UN Trump blocks Pelosi trip as shutdown tensions mount

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...as-shutdown-tensions-mount-idUSKCN1PB2TG?il=0
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s conflict with Democrats over a partial U.S. government shutdown escalated on Thursday with Trump denying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi use of military aircraft for an overseas trip in apparent retaliation for her suggestion that he delay the annual State of the Union address.

The rising tension suggested that the shutdown, now in its 27th day, remains far from being resolved.

In the meantime, the Trump administration continued to try to mitigate the shutdown’s impact. The State Department said it would call its furloughed employees back to work next week for national-security reasons.

Pelosi had been scheduled to travel on a military aircraft as part of a congressional delegation to Belgium, where NATO is based, and Afghanistan to visit American troops stationed there.

In a letter to Pelosi denying her delegation the use of a plane, the Republican president called the trip an “excursion.”

“In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate,” he wrote.

He told Pelosi she could make the trip by flying commercial.

Trump’s intervention stopped the trip just as Pelosi and other lawmakers were about to travel.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said Trump had acted within his authority as commander in chief.

“He postponed her ability to use military air, which must be approved” by the Department of Defense, Sanders said.

A spokesman for Pelosi, Drew Hammill, said the trip to Brussels was intended “to affirm the United States’ ironclad commitment to the NATO alliance.”

The Afghanistan leg of the trip would have obtained “critical national security and intelligence briefings from those on the front lines,” Hammill said.

A House Democratic aide, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that details of the trip were not supposed to be revealed for security reasons, as is customary. The White House, however, made the letter to Pelosi detailing the itinerary public.

A U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Pelosi had requested and been granted Defense Department support for overseas travel, although the president has the authority to cancel Pelosi’s travel.

At the Capitol, members of the delegation had already boarded a bus bound for Joint Base Andrews just outside Washington, from which the plane was set to depart, when news of Trump’s decision broke.

It appeared to be a response to a letter Pelosi sent to Trump on Tuesday, suggesting he delay the annual State of the Union address to Congress, scheduled for Jan. 29, to some point after the government reopens.

Pelosi cited concerns over the capacity of the Department of Homeland Security and the Secret Service to safeguard the Capitol during the event. The agency later said it was capable of securing the venue.

Trump’s action drew criticism from one of his Republican allies in the Senate. “One sophomoric response does not deserve another,” Republican Senator Lindsey Graham wrote on Twitter.

He criticized Pelosi’s move on the State of the Union as “blatantly political” but said, “President Trump denying Speaker Pelosi military travel to visit our troops in Afghanistan, our allies in Egypt and NATO is also inappropriate.”

Also on Thursday, the State Department said it would recall its employees and take steps to pay them salaries - a departure from other agencies.

“As a national security agency, it is imperative that the Department of State carries out its mission,” Deputy Under Secretary of State Bill Todd said in a statement. “We are best positioned to do so with fully staffed embassies, consulates and domestic offices.”

Todd said the department’s employees would be paid on Feb. 14 for work performed beginning on or after this coming Sunday. The department would review its available funds and “legal authorities” beyond the upcoming pay period to try to cover future payments, he said.

About one quarter of federal agencies have been shuttered since Dec. 22, with Democratic lawmakers refusing to accede to President Donald Trump’s demands to pay for a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico.

Trump is holding out for $5.7 billion for a border wall. Democrats, who took over the U.S. House of Representatives this month, have rejected his demands, saying there are cheaper, more effective ways of enhancing border security.

Before leaving for the weekend, the House passed another bill that would fund the government through Feb. 28. The Senate, however, has refused to bring any funding bill to the floor for a vote that Trump does not support.
 
Good. Pelosi shouldnt be spending government money while it's shut down. Also, what the fuck business does a congressman have attending a national security and intelligence briefings? Isn't that more for the Military Brass and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs? And the Secretary of Defense? A congressman has NO business in those kind of meetings, speaker of the house or not.
 
There's an article from 2010 about Pelosi's...interesting use of military aircraft. It's an undeniably hostile source, but bear in mind when you read it that Pelosi's personal net worth in 2010 was $35 million.

https://mobile.wnd.com/2010/01/123472/

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Taxpayers' $101,000 includes Pelosi's in-flight 'food, booze'
Speaker's trips 'are more about partying than anything else'
Published: 01/29/2010 at 12:20 AM

It reads like a dream order for a wild frat party: Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewars scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey … and Corona beer.

