US Trump’s ads on trans issues are effective. Harris has herself to blame. - Orange Man Ads

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It’s hard to imagine a more niche issue than whether taxpayers should provide hormones and surgery for prisoners. A 2020 report from NBC found 4,890 transgender prisoners incarcerated in prisons across 45 states and D.C., a year in which 1.2 million people were incarcerated in state and federal prisons. Even if all of them had received surgery on the taxpayer dime (and the NBC report suggests that’s far from the truth), it would be a rounding error in our total spending on inmates.

So it’s kind of wild that the Trump campaign has posted on Instagram multiple ads attacking Kamala Harris using footage from a Transform the White House event in 2019, during which she talked up her efforts to secure surgeries for transgender prisoners. It’s part of a broader ad blitz that Trump and other Republicans have been running on trans issues in the closing weeks of the campaign. The tagline of the Trump ads is that Harris’s “agenda is they/them — not you.”

Could this possibly be effective, wondered an account I follow on X. After I watched the ads, I think that yes, they are. Not because many Americans lie awake at night wondering whether they’re paying for some prisoner’s vaginoplasty but because they help fill a void that Harris created with her cautious early campaigning.

Harris started out with some severe handicaps: low favorability, an unpopular boss and a history of taking positions so far to the left of the average voter that even her supporters tend to assume they’re conservative propaganda. The favorability problem has been mitigated with a charm offensive, but the other issues remain because Harris hasn’t given voters much to counteract them beyond a résumé and some vaguely aspirational language. I suspect that’s one reason her campaign seems to be flagging with the remaining undecided voters.

She could have addressed those problems head on by distancing herself from unpopular policies of President Joe Biden and from her own past pronouncements. Instead she tried to elide these deficits with a soft-focus campaign that seemed designed to avoid taking unpopular stands. Any backtracking was often accomplished by sending aides out to quietly spread the word.

That’s understandable. Throwing Biden under the bus would have raised administration hackles in the party, and if you try to explain why you’re abandoning your previous ideas, you’ll probably have to explain why you supported them in the first place. There’s some risk that in the course of executing such a hard pivot, you’ll bobble an interview, creating a viral moment that makes things worse. So the Harris campaign adopted a strategy of “least said, soonest mended.” It shunned journalists who might have asked inconvenient questions and crafted a message that was mostly vague uplift: Harris grew up middle class, she’s pragmatic, she loves America and small businesses and working families.

There’s nothing wrong with these platitudes, which are the verbal equivalent of a navy suit and red tie: attractive, inoffensive and ubiquitous. The problem is that like the navy suits, they are not distinctive and do not convey a sense of the person underneath the uniform.

Her supporters had no trouble conjuring an exciting figure from these wisps of sentiment. Kamala Harris was brat. She was the meme queen. She was joy. But if you were trying to figure out why you should vote for her — not just against Trump but for her — she hadn’t given you much to work with.
Voters want to know who politicians are. They know the 87-point policy plan will likely be changed or abandoned once in office, so they want to understand how politicians think and what they care about because that tells them what compromises politicians are likely to make and how they might react in unforeseen crises.

Donald Trump has given voters a clear picture of who he is and what he’s likely to do in office — a grimly unpresidential picture but at least one in sharp focus. Harris remains fuzzy by comparison. A former Obama official told the New Yorker’s Evan Osnos that his current firm spends tens of thousands of dollars every month on lobbyists and yet “all these fancy-pants people, former members of Congress, nobody can tell me conclusively what she believes about anything.”

The Harris campaign is asking swing voters to trade the devil they know for someone who seems less chaotic but also harder to read. Undecideds who aren’t content to fill in that hazy picture with memes about coconut trees will look for clues not in the heartwarming pablum of a stump speech but in what Harris has done and what causes she’s associated with.

For Harris, many of those cues are liabilities: She’s a California liberal associated with an unpopular administration. In a September New York Times poll, voters were significantly more likely to see Harris as too progressive than to see Trump as too conservative.

If that’s what you’re worried about, this ad is tailor made to reinforce your worst fears. Here is a picture of a convicted murderer; there is Harris bragging about how hard she worked to get prisoners surgery and about using “the power that I had” for “pushing forward the movement, frankly, and the agenda.”

Of course, you can argue that this is the only humane policy and that the ads are ugly and harsh. Which they are. But you have to be in a pretty thick political bubble not to understand that sex-reassignment surgery for murderers will strike a lot of people as insane. Though it probably isn’t an issue that many people vote on, it will make them wonder what other unpopular interest-group agendas Harris might push forward if they give her power. And because Harris hasn’t given them much sense of who she is and what she wants — other than the presidency — it’s hard for them to know where she’ll draw the line.
 
