Opinion Trump’s antifa crackdown is actually pretty fascist

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Trump’s antifa crackdown is actually pretty fascist

President Donald Trump announced late Wednesday that he would designate antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. There’s just one problem—actually, several: antifa isn’t an organization; the far right commits far more political violence; and Trump likely doesn’t have the power to do it anyway.

“I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,” Trumpwrote on Truth Social. “I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices.”

A White House official doubled down, telling CNN the move was “one of many actions the president will take to address left-wing organizations that fuel political violence.”

But like many of Trump’s headline-grabbing pronouncements, it’s unclear how he could even pull this off. Antifa—short for “anti-fascist”—is a loose social movement, not a formal organization. There’s no leadership, membership rolls, or even a headquarters. The ADL notes that “because there is no unifying body for antifa, it is impossible to know how many adherents are currently active.” That makes it nearly impossible to know who, exactly, Trump is targeting.

The term antifa generally describes a broad set of people whose politics lean left—often far left—but whodon’t necessarily align with the Democratic Party platform. Some groups meet regularly in certain states, but there’s nothing resembling a national structure.

Even if Trump could find someone to target, the legal foundation for such a move is shaky at best. Only the secretary of state can designate foreign groups as terrorist organizations. There’s no parallel process for domestic groups. During Trump’s first term, Mary McCord, a former senior official at the Department of Justice, told Al Jazeerathat there was no procedure for “designating domestic organizations as terrorist organizations” and warned such efforts would raise “significant First Amendment concerns.”

This isn’t Trump’s first attempt to paint antifa as terrorist. Back in May 2020, during the nationwide protests over the police murder of George Floyd, he announced plans to make the designation and then-Attorney General Bill Barr said he’d treat antifa violence as domestic terrorism. But months later, FBI Director Chris Wraytold Congress that “antifa is an ideology, not a group or organization,” a statement which earned him a public rebuke from Trump.

And the data doesn’t back up Trump’s claims. Counterprotesters acting under the antifa banner havesometimes turned violent, but left-wing extremists account for a fraction of political violence in the U.S. Between 1975 and September 2025, right-wing extremists were responsible for 391 murders, according to the Cato Institute. Left-wing extremists were responsible for 65.

Trump’s new push comes in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s killing, which has set off a firestorm on the right. Even before the shooter was identified, prominent conservatives were calling for “war”against the left. A 22-year-old man has since been charged with murder, allegedly admitting in text messages that he killed Kirk because of his “hatred,” but his exact motive remains unclear. So far, there’s no evidence connecting him to antifa.

That hasn’t stopped Trump officials from signaling a broader crackdown. White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller said the administration plans to “channel all of the anger that we have over the organized campaign that led to this assassination, to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks.”

Trump, for his part, has floatedrevoking tax-exempt status for liberal nonprofits.

“Antifa is terrible. There are other groups,” Trump said Monday in the Oval Office. “We have some pretty radical groups, and they got away with murder,” he added, without offering any examples or evidence.

He also said he and Attorney General Pam Bondi have been discussing racketeering charges against left-wing groups he accuses of promoting violence.

“I’ve asked Pam to look into that in terms of RICO, bringing RICO cases,” Trump said. “They should be put in jail. What they’re doing to this country is really subversive.”

The crackdown doesn’t stop there. Bondi briefly suggested prosecuting“hateful speech” before backtracking. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has begun suspending military service members who posted negative comments about Kirk online. And Vice President JD Vance even encouraged Americans to call the employers of people who criticized Kirk in the wake of his death.

Designating any domestic group as a terrorist organization would be an unprecedented step and would almost certainly face legal challenges—but Trump has never let that stop him. All 219 terrorist groupsdesignated by the State Department are foreign entities, and there’s a reason for that: The law was designed to prevent U.S. presidents from wielding this power against their political opponents at home.