But that single receipt makes up just part of the more than $101,000 taxpayers paid for “in-flight services” – including food and liquor, for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trips on Air Force jets over the last two years. That’s almost $1,000 per week.

Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by Judicial Watch, which investigates and prosecutes government corruption, show Pelosi incurred expenses of some $2.1 million for her use of Air Force jets for travel over that time.

“Speaker Pelosi has a history of wasting taxpayer funds with her boorish demands for military travel,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said today. “And these documents suggest the Speaker’s congressional delegations are more about partying than anything else.”

Pelosi, D-Calif., recently joined President Obama on a Judicial Watch list of Top 10 corrupt politicians because of her “sense of entitlement,” the group said.

“Politicians believe laws and rules (even the U.S. Constitution) apply to the rest of us but not to them. Case in point: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her excessive and boorish demands for military travel. Judicial Watch obtained documents from the Pentagon in 2008 that suggest Pelosi has been treating the Air Force like her own personal airline,” the evaluation said.

And WND reported almost a year ago that Pelosi was shown to have been erratically canceling and rescheduling flights, as one would with an on-call taxi service.

“We have … folks prepping the jets and crews driving in (not a short drive for some), cooking meals and preflighting the jets etc,” said one Department of Defense e-mail then.

Another official sent an e-mail questioning a series of Pelosi’s requests for aircraft.

“Any chance of politely querying [Pelosi’s team] if they really intend to do all of these or are they just picking every weekend?” it stated. “[T]here’s no need to block every weekend ‘just in case’…”

The e-mail noted that the speaker’s office had “a history of canceling many of their past requests.”

Yet another e-mail exchange at that time revealed Pelosi’s demand that jets pick her up at Travis Air Force Base rather than San Francisco’s airport.

“She lives about 1.5 hours from SFO and much closer to Travis. … Whether it is the best use of assets is not the question. But instead is it worth upsetting the speaker. …”

Said another, “This is a battle that we are bound to lose if we tell the speaker(‘s) office. In the end, this is what will happen. I wish that I could say this is a one-time request, but we know it will probably happen again in the future.”

Yet another indicated a deep level of frustration:

“Here is the laydown: there are five G5s. Two are broke. Two off on CODELS. One slated for priority White House… we should keep on G-III for now for Tuesday afternoon and start sacrificing goats and chickens.”

Judicial Watch said the newly obtained 2,000 pages of documentation show Pelosi’s military travel cost the U.S. Air Force $2,100,744.59 over two years – including $101,429.14 for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol.

Among the newest highlights revealed:

  • Pelosi used Air Force aircraft to travel back to her district at an average cost of $28,210.51 per flight. Of 103 Pelosi-led congressional delegations (CODEL), 31 trips included members of the House speaker’s family.
  • One CODEL traveling from Washington, D.C., through Tel Aviv, Israel, to Baghdad, Iraq, May 15-20, 2008, “to discuss matters of mutual concern with government leaders” included members of Congress and their spouses and cost $17,931 per hour in aircraft alone. This flight included the purchase of the long list of alcoholic drinks.
  • According to a “Memo for Record” from a March 29-April 7, 2007, CODEL that involved a stop in Israel, “CODEL could only bring kosher items into the hotel. Kosher alcohol for mixing beverages in the delegation room was purchased on the local economy i.e. bourbon, whiskey, scotch, vodka, gin, triple sec, tequila, etc.
Pelosi’s office could not be reached for comment. The answering machine said the office would be closed until Monday, and the mailbox was full, so no messages could be left.

Judicial Watch Inc. describes itself as a constitutionally conservative, nonpartisan educational foundation that promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.
 
Trump’s action drew criticism from one of his Republican allies in the Senate. “One sophomoric response does not deserve another,” Republican Senator Lindsey Graham wrote on Twitter.
Graham has forgotten what country he lives in it seems.
 
Waits until last minute to tell the plane stay on the ground.