No it's an indictment on America. No other countries have major political parties campaigning around issues involved in mentally ill troons. Any country that even comes close is just infected by American troon brainrot thought.
Does devious Americans check notes creating transgenderism checks notes from Frankfurt Germany.
Does devious Americans checks notes creating postmodernism from people like Michelle Falcone man that sounds like a French name
 
How out of touch do you have to be to think this is acceptable. You got people struggling to pay for groceries and then you get faggot journos going "Oh that multi thousand dollar surgery and meds is just chump change"
They are the same type of person who thinks it is okay for only a handful of apartment buildings to be taken over by foreign invaders.

These people are out of their mind.
 
It really is an indictment of the human race that mentally ill sexual deviants are a significant political issue.

The tranny vote isn't even remotely important. It's perfectly acceptable to kick them to the curb and still get plenty of people on your side.

All the Harris campaign had to do was walk back on the troon nonsense and she would be doing better, but she keeps avoiding the subject.

I don't understand why it's such a problem because as I said, troons don't matter. I don't think a single normie voter has thought to themselves "I hope the trannies are ok this election".
 
The tranny vote isn't even remotely important. It's perfectly acceptable to kick them to the curb and still get plenty of people on your side.
And when the entire LGBT apparatus; the orgs, the rank/file and the big donors abandon you for abandoning fag causes? That is an acceptable strategy for the republicans, not for the party of tolerance.
 
Trump is using the same playbook that he's been using for the last decade, and the Dems still fall into the same traps. Their ability to defeat someone that they have consistently painted as an existential threat to the nation speaks more about the Dems than it does about Trump.
I've actually had this conversation a few times in the past couple of weeks with real life people. All of them have mentioned some variation on "If Trump is so bad, why don't democrats seem to care more about appealing to voters?" People have been sick of the "Trump bad" messaging, or are desensitized enough that they're noticing how lackluster Kamala is, and how little dems are doing to make themselves look like they're worth voting for.

Only one person in my area has ads talking about their policy accomplishments. Everyone else has just used some variation of "the other guy sucks", which doesn't make people want to vote - it just makes them think everyone running is worthless.

The general strategy looks like they want as few people voting as possible, because none of them have anything to offer average people.
 
I've actually had this conversation a few times in the past couple of weeks with real life people. All of them have mentioned some variation on "If Trump is so bad, why don't democrats seem to care more about appealing to voters?" People have been sick of the "Trump bad" messaging, or are desensitized enough that they're noticing how lackluster Kamala is, and how little dems are doing to make themselves look like they're worth voting for.

Only one person in my area has ads talking about their policy accomplishments. Everyone else has just used some variation of "the other guy sucks", which doesn't make people want to vote - it just makes them think everyone running is worthless.

The general strategy looks like they want as few people voting as possible, because none of them have anything to offer average people.
This feels kind of how Merkel run her election campaigns. She actually had a strategy of "voter demotivation" so that not many voters would vote. Her own base would still vote for her resulting in her party gaining a bigger amount of seats as the other parties voters were demotivated to go to vote.

But it really feels like the voters are oversaturated with the message "Trump is bad". Heck maybe some people might even look closer and realioze "huh. what is so bad about this guy?". I mean the simplest way would be "What bad thing has Trump actually done in his 4 years of presidency (well except listening to Faucci for too long)?" Trump is more like a loudmouth who goes to sleep when he gets a small victory. Just like the borderwall? What did he actually got? A new shiny FENCE.
 
And when the entire LGBT apparatus; the orgs, the rank/file and the big donors abandon you for abandoning fag causes? That is an acceptable strategy for the republicans, not for the party of tolerance.
Most faggots not so secretly hate trannies. I don't mean the LGB alliance type, I mean your run of the mill fag with basic TDS is still repulsed by "gay" pooners, AGPs and aged faggots who trooned out after twink death.
 
Most faggots not so secretly hate trannies. I don't mean the LGB alliance type, I mean your run of the mill fag with basic TDS is still repulsed by "gay" pooners, AGPs and aged faggots who trooned out after twink death.
And lesbians hate gays
And gays hate lesbians
And both hate bisexuals
But when the chips are down and straights are saying: "Maybe we shouldn't teach ass sex and carpet munching to the elementary schoolers" they come together to scream bigot.
 
How out of touch do you have to be to think this is acceptable. You got people struggling to pay for groceries and then you get faggot journos going "Oh that multi thousand dollar surgery and meds is just chump change"
It's also factually incorrect.

To house a prisoner for an entire year it costs (roughly) 40k-100k. Let's say it's 50k and say that the budget is now $60 billion dollars (50k x 1.2 million prisoners)

"Gender Affirming" care costs roughly 100k. Let's assume that all of them (4890 of them) got 100k worth of care, which is $489,000,000 fucking dollars. Which makes it (roughly) 1% of the budget - which is not a fucking rounding error. It's a substantial portion of the budget.