But Trump isn’t worried about the legal fight—he’s focused on the spectacle. Announce the most extreme solution, force everyone to react, and see what sticks. The courtroom isn’t his endgame: intimidation is.
 
it’s unclear how he could even pull this off. Antifa—short for “anti-fascist”—is a loose social movement, not a formal organization. There’s no leadership, membership rolls, or even a headquarters.
Can't you make that argument on every terrorist organisation composed on individual cells? You can't make an "ISIS Book Club" and not be investigated by the feds.

Also can't you make the exact argument on the KKK?
 
Considering that antifa is literally made up of the dregs of society, it is unironically a good thing they're getting dismantled.
Are they being dismantled? Please show me where this is happening. Trump seems to announce something that the whole of the right agrees with, but nothing really comes of it. His rhetoric about deporting illegals for example. I still see illegals crowded outside of Home Depot, for instance. The Mexicans clearly know something we don't. they aren't worried in the least. I just don't believe any of it. The whole "nothing ever happens" meme is spot on.
 
Extreme problems require extreme solutions. The Libtards in America and the rest of the West have gone so far to the extreme Left that it now requires everyone else to shift more and more to the Right to compensate and balance things out. The damage that the Left has done to our country and our culture is unlike anything anyone has seen since Weimar Germany. The death of patriotism and pride in country, millions of illegal aliens being allowed to invade our borders, the decline in education standards, the moral decay, the rampant crime, the degeneracy, the cultural erosion, the economic stagnation and collapse of the middle class, the unaffordable healthcare due to the "Affordable Healthcare Act", the rise of political violence and Leftist domestic terrorism, the political indoctrination in all levels of education, the infiltration of subversive anti-American cultural Marxists in every industry and field, the complete collapse of manufacturing and industry in the US, the profound weakening of the US military...and on and on and on. It is going to take a great effort and iron will to stamp out the Leftist poison that has been injected into the lifeblood of America.
 
As I wrote in the USPG thread, do you know why I hate this "antifa is just an idea bro wth"?

Because it's just another example of how lame yet blatant their lies are. If the gaslighting was elegant, I'd be less mad about it, because hey, it's not difficult to fall for smart psyops. But it's not even smart psyops. They really do think everyone is just as dense and accepting as they all are.

It's like the whole "how can you oppose Antifa? It just means anti fascism".
Yeah the van with FREE CANDY on it is just selling candy, what's wrong with going inside it, chud?

We all learn from a young age that people lie and use words in dishonest ways for their own ends, this is a lesson you learn before you've even hit puberty (if your parents are decent and you're not 80IQ or lower). They act like we don't figure out from a young age that what someone/something says isn't the die hard rule as a result. They really thought they could trick people with this basic BS. No wonder the left loves niggers so much.
 
ANTIFA’s not an organization. It’s just a bunch of people who get together with the agreed intention of coordinating as a group to achieve common objectives. If only there was a word that describes such an activity!

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the far right commits far more political violence
If you follow the links to the study used to justify this retarded claim, you end up at a paper that examines only ‘killings’ (not even purely murders).
Take into consideration that nonwhites are a) mostly Democrats, progressives or leftists and b) are less likely to be found guilty of politically motivated violence because the legal system handwaves away their racial animus or political motivations.
Then read the study limitations and realize the whole fucking thing is one big Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. Scientism and worthless biased crap from a shitlib academic.
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You're going to call him a fascist regardless, you've been doing it for a decade, so I'm afraid I don't give a shit. Total Trantifa Death.
 
Other things that are called fascist include:
Harry Potter
Star Wars
Role playing games
Super heros

Basically every popular thing in existence since forever

Fascism is really cool and everyone likes it, apparently.
 
