Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

You would need a bullet proof vest to enjoy the fun.
I'm sure he shoots better than most of the hicks. Hardly any of them even go hunting anymore.
Refusing to vote for diarrhea over vomit isn't giving up. Holy cope.

I'll never understand you goyim who think it is your civic duty to vote for a pedophile who wants you dead.
Do you not also have non-presidential elections in the USA? You can vote lesser evil in the big election, then participate in civics by voting for non-retards in municipal or state elections, or even by attending meetings/townhalls and writing letters to representatives.
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I dunno man, a small percentage of child trannies versus runaway Trumpflation on rent, groceries, and gas. It’s going to be an easy choice for dozens of millions of people.
The morally correct answer to that is runaway Trumpflation. Unfortunately, Trump is also a fan of child trannies with parental consent, just like he is adult trannies and faggots.
 
I don't vote for evil. Lesser or otherwise.

I do vote in local elections that are worth voting on. My town is too small and irrelevant to have major money fully corrupting it.
Agreed, having served a Lesser Evil in a official capacity in a small town, non-elected. Never have I seen such corruption, even on a local scale. Unfortunately, ABC Coke, the biggest furnace coke plant in the US is within the city limits. The city is barely livable, heavily polluted, in fact a politician went to jail for fraud involving preventing the EPA from cleanup and restoration. ABC Coke runs the town.
Corruption will never allow the city to be livable.

A vote for the lesser evil, is still a vote for evil.
 
On elections, I see lots of strange beliefs about elections and I think most of them don't really hold up. One of them is the whole case I've talked about elsewhere on the site of our cult of majorities in modern America, people thinking that simple majorities are what makes democratic rule representative and fair specifically (because it's intuitive and obvious at a small scale, even though it doesn't really scale up past a few people).

A lot of people really do seem to think that they effect elections in some kind of spiritual way if not literally. Political science/economy used to have trouble with this because you'd get these retard autists making models where every voter is a rational self-interested utility maximizer and then it'd be a puzzle why anybody votes even though common sense and just talking to people explains it, people feel moral obligations to vote. But when you listen to them talk, a lot seem to implicitly think that it's not just a symbolic act or moral responsibility, it's like some gay sportsball shit where they feel like they somehow, individually, effected the outcome. Note that this never goes the other way.

The whole "you can't complain if you don't vote" one is another one that annoys me, because it's ass-backwards. You can't complain if you DO vote. You voting is giving your blessing to the system. This govt is going to exist either way, it's going to force me to live under its laws either way, participating is what marks the difference between a thing you consented to - including living by the consequences of your side losing - not the man who suffers it, protests but doesn't pretend at any point it's held up by anything other than raw force. Or "muh soldiers died for your right to vote." The last time they died for MY right to vote was in 17-fucking-76, if we count essentially defensive wars that weren't of choice 1812. The most recent and large scale time the US Army was deployed on my soil was 160 years ago to violently disband my government and occupy and destroy the land.

That one especially pisses people off, I think because punching a big hole in the cult of democracy - something that like all legitimating ideologies depends on being indoctrinated into it from birth - does land with them, and it raises the specter that the world is fundamentally unjust, which is a scary thought, especially for the non-religious (or people that have fused their religiosity with statism of some sort).

To me there is no case whatsoever for voting "strategically." Whether we're talking about "wasting" a vote (again, magical thinking) on third parties, voting for candidates you don't genuinely like, not voting for spoilers, etc. You subject it to two basic tests. Do you determine the actual outcome? No. "Swing Vote" is a comedy movie, not real life. And then, what would happen if everyone voted the way you did? Your side would win.

And like most of you have said, I don't see the lesser of two evils as being inherently better. For one, I think (again, very much against the spirit of our culture) that people should and don't judge things with the gravity of assuming that they are morally responsible for their actions, because they ARE. If you aren't willing to take up a rifle, evict a family of braceros, collect taxes, guard prisons, etc. then you have no business putting that work onto somebody else. That's what American democracy offers: you get all the credit and warm feels for picking winners and you never have to lose, never have to bear anything on your conscience. Never in my life have I ever heard anybody express actual shame or personal regret at having voted for a politician that turned out to be a stinker, only anger. You don't see it with me because I went through this test twelve years ago and I decided I wasn't going to vote. And voting for no evil can absolutely create good outcomes. Sinking your party can teach your party a lesson that it needs to change its course. Why would it ever if you don't hold it accountable? We have tons of examples within American history of parties going off the rails, crashing and burning and then the voters got what they wanted an election cycle or two later when a new party had to be constituted around the new underlying coalitions. Republicans are a prime example, the Whigs couldn't deliver anti-slavery politics consistently and got eaten by their base.

Anyways I guess what I'm saying is fuck normalfaggots. I haven't actually read him yet but I think my views on it are similar to Lysander Spooner, and he too had a habit of pissing people off by justing being... very morally consistent (supported the Confederates, supported slave revolt at the same time; was willing to separate entangled moral issues out instead of compromising any of them for the sake of others).
 
I don't vote for evil. Lesser or otherwise.

I do vote in local elections that are worth voting on. My town is too small and irrelevant to have major money fully corrupting it.
I disagree, people refusing to vote is how we got the fat child rapist with dementia as president.
 
Local politics generally have more of an impact on your life than national politics. However most local elections these days end up being referendums on the national elections.

I’m an oldfag and have seen enough elections to where all alternatives suck: voting for the lesser evil, staying home, or voting for a third party. Every one of those are going to be flawed and I can respect the disagreements and the logic behind the alternatives. My original point is that a comfortable majority of Americans are impacted more by Trumpflation than by trannies. It’s going to be an easy choice in November, even if they don’t approve of trannies. More people have been fucked over by miggerism these past 18 months.
 
