War Tucker & Guest Suggest Right Will Go Full Fascist Because Hunter Biden

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson put forth the bizarre argument on Thursday night that Hunter Biden is somehow to blame for imminent “actual extremism” in the country while agreeing with his guest that the obvious outcome is the right deciding to “pick a fascist” to lead in the near future.

During his primetime Fox News program on Thursday evening, Carlson brought up the recent Politico story about the bizarre 2018 case involving President Joe Biden’s son Hunter and his missing gun.

Besides noting the Secret Service’s supposed involvement at the time in investigating the incident, Carlson also touted one aspect of the story as proof of Democratic hypocrisy on gun laws and evidence that there’s a separate tier of justice for the younger Biden.

“Politico obtained the firearms transaction record and receipt for the gun,” Carlson said, adding: “And Hunter Biden was asked, as all gun buyers, are you addicted to or a user of unlawful substances. Of course, he was. He was booted out of the Navy for it. Everyone knew it. He lied about it. That’s a felony.”
Turning to his guest, far-right talk host Jesse Kelly, the Fox News star asked the pundit how he thought it would work out for him personally if he “lied on a federal gun form,” prompting Kelly to claim that he’d currently be in Fort Leavenworth.

“We both know how this works,” Kelly continued. “Rules for powerful Democrats and rules for people like you and I. This is what they do and people are sick of it. It’s making people feel hopeless. It feels like there is no justice out there. It feels as useless as going to a feminist rally and trying to find a woman who can cook.”

Following Kelly’s blatantly misogynistic analogy, Carlson replied: “I think you make a really solid point about the sadness and the powerlessness that people feel in the face of this.”
The primetime host, meanwhile, wondered aloud if the situation with Hunter Biden was going to result in American citizens deciding to ignore the legal system and laws of the country.

“At some point, people are going to say, ‘Why should I follow the rules? Why should I be a good citizen if they don’t have to follow the rules?’ I mean, things kind of break down at some point, don’t they?” Carlson asked his guest.

“They will break down,” Kelly exclaimed. “I have said this before and I’m telling you I’m worried that I’m right. The right is going to pick a fascist within ten to 20 years!”

Carlson interjected: “Right. That’s right.”
“Because they are not going to be the only ones on the outs,” Kelly continued, adding: “We are not a tiny minority. If we are all going to be treated like criminals and all subject to every single law while antifa and Black Lives Matter guys go free and Hunter Biden goes free, then the right is going to take drastic measures!”

Kelly concluded his point by claiming “nobody cares” about the president’s son’s drug use or other past behavior, instead insisting that it’s “about justice” and the need for Hunter Biden to be held accountable.

“So well put and absolutely right,” Carlson reacted. “We are moving toward actual extremism because they’re undermining the system that kept extremism at bay. I don’t think we can say that enough. I’m so glad that you just said it.”
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It's not a threat, Daily Beast. It's a warning. The Democrats don't realize the dangerous consequences of their "rules for thee, not for me" practices.

 

[Antipathy]

Is anyone "peacefully resisting?" I think most people are flat out ignoring this shit and hoping it will go away. They get angry or annoyed if you try to explain it to them.

I try to explain that actions have consequence and precedent + double standards are dangerous. That doesn't usually work. Mostly, the best way I've found to explain it is to go off on how racist Affirmative Action and the other unfair policies that do nothing but drive racial divide are: the fundamental assumption is that "niggers are too stupid/lazy to get ahead fairly, ergo let's give them free shit." Sure, it's dressed up in "generational trauma", etc, but the simple truth is that the people pushing these policies don't believe black people can succeed on an even playing field.

How many double standards, blatant bits of corruption (senators shorting hotel stocks after getting forewarned about COVID lockdowns, golden parachutes for the banks after 2008, etc. etc. etc.), and racist, unconstitutional, abhorrent policies need be enacted or pursued before people realize something is deeply wrong?

The Left is on an insane purity spiral and the Right has lost most of its balls to even bother standing up. Both sides ruthlessly fellate international corporations while choking the American people. How much longer before either Americans stand up, or all die?

Cancer doesn't go away if you ignore it, is what I tell everyone who bothers to listen to me.

 

[frozenrunner]

I'm interested in seeing how women's movements/feminists are going to react as the MTFs continue to trample their feet more and more in areas that they fought for and were once exclusively theirs. Obviously because these movements have always been pretty liberal.

It's going to be so great, and it will be entertaining no matter what they do.