Can't you make that argument on every terrorist organisation composed on individual cells?
It depends on the structure of the organization. Using your ISIS example is actually very prudent, because ISIS is about two dozen different groups across half the world, all with their own totally independent organization structures which all commit to the common goal of a Sunni global caliphate. It's compartmentalized. Antifa you can argue is very similar in that there are many, many totally independent cells with only incidental overlap between some of them. There is no Antifa grand wizard, there is no Antifa president, there is no Antifa war council. You cannot decapitate Antifa. What you would have to do is target each individual cell and hit those independently. There's also no membership requirements. Print out some stickers and put on a balaclava and boom, you're Antifa. Same way that some dude who reads some shit online, converts to Islam, and slams a truck into a parade can pledge his allegiance to ISIS with literally zero prior contact with members of ISIS. Your example of the Klan doesn't really work, because although after the 1915 reorganization of the Klan into local autonomous klaverns, there was a centralized command network, headed by the grand wizard. There is no grand wizard of Antifa. In order to join the Klan, you need to apply and be accepted.
example of how lame yet blatant their lies are.
See above. It's an organization in the same way that juggalos are a gang. There is no shot caller for the juggalos, there's no sergeant at arms ordering hits or keeping people in line, it's just a bunch of pieces of shit which recognize other pieces of shit as being aligned for the same purpose most of the time.
 
No it isn't. Antifa is a fascist organization* so combating it can't be fascist

*fascism doesn't seem to have a solid definition. To most, mussolini/hitler can be classed as fascists, but so can franco, despite the differences.

I think in modern thought, hitler is the prototypical archetype of a fascist. If he is the yardstick of fascism, then antifa is also fascist because it borrows so much from the hitlers ideas

Anyway, Trump isn't a fascist, never has been and is in fact so against fascism that fascists shot him and his supporters

I would like the author of this ad article to explain why Trump is a fascist for this, but Lincoln wasn't for doing the same thing
 
"NOOO! BUT MY NAME SAYS I AM A GOOD GUY I SWEAR!" - Joe, Member of the Anti-Pedo league, robbing a bank and raping a woman right after.
 
The Supreme Court already declared it unconstitutional. You can’t declare Westboro Baptist Church a terrorist organization, Obungo learned this lesson already. Trump will never learn this lesson because he’s a 79 year old toddler who wants to persecute anyone he dislikes because they say mean things about him.
The supreme court is wrong. There is already a legal precident for trumps actions

He's persecuting nazis and insurrectionists, he doesn't care what people say about him. He's not a nigger for crying out loud.

You also can't declare Westboro a terror organization because it doesn't have any makings of it. No violence or anything.

Compare this to antifa, who is constantly and extremely violent (see: holocaust)
 
JambledUpWords posts make me 100% less angry since she started using that hilarious avatar.
 
Designating any domestic group as a terrorist organization would be an unprecedented step and would almost certainly face legal challenges—but Trump has never let that stop him.
You know what else is unprecedented, you fucking faggot? A group of masked freaks who are well funded and magically show up with bricks and weapons.

Ya know that makes me think who the fuck is funding thedailykos?
 
If you follow the links to the study used to justify this retarded claim, you end up at a paper that examines only ‘killings’ (not even purely murders).
Take into consideration that nonwhites are a) mostly Democrats, progressives or leftists and b) are less likely to be found guilty of politically motivated violence because the legal system handwaves away their racial animus or political motivations.
Then read the study limitations and realize the whole fucking thing is one big Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. Scientism and worthless biased crap from a shitlib academic.
The right-wing violence also includes crimes committed for reasons that have nothing to do with ideology, such as a white nationalist beating his wife or white nationalist gang members killing a snitch.
 
Are they being dismantled? Please show me where this is happening. Trump seems to announce something that the whole of the right agrees with, but nothing really comes of it. His rhetoric about deporting illegals for example. I still see illegals crowded outside of Home Depot, for instance. The Mexicans clearly know something we don't. they aren't worried in the least. I just don't believe any of it. The whole "nothing ever happens" meme is spot on.
Have you done your civic duty by reporting them to ICE?
 
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