This isn't crazy. I absolutely believe Trump has bears hidden in a tunnel.
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Nah running a retarded female nigger nobody - even Democrats - liked is how we got orange pedo.

Also, she wouldn't have been much different.
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Yeah some boring lady who does nothing except minor corporate shilling would be just as bad as what you have now, absolutely. Getting shot outside the mall is just as bad as getting into the car with the serial killer, this has been proven so many times.
I disagree, people refusing to vote is how we got the fat child rapist with dementia as president.
Exactly. I don't like this incel mindset of refusing to do any work inside the borders of your country after you've been given the ability to do so by men who died in some pretty fucked up ways outside of it.
Remember the dad joke: How do you eat an elephant? One piece at a time.
None of us are getting any dessert until we finish our elephant so just suck it up and take a bite.
 
after you've been given the ability to do so by men who died in some pretty fucked up ways outside of it.
'freedom' guaranteed by what? Occupying Haiti for most of the last hundred years? Illegally invading Hawaii? The destruction and enslavement of the Philippines?
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The murder of millions of Germans for the jews? The murder of millions of Vietnamese people, and the deliberate poisoning of their nation because they wanted to be ruled by Vietnamese communists not American kikelovers?
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I suppose those gooks and Haitians and Flips were going to launch a military invasion of Ammurica if they weren't stopped, right? Oh wait... the jews and corrupt gentile capitalists behind all those wars brought them to your nation as cheap labor anyway.

No, all those things are reasons why Ammurica must be destroyed.
 
'freedom' guaranteed by what? Occupying Haiti for most of the last hundred years? Illegally invading Hawaii? The destruction and enslavement of the Philippines?
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The murder of millions of Germans for the jews? The murder of millions of Vietnamese people, and the deliberate poisoning of their nation because they wanted to be ruled by Vietnamese communists not American kikelovers?
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I suppose those gooks and Haitians and Flips were going to launch a military invasion of Ammurica if they weren't stopped, right? Oh wait... the jews and corrupt gentile capitalists behind all those wars brought them to your nation as cheap labor anyway.

No, all those things are reasons why Ammurica must be destroyed.
Speaking more in a general sense about the developed world, not moralizing on recent initiatives.
I saw an internet outrage recently where some youtuber did a bio video on a scientist and tumblr types were all offended because said scientist had built artillery for WWI or earlier so I think sometimes younger people forget how the safe modern world was created in the first place.
And, you know, we wouldn't have all these retarded modern-day proxy non-wars if people had been leaving the house to participate in their own country's civic machine. As it stands now the situation is like the plumbing under a dishpit that hasn't been wiped down for ten years and cleaning it up is going to be hell because the 20 dishwashers who worked there before you did zero regular maintenance.
 
Nah running a retarded female nigger nobody - even Democrats - liked is how we got orange pedo.

Also, she wouldn't have been much different.
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Yeah, she wouldn't be too different politically, but would she have invaded Iran on the behest of her master in Tel Aviv? I really, really doubt it. The KKK party is becoming increasingly anti-zionist. Every single non-AIPAC funded senator are members of that party, except for Massie (R) and Reddit Sanders (I). Young liberals and conservatives despise that country and what they've done to 30% of their population.
 
Yeah, she wouldn't be too different politically, but would she have invaded Iran on the behest of her master in Tel Aviv? I really, really doubt it. The KKK party is becoming increasingly anti-zionist. Every single non-AIPAC funded senator are members of that party, except for Massie (R) and Reddit Sanders (I). Young liberals and conservatives despise that country and what they've done to 30% of their population.
All we have to go on is her word, and even when she didn't have to, when it would've benefited her in terms of voter turnout for her own side to shut her fuckin mouth about it, she chose to bow to Israel and call Iran the greatest threat there is to the world that absolutely under no circumstances should have nuclear weapons. Besides Epstein, which don't get me wrong - is MASSIVE - and Trump is 100% guilty, there wouldn't have been much difference. And I guarantee Kamala wouldn't have done shit to Trump about Epstein, just like Trump didn't do shit to Hillary the "good person who has been through enough" when he had the chance to. It's all bullshit.
 
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Guys who fought the wendigo every year called him a worthy opponent, I think they understand the concept of losing a war and becoming a new ethnicity. Don't worry about them.
Yeah, it’s not like he was brutal by Iroquois standard, town destroying is the name of the game. No civilians in primitive war.The Iroquois had a lovely seasonal sport of going down to Cherokee country to capture Cherokees to burn alive and likewise have the same done to them on the return trip.

There is a case to be made the Iroquois directly inspired parts of the Constitution even though the Founders themselves hated them and wouldn’t let on about it. The concept of bicameral legislature balancing large and small states comes up directly in the form of a rule that decisions had to pass by a majority of the three small tribes and one of the two large tribes, so neither a coalition of the two large nor three small could exploit the other. The Iroquois and Cherokee - related directly - were genuinely brilliant people.
 
Local politics generally have more of an impact on your life than national politics. However most local elections these days end up being referendums on the national elections.

I’m an oldfag and have seen enough elections to where all alternatives suck: voting for the lesser evil, staying home, or voting for a third party. Every one of those are going to be flawed and I can respect the disagreements and the logic behind the alternatives. My original point is that a comfortable majority of Americans are impacted more by Trumpflation than by trannies. It’s going to be an easy choice in November, even if they don’t approve of trannies. More people have been fucked over by miggerism these past 18 months.
For myself Trump has made me angry enough I might ironically cast a vote for the opposition out of pure spite.
 
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