If they turn against troons, the infighting between all the delusional shitlib groups will be deliciously vicious. If they "ally" with tranny encroachment into their "female spaces," we get to watch them grimace and virtuously lie while grown-ass men in dresses ruin the exclusive pity parties they've been throwing for themselves. And if they claim ignorance (like the progressive left did with "Islam is Right about Women"), they'll be steamrolled anyway.

The latter two choices will make them look conspicuously insane to normal people. And the first will force them to (partially) side with sanity even if they don't want to. I am getting my popcorn ready

 

[haurchefant]

I'm interested in seeing how women's movements/feminists are going to react as the MTFs continue to trample their feet more and more in areas that they fought for and were once exclusively theirs. Obviously because these movements have always been pretty liberal.

Pay closer attention, especially to places like Ovarit and Reddit after the pedo tranny was fired. People are already talking which indicates there's a big seething undercurrent that just needs a lit match. JK Rowling was just the start.

What trannies are actually doing is pushing for women into radical feminism and despising men even more, simply because of how easy it is to jump to "trannies are predators who are stealing from women" to "men in general are predators who hate women." And there are lots of useful idiots who do nothing except enforce this point of view.

 

[Meat Target]

I try to explain that actions have consequence and precedent + double standards are dangerous. That doesn't usually work. Mostly, the best way I've found to explain it is to go off on how racist Affirmative Action and the other unfair policies that do nothing but drive racial divide are: the fundamental assumption is that "niggers are too stupid/lazy to get ahead fairly, ergo let's give them free shit." Sure, it's dressed up in "generational trauma", etc, but the simple truth is that the people pushing these policies don't believe black people can succeed on an even playing field.

How many double standards, blatant bits of corruption (senators shorting hotel stocks after getting forewarned about COVID lockdowns, golden parachutes for the banks after 2008, etc. etc. etc.), and racist, unconstitutional, abhorrent policies need be enacted or pursued before people realize something is deeply wrong?

The Left is on an insane purity spiral and the Right has lost most of its balls to even bother standing up. Both sides ruthlessly fellate international corporations while choking the American people. How much longer before either Americans stand up, or all die?

Cancer doesn't go away if you ignore it, is what I tell everyone who bothers to listen to me.

There's a finite amount of bullshit you can foist upon people before they blow their stacks, and the Dems seem hellbent on going full throttle right now. At the state level, red states are trying to dig in (restrictions on troonery, 2A sanctuaries, Voter ID laws that have Stacey Abrams' making noises, etc).

Notice how liberals are denying that cancel culture exists, or trying to rationalize it, or resorting to whataboutism over it? It's because they know they're losing.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I try to explain that actions have consequence and precedent + double standards are dangerous. That doesn't usually work. Mostly, the best way I've found to explain it is to go off on how racist Affirmative Action and the other unfair policies that do nothing but drive racial divide are: the fundamental assumption is that "niggers are too stupid/lazy to get ahead fairly, ergo let's give them free shit." Sure, it's dressed up in "generational trauma", etc, but the simple truth is that the people pushing these policies don't believe black people can succeed on an even playing field.

How many double standards, blatant bits of corruption (senators shorting hotel stocks after getting forewarned about COVID lockdowns, golden parachutes for the banks after 2008, etc. etc. etc.), and racist, unconstitutional, abhorrent policies need be enacted or pursued before people realize something is deeply wrong?

The Left is on an insane purity spiral and the Right has lost most of its balls to even bother standing up. Both sides ruthlessly fellate international corporations while choking the American people. How much longer before either Americans stand up, or all die?

Cancer doesn't go away if you ignore it, is what I tell everyone who bothers to listen to me.

Nothing will ever change.

Look at this thread and how they froth at the mouth to scream "the left, the left, the left" when the simple truth is that the rich in the US get away with more then the poor. There is inequality and a system that is made to reward the haves and punish the have nots.

How ever that is not where people will put there effort instead they are going for meaningless bullshit. It is easier then having to fix the problems in the US.

 

[Antipathy]

There's a finite amount of bullshit you can foist upon people before they blow their stacks, and the Dems seem hellbent on going full throttle right now. At the state level, red states are trying to dig in (restrictions on troonery, 2A sanctuaries, Voter ID laws that have Stacey Abrams' making noises, etc).

Notice how liberals are denying that cancel culture exists, or trying to rationalize it, or resorting to whataboutism over it? It's because they know they're losing.

