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[Gehenna]

I wish to update something I said prior.

Whatever neuro-degenerative disease Biden has is -aggressive-.

Just comparing how he started the democratic nomination process to how he is now is like looking at night and day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbOU2fTg6cI This was his announcement. Scripted, but he keeps his speech patterns consistent and doesn't stutter his words.

Compare this to anything he has done lately, scripted or unscripted.

 

[AprilRains]

Crap. Rapid progression here is really bad news. Democrat, Republican, or whatever, I don't think any American wants to see a frontrunner candidate for a major party in this situation.

 

[Gehenna]

Crap. Rapid progression here is really bad news. Democrat, Republican, or whatever, I don't think any American wants to see a frontrunner candidate for a major party in this situation.

I don't want to see any person in this situation. But after your and my little discussion I started digging up clips to see if I could track is conditions trajectory. Beginning signs started showing about mid 2018, and we went over the course of a year and a half to what I'd deem mid-stage. That is.... an aggressive case to say the least.

 

[AprilRains]

I don't want to see any person in this situation. But after your and my little discussion I started digging up clips to see if I could track is conditions trajectory. Beginning signs started showing about mid 2018, and we went over the course of a year and a half to what I'd deem mid-stage. That is.... an aggressive case to say the least.

Based on the video you just provided and what I've seen since, I can only concur. This terrifies me. And I find it far too plausible that the DNC will try to hide this from the voters.

 

[Flexo]

Crap. Rapid progression here is really bad news. Democrat, Republican, or whatever, I don't think any American wants to see a frontrunner candidate for a major party in this situation.

You know at this point I'm starting to wonder if Trump made a deal with a gypsy...

Or he really IS sucking the life force from his enemies.

 

[Gehenna]

Based on the video you just provided and what I've seen since, I can only concur. This terrifies me. And I find it far too plausible that the DNC will try to hide this from the voters.

As much as it pains me, I'll need to defend the DNC here.

The DNC is not in charge of who runs, and Biden being the frontrunner was a given. As VP under Obama he has the most experience of anyone in the field, and until fairly recently was at least fairly good at making his points understood.

 

[AprilRains]

As much as it pains me, I'll need to defend the DNC here.

The DNC is not in charge of who runs, and Biden being the frontrunner was a given. As VP under Obama he has the most experience of anyone in the field, and until fairly recently was at least fairly good at making his points understood.

That's not addressing what I actually said. I am saying that once they are aware of this situation (and surely they are), I believe they will act to conceal it, hoping that they can get away with that for long enough to win the election. That concerns me.

 

[Gehenna]

That's not addressing what I actually said. I am saying that once they are aware of this situation (and surely they are), I believe they will act to conceal it, hoping that they can get away with that for long enough to win the election. That concerns me.

Two things:
The DNC probably didn't know about it. While we have all snarked about it, the really worrying shit is recent.

Second, they... haven't made any motions to hide it. Look at CNN for examples of pivoting to how Warren can totally be a viable candidate and them floating Hillary 2020.

The DNC, in short, is actively trying to find new candidates to push past Biden.

 

[AprilRains]

I don't claim the DNC knew before. Again, you are addressing things I didn't say as if in rebuttal. Stop that.

As for whether they'll try to hide it, I think it depends on when they begin acknowledging it internally. They certainly acted to hide Hillary's health issues in 2016, and it is on that basis that I think they may try to do the same here, once they realize what's happening. It also depends on whether they think they can still switch horses. There was no way to switch from Hillary in 2016. I'm not sure how they'll weigh it now.

 

[Ruin]

I don't claim the DNC knew before. Again, you are addressing things I didn't say as if in rebuttal. Stop that.

As for whether they'll try to hide it, I think it depends on when they begin acknowledging it internally. They certainly acted to hide Hillary's health issues in 2016, and it is on that basis that I think they may try to do the same here, once they realize what's happening. It also depends on whether they think they can still switch horses. There was no way to switch from Hillary in 2016. I'm not sure how they'll weigh it now.

I'm sure they'll try but I can't see the media successfully hiding Biden's health issues since last year he sounded basically normal. At his current extremely rapid rate of degeneration he'll be dead or hospitalized by November 2020.

 

[AprilRains]

I hope Gehenna is right that the DNC is trying to promote other candidates. That is one way to read some of what's happening. I'm mainly worried because of what I saw the DNC do in 2016.

 

[X Prime]

Why would they promote other candidates?

Consider the idea that they may be angling to sneak a more odious VP into the Presidential slot through the back door. Someone like Abrams, who would never win a headliner presidential ticket in a million years.

I mean, heck, it worked for LBJ.

 

[Gehenna]

I hope Gehenna is right that the DNC is trying to promote other candidates. That is one way to read some of what's happening. I'm mainly worried because of what I saw the DNC do in 2016.

Biden has nowhere near the leverage Hillary did to pull that off. Hillary had decades of connections, blackmail, double-dealings, and favors. She had spent every single minute of the period Bill went into office in CONGRESS to the point she ran in 2016 preparing the road for what she needed and SPENT it.

Why do you think that. after she lost the 2016 election, suddenly Bill Clinton was persona non grata for the very things he was well known for having done prior? Why do you think Hillary only got token praise for her book? And did you not notice that for a good 2 years Hillary Clinton was suddenly criticized from about mid 2016-mid 2018?

The only reason Hillary Clinton is in vogue now is because the democratic primaries have been a shit show. Of the main candidates (Biden, Warren, Harris, Sanders, and a revolving door in the fifth slot), none of the fifth slot people are viable, Sanders is not viable after he kissed ring to Hillary, Harris has a record of absolute horror and has a sevre likability problem, Warren is Sander's Platform without the honesty (And she has extreme baggage due to the Indian thing), which only ever really left Biden.

