa now. You are not allowed to have normalcy. You are not allowed to have actual medical diagnosis, you are not allowed freedom. Vade is a fucking cultist.

It's not just Vade. Tumblr's high school clique mentality keeps people in line through sheer peer pressure. You start agreeing with their logic just to keep your head down and not appear "problematic," and then before too long you're drinking the Kool-Aid. You can still see a lot of that influence in my early posts in the Vade thread (feeling the need to justify social justice as a concept, even though it is still a concept I generally support so long as it's pre-Tumblr), even though I would like to think I was far more resistant than most on Tumblr just due to being older and having a stronger sense of self. If you deviate too far from what is accepted, you will be subjected to humiliation. Posts on Tumblr that get hundreds of thousands of notes from the OP being an idiot will usually result in OP deleting their blog or changing their URL. Sometimes it's deserving, like that chick that defended mayonnaise as a gender. Other times it's because somebody made a comment considered unacceptable by Tumblr SJ groupthink.

Vade is more toxic than most, more insidious. Vade is the extremist, but this behavior is hardly unusual.

Kind of fucked up, really.
 
Yeah, but nobody was exactly twisting his arm about it. In fact, the bulk of this thread comprised people who said "If you're not comfortable discussing it, do not do so." That's the part that macks of being completely disingenuous, and ironically is a hallmark of Team Vade by this point. Harken, if you will, to this post, taken almost a year ago, on this very forum:

Vade_Vs_Jaimas.png

In this one image, Vade unintentionally revealed her entire hand in one go. Literally about 60% of Vade's arguments can be ended, outright, with this image. Her admissions of no professional diagnosis, claiming DID is the same as headmates and denying their existence is the same as saying that DID doesn't exist, her outright denying what she herself has posted. Nobody twisted her arm to say this bullshit in the first place, but she still ran away crying after we refused to succumb to her offensive and claimed we were ever-so-mean and ableist towards her when the general gist is that we confronted her with facts, which have a well-known anti-Vade bias.



Let me elaborate on this. I'm pretty sure our beloved @Meowthkip or @fishercat could give you some great insight on it, but here's my general analysis on it from the perspective of one of the Farms' most inveterate Tumblr chronicleers:

There's a sort of "Crabs in a bucket" mentality amongst the Tumblristas who are engaged in a cult of personality. The general gist is that if one of them starts to diverge too heavily from the party line, starts to break off too much from the norm, the others in the group will wage war to drag them back into the fold and force them to sit with the rest of the broken and fucked. Nothing is off limits; though Vade is now a joke compared to what she was, even stupid may not eternal lie, and a dead self-proclaimed god still dreams. Vade still has enough influence to scare those with a lot of skeletons in their closets (sorry KiwiBigJ) and the prospect of being haram on Tumblr, even within a community of inveterate dickbags, is enough to keep the rabble in line. As we saw from Vade's actions, she thinks nothing of a months-long campaign of harassment over such important topics as disagreeing with Vade, and certainly thought little of bringing a man to his death

So when one of the Vade crew peeks above water, it's equal parts wanting to be free of it and trying to get a grasp on what things are like outside the crazy. But Vade's crew keeps a constant watch. You belong to Alyssa now. You are not allowed to have normalcy. You are not allowed to have actual medical diagnosis, you are not allowed freedom. Vade is a fucking cultist.
This. All of my this.
To focus in on the topic at hand, TundranVoltaire seems like a whiny little shit, but I don't get the sense that she's quite as deliberately malicious as Vade. Best as I can tell, these are the actions of a fairly unintelligent girl who has chosen to surround herself with lunatics. Oh she's a cow, no question, but I don't get that sense of casual cruelty that Vade gives off. I think a chunk of what Volts is doing can be attributed to staying firmly on the party line, simply because she lacks the will or brains to do otherwise. Her action are still inexcusable, but they seem more like the actions of a cult member than a cult leader.
 
I hope he bounces back soon.

Having said that, I don't understand why this was a huge shock to him. He showed up and it seemed like he was willing to answer questions about an internet nutbar and I guess after a couple of the really long screeds people assumed he'd changed his mind and started asking questions.

Accusing people of being lying deceiving assholes for doing what you more or less encouraged them to do is a dick move, especially as I'm pretty sure most of the people in this thread would've been perfectly understanding if he'd just said at some point before the breakdown that "hey, I'm a bit overwhelmed, I think I need to opt out". Come on.

(edit:left out words. again.)
Used to Tumblr's mode of operation, maybe? @TheGentlemanScientist, if someone asks you a question, you CAN say "that's too personal i don't want to talk about it", no one is going to jump on you and call you a shitlord. No one's empathy was false.
 
Used to Tumblr's mode of operation, maybe? @TheGentlemanScientist, if someone asks you a question, you CAN say "that's too personal i don't want to talk about it", no one is going to jump on you and call you a shitlord. No one's empathy was false.

Yeah, we actually gave a shit. If we didn't, we sure as shit wouldn't have rattled off examples from our own experiences.
 
Yeah, we actually gave a shit. If we didn't, we sure as shit wouldn't have rattled off examples from our own experiences.
And inversely if anyone HAD wanted to insult the dude - they probably just would've flat out done it.

Nice to be using a website that allows people to speak their minds.
 