It's just what happened to the Religious Right. Dominance bred purity spiral and losing touch with Americans as more and more stupid ideological bullshit was pushed until eventually the house came down and the edgy, radical party with relatively moderate views took over, before it became a bloated meme as well.

Nothing will ever change.

Look at this thread and how they froth at the moth to scream "the left, the left, the left" when the simple truth is that the rich in the US get away with more then the poor. There is inequality and a system that is made to reward the haves and punish the have nots.

How ever that is not where people will put there effort instead they are going for meaningless bullshit. It is easier then having to fix the problems in the US.

Of course, every single person in the House, Senate, and Congress frantically shovels as much corporate cock in their mouths as they can to the detriment of the American people. The average American spends the most on healthcare and gets the worst of any first world nation. Due to cost-cutting, governmental laziness and corporate cuckery, America's COVID-19 response was abysmal, handling it worse than many other countries. Copyright law, debt, payment, name it, something has been stolen from Americans and given to the corpos and their lackeys.

But that doesn't mean that you should just accept some blatant fucking stupidity and corruption because it's propagated by both sides. You can oppose the Democrat and Republican parties and the sheer fucking insanity pushed by the Democrats makes me almost not hate the Republicans, despite the latter not even pretending to care about the American worker, so focused are they on sucking monopoly dick for loads of cash and child slave rewards.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Of course, every single person in the House, Senate, and Congress frantically shovels as much corporate cock in their mouths as they can to the detriment of the American people. The average American spends the most on healthcare and gets the worst of any first world nation. Due to cost-cutting, governmental laziness and corporate cuckery, America's COVID-19 response was abysmal, handling it worse than many other countries. Copyright law, debt, payment, name it, something has been stolen from Americans and given to the corpos and their lackeys.

But that doesn't mean that you should just accept some blatant fucking stupidity and corruption because it's propagated by both sides. You can oppose the Democrat and Republican parties and the sheer fucking insanity pushed by the Democrats makes me almost not hate the Republicans, despite the latter not even pretending to care about the American worker, so focused are they on sucking monopoly dick for loads of cash and child slave rewards.

I agree that it a problem and it should be fixed, but what i am pointing out is that it will not change as people are going for the easy ideological wins instead of things that can help.
Like i said look at this thread, it is not about in-equality, it is a worthless platitudes about gays, trannies, Democrats or any thing else.

Easy to digest sound bite strawmen, that are easy to knock over. Both sides are fighting ones another strawmen and nothing of value is achieved.

Things like a better access to higher education especially STEM, socialized health care and proper fucking wages for a days work. They all need to be fixed, but it is hard so people would rather scream about trannies and racists.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Things like a better access to higher education especially STEM,

The difficulty to get into STEM programs is ultimately the same as the difficulty to get into anything else at a given university, the variability being demonstrated aptitude. The goal must be increased productivity by whatever means the individual is most receptive, not shuttling everyone into university regardless of individual aptitude or even interest. Increasing tuition is also not being reigned in when you get more kids barely out of high school and no individual credit experience to speak of to take up thousands of dollars in debt to the feds or even private banks and universities have nothing but incentive to overspend on useless crap because they don't have to worry so badly about alienating potential customers students because of said lenders.

socialized health care

If you want socialized healthcare, be ready to accept more government overreach in an attempt to improve the health of the nation as to disencumber themselves from the costs of bankrolling healthcare for a severely unhealthy nation.

Also expect noticeable cutting from other services. No, the cutting won't be painless.

and proper fucking wages for a days work.

If you want "proper wages", you best be ready to pony up yourself instead of expecting small business to crumble or cheat the system (e.g higher wages * (less hours || less benefits || less people to cost them) = no net change while still following regulations). Not every business is Walmart, aubergine.

From my view, it seems like conservatives don't especially care about doing these things or are opposed to them for reasons related to the implications of their implementation, and liberals are more inclined to put supreme faith in the government to do whatever they think is necessary for the welfare of society without even bothering to assess what they can do individually or what will be demanded as sacrifice in order to actualize their desires.

 

[frozenrunner]

Look at this thread and how they froth at the mouth to scream "the left, the left, the left" when the simple truth is that the rich in the US get away with more then the poor. There is inequality and a system that is made to reward the haves and punish the have nots.

The rich by definition have more resources than the poor, and people with more resources have access to avenues the poorer do not. It has always been this way and will always be this way. It's why people want to be rich in the first place. And there will always be rich and poor.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I guess Trump 2024 is the stopgap between a fascist taking over the country or delaying it for a while depending on if he wins or loses in 2024. I believe its a given that Trump will run in 2024. DeSantis is a meme for now.