Biden, the straight white male in the election right after the last candidate was a woman and the last PRESIDENT was a black man. Biden, the man who is older than Trump. Biden, the man known for being a big of a gaffe master but who was... mostly eloquent? But something is off now...

Before anything had occurred, the DNC and the Democratic Establishment knew their frontrunner was going to have big issues and that there was no one behind him who posed a significant threat to Trump without a lot of glamorizing. So, suddenly, all of a sudden, even with an environment that involves the death of Epstein and conformation Bill had been on the Lolita express... Nothing. Crickets. No MENTION of Bill or Hillary. Because the establishment needed their backup. If they can't raise one of the contenders up then they back Hillary and hope she does run again.

And so what happened? Biden is degrading, not just as a candidate but with something neurological. Warren and Harris both got kicked by Tulsi, and the establishments protection of Warren did more damage than help.Everyone below them, sanders and the revolving door, were never viable due to the establishment pressing their thumb on the scales to ensure none of them would have a chance to get the good debate performance needed to push them past it.

Biden is -not- viable, if he goes against Trump there is an 100% chance of trump's victory. The DNC won't back a horse destined to lose. Their only choices are to push Warren past the damage or to bring on their desperate backup.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Tinfoil hat with one layer: The DNC is fully aware of Biden's degenerating mental state, and is going forward with him steadily losing it in public to garner sympathy votes when they pull the planned VP candidate switcharoo.

Tinfoil hat with extra layers and it's all scrunchy and has a stupid shape up at the top: The DNC is actually causing Biden's degenerating mental state on a schedule with timed injections of something so that they can pull this off according to their timetable, and instead of withdrawing because of the dementia he'll drop dead sometime in early October.

 

[Gehenna]

Tinfoil hat with one layer: The DNC is fully aware of Biden's degenerating mental state, and is going forward with him steadily losing it in public to garner sympathy votes when they pull the planned VP candidate switcharoo.

Tinfoil hat with extra layers and it's all scrunchy and has a stupid shape up at the top: The DNC is actually causing Biden's degenerating mental state on a schedule with timed injections of something so that they can pull this off according to their timetable, and instead of withdrawing because of the dementia he'll drop dead sometime in early October.

The DNC is not stupid.

I know, I know, controversial statement. Let me explain. They are not stupid, but they are corrupt and COMPLETE ideologues. There is no way they are going to deliberately run a terrible presidential candidate just to have them have a VP they want, because they know the terrible candidate will lose.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

The DNC is not stupid.

I know, I know, controversial statement. Let me explain. They are not stupid, but they are corrupt and COMPLETE ideologues. There is no way they are going to deliberately run a terrible presidential candidate just to have them have a VP they want, because they know the terrible candidate will lose.

Why wouldn't they? Last election displayed the complete disdain they have for their own party's primary process, such a plan would allow them to neatly bypass that. And it's not as if the DNC leadership has anything vaguely like scruples or humanity, they'd absolutely exploit someone's illness and make the last year of their life a sideshow if they thought it would get them a few thousand sympathy votes and knock Trump off his game.

 

[Gehenna]

Why wouldn't they? Last election displayed the complete disdain they have for their own party's primary process, such a plan would allow them to neatly bypass that. And it's not as if the DNC leadership has anything vaguely like scruples or humanity, they'd absolutely exploit someone's illness and make the last year of their life a sideshow if they thought it would get them a few thousand sympathy votes and knock Trump off his game.

Last election cycle, they had a viable candidate. Biden is -not- viable. What is being proposed is not the DNC rigging their side of the election in favor of their candidate winning. It is rigging the election on their side to put someone up who WILL lose, so they can put a VP next to them who.... would lose with them.

The elections focus on the person going for the President slot. Not the VP. Their frontrunner candidate has to be someone they think will win, otherwise there is literally no point to anything. Its nonsensical to say "The DNC wants this COMPLETELY UNWINNABLE candidate to get the nomination so they can slap their Super Special VP on to them".

 

[Shaka Brah]

You know at this point I'm starting to wonder if Trump made a deal with a gypsy...

Or he really IS sucking the life force from his enemies.

Maybe Alex Jones was right and all the mainstream Democrats have the kuru prion from child sacrifice.

 

[Flexo]

The DNC is not stupid.

I know, I know, controversial statement. Let me explain. They are not stupid, but they are corrupt and COMPLETE ideologues. There is no way they are going to deliberately run a terrible presidential candidate just to have them have a VP they want, because they know the terrible candidate will lose.

The problem is... complete ideologues eventually become stupid. Because when the group selection process is adding/losing members, eventually there will come a point where you have a member who is intelligent, but not sufficiently pure. If the group is too ideological, they will force that member out, thus leading to a steady decline in the group's intelligence.

How far along the DNC is in this process? I dunno.

 

[Gehenna]

The problem is... complete ideologues eventually become stupid. Because when the group selection process is adding/losing members, eventually there will come a point where you have a member who is intelligent, but not sufficiently pure. If the group is too ideological, they will force that member out, thus leading to a steady decline in the group's intelligence.

How far along the DNC is in this process? I dunno.

Ideologues do stupid things, but are not necessarily stupid. An example:

Susan is asked to hire several people, the roster she gets is full of people with varying degrees of experience and she picks the best one for the job.

Now, add a detail.
Susan is a feminist who is asked to hire several people. the roster is full of people with varying experience. She picks those who are best for the job, after excluding those who are not women.

This is a stupid move, but is not done because Susan IS stupid. Ideologues do run on a train of logic, if you know what the train of logic is you can pretty easily predict what they will do. Hell, vast sections of the farms run on people doing just that.