An average prison holds ~200 people - using our 50k per prison budget from above - the "Gender Affirming Care" could actually fund another Twenty Five Full Prisons.
 
An overwhelming majority of voters surveyed said they believe transgender people “deserve to be treated with dignity and respect,” including 86 percent of Democrats, 78 percent of independents and 58 percent of Republicans.
When did "dignity and respect" become "pay for all your stupid shit?"

If you want to wear a dress and work at walmart, be my guest. Still going to laugh at the freak, though.
 
The tranny vote isn't even remotely important. It's perfectly acceptable to kick them to the curb and still get plenty of people on your side.



I don't understand why it's such a problem because as I said, troons don't matter. I don't think a single normie voter has thought to themselves "I hope the trannies are ok this election".
It matters on the social media Democrats use, in the corporations they work in, and in the schools they went to...and then they confuse these bubbles with real life.

It's a weird issue from a political perspective. For the most part, nobody but weirdos like us gives a fuck. But, if you force people to give a fuck and really openly debate the topic then the vast majority will land closer to the republican position. It's absurd that Harris and Biden were NEVER forced into a corner in a town hall, debate, or interview to answer real questions on this stuff.

"VP Harris, a girl named Layla Jane suffered from gender-confusion, suicidal feelings and eating disorders from childhood, and when she heard about transgenderism at eleven-years-old she decided she was a boy and asked to be called Kyle. Doctors initially said they could not give her cross-sex hormones and ‘sex swap’ surgery because she was too young. But other medics argued against an age limit and gave her puberty blockers and testosterone at twelve-years-old, followed by a double mastectomy just months later. She has now launched a lawsuit because she regrets the decision. How can Democrats support performing these procedures on children who we all know might come to regret the decision and how can Democrats support schools or doctors hiding transgender identity from parents who are best positioned to know if the child is likely to change their mind?"

Not to mention questions about the variance between male and female sports performance, and a LOT Of other questions.

These questions CAN'T be satisfactorily answered and it is INSANE that Democrats are pushing forward with legal policies supporting child transition and men in women's sports anyway. That's the potential political power of this issue. It shows that Democrats are completely insane, so how can you trust them on stuff that matters like the economy or foreign policy? They live in a fantasy world.
 
An overwhelming majority of voters surveyed said they believe transgender people “deserve to be treated with dignity and respect,”
When I think of troons, I think of "dignity" lol.
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New polling from a left-leaning firm shows a majority of voters see a recent wave of campaign ads targeting transgender student-athletes and gender-affirming health care as “mean-spirited,” and the ads could be backfiring.

More than half of voters surveyed this month by Data For Progress said political attack ads targeting the trans community have gotten “out of hand” — including nearly a third of Republicans, whose candidates are largely responsible for the ads.

Just more than 60 percent of surveyed voters, including a majority of independents and 41 percent of Republicans, said it is “sad and shameful” for GOP candidates to make anti-LGBTQ rhetoric a part of their campaigns, according to the poll, which was released Thursday.
Well, I hate trannies and often vote for Republicans. And yes, they are out of hand. Not because I disagree with them, but because really, are trannies supposed to be this country's number one issue right now? Why aren't they talking about the economy more? Inflation? WHY ARE THE GROCERY STORES AND RESTRAUNTS ALL CLOSED AT 11, I WORK SECOND SHIFT YOU ASSHOLES!!!!!!!

I’d like to know how many people they polled for this. Nothing in this article tells you how many people they polled, but I guess it is likely at most 1,000
If it is 1000 thats a pretty huge number for a poll and they should be congratulated on going over the top like that.
 
Their ability to defeat someone that they have consistently painted as an existential threat to the nation speaks more about the Dems than it does about Trump.
I keep having to argue with people that nothing the Dems have done to attack Trump is working and yet they keep doing it.

Of course, I was told it was "deep state" thinking to say both sides are just as corrupt. Which, is stupid if you think about it. I don't need the deep state to tell me that one side would be handily dominating the other if the other side always played nice and did the right thing.
 
You should be castrated for excusing deplorable, degenerate wastes of money, journoscum.
It's funny because I thought the prison population is a huge issue. It's supposed to be the highest rate of all first world countries due to poor black people being unfairly discriminated against. But now it seems the population isn't actually that high at all, in fact it's so low that they can all get expensive sex change surgeries and nobody should worry about the cost because it's so incredibly low. Which one is it?
 
Of course, I was told it was "deep state" thinking to say both sides are just as corrupt.
I don't know how that can be "deep state" thinking when it's been obvious for decades how much power corporations and lobbyists have over both parties in the US. The trans issue has gotten as far as it has entirely on some powerful backers with money, lobbyists, and a vocal group of useful idiots in the right places.

When activists (disingenuously) point at how small the trans population is to say these changes don't affect anyone much, it just makes it more obvious how disproportionate their power over policy has been.
 
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