I'm gonna put on the history degree cap for a second, but I've brought up John Glubb and the Glubb Lifecycle of Empire thing before. America right at that the end point. Doesn't mean the USA is going away, but usually this means a slide down from massive power status. Except in one case and that case is the one Empire America closest resembles, so instead of looking for an American Fascist, you should probably be looking for an American Augustus. I don't know who that would even be, but I don't know how many people honestly thought Octavian was going to win that particular spat either.

People keep wanting to compare this to Germany and pisses me off a bit.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

From my view, it seems like conservatives don't especially care about doing these things or are opposed to them for reasons related to the implications of their implementation, and liberals are more inclined to put supreme faith in the government to do whatever they think is necessary for the welfare of society without even bothering to assess what they can do individually or what will be demanded as sacrifice in order to actualize their desires.

The crux of it is pure political sports. Nothing will happen and every one is payed by the people with money.
So both sides scream at one another and nothing will get fixed.

The rich by definition have more resources than the poor, and people with more resources have access to avenues the poorer do not. It has always been this way and will always be this way. It's why people want to be rich in the first place. And there will always be rich and poor.

Yes but you have created a system that punish the poor for being poor and give to the rich.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

Nothing will ever change.

Look at this thread and how they froth at the mouth to scream "the left, the left, the left" when the simple truth is that the rich in the US get away with more then the poor. There is inequality and a system that is made to reward the haves and punish the have nots.

How ever that is not where people will put there effort instead they are going for meaningless bullshit. It is easier then having to fix the problems in the US.

Attacking the left and corporations aren’t mutually incompatible but can, and should, go hand in hand. Imagine how much less shitty the country would be if the government was ruthlessly efficient about dealing with illegal aliens, banned financial aliens, cracked down on outsourcing of jobs, withheld funding from Oppression Studies and other useless academic shit, didn’t use Hollywood as propaganda, made our own products and tapped our own natural resources, killed off the cartoonishly evil intelligence community, stopped dumping money into the giant hole that is Europe’s military, yanked off Israel like the fucking leech it is, stopped paying evil women to have children out of wedlock, didn’t steal taxpayers money to pay Planned Parenthood to sacrifice children to Lilith, deals with Marxist and Black Power groups like the terrorist organizations they are. All of these are rightist issues and involve getting the government to do its fucking job properly and the left has a tantrum every single time someone brings it up.

 

[Scale Smerch]

I'm gonna put on the history degree cap for a second, but I've brought up John Glubb and the Glubb Lifecycle of Empire thing before. America right at that the end point. Doesn't mean the USA is going away, but usually this means a slide down from massive power status. Except in one case and that case is the one Empire America closest resembles, so instead of looking for an American Fascist, you should probably be looking for an American Augustus. I don't know who that would even be, but I don't know how many people honestly thought Octavian was going to win that particular spat either.

People keep wanting to compare this to Germany and pisses me off a bit.

If we really want to get into the weeds, the situation almost fits to a T Polybius' anacyclosis cycle, with US being in the late stages of democratic rule with brief flare ups of ochlocracy (i.e. mob rule). What comes after that is monarchy, so fully agreed it'll be an American Augustus more than a Hitler - although any such person will be more fascist than imperialist in terms of modern sensibilities and language. If anything they'll probably act a lot like Mussolini or Horthy.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Attacking the left and corporations aren’t mutually incompatible but can, and should, go hand in hand. Imagine how much less shitty the country would be if the government was ruthlessly efficient about dealing with illegal aliens, banned financial aliens, cracked down on outsourcing of jobs, withheld funding from Oppression Studies and other useless academic shit, didn’t use Hollywood as propaganda, made our own products and tapped our own natural resources, killed off the cartoonishly evil intelligence community, stopped dumping money into the giant hole that is Europe’s military, yanked off Israel like the fucking leech it is, stopped paying evil women to have children out of wedlock, didn’t steal taxpayers money to pay Planned Parenthood to sacrifice children to Lilith, deals with Marxist and Black Power groups like the terrorist organizations they are. All of these are rightist issues and involve getting the government to do its fucking job properly and the left has a tantrum every single time someone brings it up.

Why the fuck would the right do that? American farmers and businesses want the illegal aliens and they give money to your representatives so they turn a blind eye, outsourcing jobs is a non-issue any more as the damage is done and the returning business get nice kick backs in return for camping contributions to return, where after they hire some one like me to automate things.