Hot damn, what a fuckin power move :story:
 
Good. Pelosi shouldnt be spending government money while it's shut down. Also, what the fuck business does a congressman have attending a national security and intelligence briefings? Isn't that more for the Military Brass and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs? And the Secretary of Defense? A congressman has NO business in those kind of meetings, speaker of the house or not.

The fact that we are keeping such a large standing army already is pretty threatening to the continuation of the Republic. Freezing the legislature out of seeing what we are DOING with that army is not a good idea.

There's an article from 2010 about Pelosi's...interesting use of military aircraft. It's an undeniably hostile source, but bear in mind when you read it that Pelosi's personal net worth in 2010 was $35 million.

https://mobile.wnd.com/2010/01/123472/

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Common practice when officials go oversees to meet with foreign officials and dignitaries is to bring a huge pile of meaningless goodies. Like Alcohol, fancy foods and so on. US officials can't use taxpayer money to pay the required bribes to foreign officials and bureaucrats that insure a successful trip, but they are allowed to give "gifts".
 
Why the fuck does she need a military aircraft to ferry her around? She ain't important, so why the fuck does she need that kind of escort?
I'm more wondering why she's still in office and why no one has kicked her out. If she's going to act like this, doesn't it make sense to get her out of her position?
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46911478

Some commentators expressed dismay that the president would reveal plans about a trip to a war zone by a congresswoman who is third in line to the presidency.

So that's the Democrats plan? Impeach Trump, impeach Pence and then get President Pelosi?

He wasn't revealing the plans for a trip to a war zone anyway, he was telling her she can't go.
 
Good. Pelosi shouldnt be spending government money while it's shut down. Also, what the fuck business does a congressman have attending a national security and intelligence briefings? Isn't that more for the Military Brass and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs? And the Secretary of Defense? A congressman has NO business in those kind of meetings, speaker of the house or not.

I have as low an opinion of Pelosi as anyone, but she's #3 in the line of succession. You do not want someone that close to the presidency being kept ignorant of the ongoing plans and strategy of our military. If anything, Congress should be more involved in those discussions per the constitution, and the fact they've ceded so much ground to the president on this matter since WWII is not good.
 
The fact that we are keeping such a large standing army already is pretty threatening to the continuation of the Republic. Freezing the legislature out of seeing what we are DOING with that army is not a good idea.



Common practice when officials go oversees to meet with foreign officials and dignitaries is to bring a huge pile of meaningless goodies. Like Alcohol, fancy foods and so on. US officials can't use taxpayer money to pay the required bribes to foreign officials and bureaucrats that insure a successful trip, but they are allowed to give "gifts".

Nice of you to say the USofA is a republic and not a democracy, but the Roman Republic is long dead. The Roman Empire is long dead. The odds that a “soldier statesman” in the vein of Eisenhower reappearing is low as people are uncomfortable with a warrior getting elected to public office. Remember people bitching about solid snake getting elected? The media would attempt to destroy them.

When I went to Russia I would bring duffle bags of jeans to people I knew there. When I went to Africa I would bring duffle bags of cigarettes. So, yeah, people do that when they go to other countries for work. Bribery works. An official will remember you gave their kid a game boy and will help you out.
 
Nice of you to say the USofA is a republic and not a democracy, but the Roman Republic is long dead. The Roman Empire is long dead. The odds that a “soldier statesman” in the vein of Eisenhower reappearing is low as people are uncomfortable with a warrior getting elected to public office. Remember people bitching about solid snake getting elected? The media would attempt to destroy them.

Who said anything about elected? If the military overthrew Drumpf tomorrow and declared an emergency care taker government, I guarantee you at least a third of the country would cheer. And that is in current year. Imagine another century of steadily eroding political legitimacy.
 
I'm more wondering why she's still in office and why no one has kicked her out. If she's going to act like this, doesn't it make sense to get her out of her position?

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say. Kicking her out would give the DNC more leverage for negotiating what they want as recompense for the action of removing one of their own from office. So the other option? Hoist them by their own petard. If they want to jet around the world and spend tax payer money on trivial shit while crowing about the shutdown then fuck with 'em at every turn. Ground every plane of theirs, stymie every event, and be a general pain about pointing out every instance of hypocrisy along the way.

Y'know, give an idiot enough rope and they'll hang eventually. Optimistic as hell, but hey.
 
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