It's not just Vade. Tumblr's high school clique mentality keeps people in line through sheer peer pressure. You start agreeing with their logic just to keep your head down and not appear "problematic," and then before too long you're drinking the Kool-Aid. You can still see a lot of that influence in my early posts in the Vade thread (feeling the need to justify social justice as a concept, even though it is still a concept I generally support so long as it's pre-Tumblr), even though I would like to think I was far more resistant than most on Tumblr just due to being older and having a stronger sense of self. If you deviate too far from what is accepted, you will be subjected to humiliation. Posts on Tumblr that get hundreds of thousands of notes from the OP being an idiot will usually result in OP deleting their blog or changing their URL. Sometimes it's deserving, like that chick that defended mayonnaise as a gender. Other times it's because somebody made a comment considered unacceptable by Tumblr SJ groupthink.
It really doesn't help that the majority of Tumblr users are relatively young.
 
It really doesn't help that the majority of Tumblr users are relatively young.
It doesn't help that the people turning into these monsters never grew a spine. They don't learn from their mistakes and frankly hardly ever do they face the consequenses of their actions.

This is what happens if your parents never told you to hit the bully back if they hit you first, and not let the bully hand your ass to you once or twice.
 
Alright. I'm sorry guys for that flip out. I had a domino effect of stress wham me like a semi yesterday. You guys weren't the only one I flipped out on, I also flipped on most of my friends and parents. Trying to patch stuff up still but figured to start some damage control here before things spiraled.

It was a shit move of me to publicly post that stuff. Luckily almost no one reads that blog. Took the stuff down even though you all got a picture of it. I don't need more people getting involved. Especially tumblr.

However I do need to try to slip a bit under the radar, so that I can keep any of this from biting me in the ass in real life. (Moreso than as I'm sick of my dad asking me over and over what happened.)

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For the poly thing: Yeah, that happened. I proposed it, but Volts asked a couple people without my consent. That already made that "poly" last like a week. It meant nothing to me, but it did to Volts. idk if we have caps of them freaking out about that though. They mostly did it verbally. And you don't exactly have Audacity open to record Sound Mixer at all times. Kinda wish I did, though.
 
Alright. I'm sorry guys for that flip out. I had a domino effect of stress wham me like a semi yesterday. You guys weren't the only one I flipped out on, I also flipped on most of my friends and parents. Trying to patch stuff up still but figured to start some damage control here before things spiraled.

It was a shit move of me to publicly post that stuff. Luckily almost no one reads that blog. Took the stuff down even though you all got a picture of it. I don't need more people getting involved. Especially tumblr.

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For the poly thing: Yeah, that happened. I proposed it, but Volts asked a couple people without my consent. That already made that "poly" last like a week. It meant nothing to me, but it did to Volts. idk if we have caps of them freaking out about that though. They mostly did it verbally. And you don't exactly have Audacity open to record Sound Mixer at all times. Kinda wish I did, though.
I'm genuinely glad to see you had the cajones to admit you fucked up and apologize, as not a whole hell of a lot of people do that and mean it. I hope things get better for you, and I'm sorry if I came across as kinda harsh.

On topic: I'm legit surprised Volts made it a week before she started trying to rope in as many people as possible to add to the cult. I would've given it half that considering the level of crazy displayed in this thread.
 
Alright. I'm sorry guys for that flip out. I had a domino effect of stress wham me like a semi yesterday. You guys weren't the only one I flipped out on, I also flipped on most of my friends and parents. Trying to patch stuff up still but figured to start some damage control here before things spiraled.

It was a shit move of me to publicly post that stuff. Luckily almost no one reads that blog. Took the stuff down even though you all got a picture of it. I don't need more people getting involved. Especially tumblr.

However I do need to try to slip a bit under the radar, so that I can keep any of this from biting me in the ass in real life. (Moreso than as I'm sick of my dad asking me over and over what happened.)

It's cool, just glad you realized that you made a mistake. That alone puts you way above most of the other Tumblrfolk we've had to deal with. And yeah if you feel that there's details you don't want to share, all you need to do is say so. People here won't harass you for more info.
 
Alright. I'm sorry guys for that flip out. I had a domino effect of stress wham me like a semi yesterday. You guys weren't the only one I flipped out on, I also flipped on most of my friends and parents. Trying to patch stuff up still but figured to start some damage control here before things spiraled.

It was a shit move of me to publicly post that stuff. Luckily almost no one reads that blog. Took the stuff down even though you all got a picture of it. I don't need more people getting involved. Especially tumblr.

However I do need to try to slip a bit under the radar, so that I can keep any of this from biting me in the ass in real life. (Moreso than as I'm sick of my dad asking me over and over what happened.)

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For the poly thing: Yeah, that happened. I proposed it, but Volts asked a couple people without my consent. That already made that "poly" last like a week. It meant nothing to me, but it did to Volts. idk if we have caps of them freaking out about that though. They mostly did it verbally. And you don't exactly have Audacity open to record Sound Mixer at all times. Kinda wish I did, though.

While I appreciate that you came back to clear the air, it's probably best (and you obviously agree) that you step out. I hope things improve for you.

And if it helps, I found your post by accident and connected the dots - I was searching 'kiwi farms' on tumblr to find something worth sharing in the Random Tumblr Posts thread :cool:
 
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