The simple truth is. YOU and your mirror on the left is the reason America is losing it's way. The simple fact is you will never do any thing to fix it EVER!

 

[DeadFish]

I doubt it will turn it facism. Nationalist anarchist maybe. Not facism.

I say this because a decentralized response is only way any reactionary will succeed.

I also expect more cells of Christian doomsday death cults to spring up in the near future.

 

[Niggernerd]

that's not misogynistic at all, everyone knows feminist movements are perpetually dependent on fresh blood and that women born after 1993 can't cook

all they know is McDonald's, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip, and lie

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

If we really want to get into the weeds, the situation almost fits to a T Polybius' anacyclosis cycle, with US being in the late stages of democratic rule with brief flare ups of ochlocracy (i.e. mob rule). What comes after that is monarchy, so fully agreed it'll be an American Augustus more than a Hitler - although any such person will be more fascist than imperialist in terms of modern sensibilities and language. If anything they'll probably act a lot like Mussolini or Horthy.

I'd have actually guessed more Franco or Pinochet in a general sense, the American Right would want someone who will be religious, or respectful to religion, before they'll sign on. Not a fundie, but someone who won't actively shit on them. They'll want to be convinced the old democratic institutions are functioning, even if they have no real power.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

didn’t steal taxpayers money to pay Planned Parenthood to sacrifice children to Lilith

Hey, they sacrifice children to Moloch-- get it right.

Inaccuracy aside, you have a point. However, you're missing the key ingredient-- the mindful involvement of the citizen. The government isn't going to get off its ass to do something about this until we start paying attention to the actual people we're electing or even allowing to survive in the primaries and send in people that don't just say the right words, but will either make efforts at doing the will of the people that elected them or be sufficiently cowed by their refusal to vote for them again.

None of this even gets close to stopping until we stop enabling a pseudo-aristocracy where "nominal" is the typical state of voting.

American farmers and businesses want the illegal aliens and they give money to your representatives so they turn a blind eye

But the laborers suffer, which is why illegal immigration is a contention for the right in particular. Everyone's aware enough about the benefit of illegal labor for farmers and businesses-- they also believe that such benefit is gained at the cost of the welfare of lawful workers.

outsourcing jobs is a non-issue any more as the damage is done

You could say that about any issue we now face, but only if you were too lazy or unwilling to rack your brain in order to come up with a solution across any stretch of time.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

Why the fuck would the right do that? American farmers and businesses want the illegal aliens and they give money to your representatives so they turn a blind eye, outsourcing jobs is a non-issue any more as the damage is done and the returning business get nice kick backs in return for camping contributions to return, where after they hire some one like me to automate things.

The simple truth is. YOU and your mirror on the left is the reason America is losing it's way. The simple fact is you will never do any thing to fix it EVER!

The left itself outright states that class issues are Trumpist racist white male istophobic, and socialists generally agree because even the ones who claim they hate Woketards are too busy drinking the SJW Kool-Aid to want to unify the country. I never said Republicans are good. It’s your own fault for jumping to conclusions.

Hey, they sacrifice children to Moloch-- get it right.

Abortionists openly revere Lilith as their patron demon and they don’t bother hiding it. One of the second wavers openly referred to abortion as a sacrament. Literally just search for “Lilith feminism abortion,” “abortion sacrament,” something similar. People say that Epstein’s Satanic temple and the Bohemian grove are dedicated to Moloch because they both owl symbols, but that could just as easily refer to Lilith. Her name means screech owl, and infanticide and hedonism are things she’s supposed to be patrons of. Lilith isn’t a biblical demon at all (the closest equivalent would be Jezebel) but she’s pretty important in occultism.

Inaccuracy aside, you have a point. However, you're missing the key ingredient-- the mindful involvement of the citizen. The government isn't going to get off its ass to do something about this until we start paying attention to the actual people we're electing or even allowing to survive in the primaries and send in people that don't just say the right words, but will either make efforts at doing the will of the people that elected them or be sufficiently cowed by their refusal to vote for them again.

None of this even gets close to stopping until we stop enabling a pseudo-aristocracy where "nominal" is the typical state of voting.

You’re right. My post wasn’t meant to be an exhaustive list of how to fix America but some of the most common dissident right talking points that would directly improve things for working Americans.

 

[Meat Target]

People say that Epstein’s Satanic temple and the Bohemian grove are dedicated to Moloch because they both owl symbols

Bohemian Grove is just a secretive frat party where GOPe figures and corporate fatcats spend 2 weeks getting shitfaced