🦊 Furry Trish Henderson / Adiago / Spacedrake Designs / Sevva-Phoenix - Furry artist who claims to be both Poly, and Monogamous with insane paranoia about people stealing their mediocre, ripped-off artwork.
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Cinnamon Toast Fuck
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She's also making Aeryn a new reference, probably also tangentially related to discussion of the other currently-existing reference here in the thread. Looks like she's implementing some new design changes, too. It's a little weird that she's doing this after she's already "finished" some pages of this comic she's working on.
Hiding the hands via awkward posing in a brand-new reference sheet again, I see. Just draw the damn things, Trish.
Looks like androgyn anatomy is getting retconned or she's just straight up ignoring her own rules, as she's stated in her species order guidelines they are scrawny and have anatomy that isn't male or female. "Androgynous" if you will.
Damien has a note on his sheet that his androgyn status is partly the cause of him being skinny.
Meanwhile, Aeryn gets bulked up every time Trish draws her. If someone were to draw a dick and balls on that reference it would look perfectly in line with her male drakes. All I can think is with the retcon of tits on female hairlizards she has to try harder to make androgyns look different from them...? She did go and edit Ezrael's reference to lack boobs, and she doesn't look any different from the standard she previously set for androgyns.
(Good job at leaving in the text about nipples being visible based on horniness instead of just deleting it.)
Is it just me, or are abyss drakes getting more stunted with their proportions with each new time she draws them? She's always been all over the board with their features and I can remember seeing older art where the shoulder girdles looked way too small for the body, and the chronic baby arms as well, but I don't recall the squashed thickened torsos, short legs, and big heads being something previously.
They're starting to remind me of dogs with short spine syndrome. With the limited gene pool and constant need to fuck to "preserve the species", it's probably not outside the realm of possibility that they could get that inbred.
Hiding the hands via awkward posing in a brand-new reference sheet again, I see. Just draw the damn things, Trish.
Looks like androgyn anatomy is getting retconned or she's just straight up ignoring her own rules, as she's stated in her species order guidelines they are scrawny and have anatomy that isn't male or female. "Androgynous" if you will.
Damien has a note on his sheet that his androgyn status is partly the cause of him being skinny.
Meanwhile, Aeryn gets bulked up every time Trish draws her. If someone were to draw a dick and balls on that reference it would look perfectly in line with her male drakes. All I can think is with the retcon of tits on female hairlizards she has to try harder to make androgyns look different from them...? She did go and edit Ezrael's reference to lack boobs, and she doesn't look any different from the standard she previously set for androgyns.
(Good job at leaving in the text about nipples being visible based on horniness instead of just deleting it.)
Is it just me, or are abyss drakes getting more stunted with their proportions with each new time she draws them? She's always been all over the board with their features and I can remember seeing older art where the shoulder girdles looked way too small for the body, and the chronic baby arms as well, but I don't recall the squashed thickened torsos, short legs, and big heads being something previously.
They're starting to remind me of dogs with short spine syndrome. With the limited gene pool and constant need to fuck to "preserve the species", it's probably not outside the realm of possibility that they could get that inbred.
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Looking at the remade reference for Ezrael and she also forgot to update the new tongue design along with the competely pointless extra two toes that Tropical drakes are supposed to have now.
Yet again, the only "original" features she's slapped on at random to make her drakes look a little more unique than the dozen or so interchangeable brick-headed furry species got utterly forgotten in her haste to expunge any record of lizard titties as fast as possible. Priorities.
Yet again, the only "original" features she's slapped on at random to make her drakes look a little more unique than the dozen or so interchangeable brick-headed furry species got utterly forgotten in her haste to expunge any record of lizard titties as fast as possible. Priorities.
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I do wonder if she reads this thread. She talks a lot about 'stalkers' but it seems she's exclusively tweeting about her ex and her ex's girlfriend, two people who only acknowledge she exists when she stops vague tweeting about them and goes for dropping their names because she's completely consumed by a relationship that ended years ago.
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Her anatomy skills are disintegrating before our eyes. That torso is horribly stunted and disfigured because she has no idea how to draw a bulkier body frame. The positioning of the legs is also bizarre. Both knees are bent and pointing outwards while the character is standing facing in one direction in a 3/4 view. The awkward attempt to hide hands is very amateur and something I would expect from a teenager, not a self-described "professional artist" who claims to have worked for companies.
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You know, all this talk of Trish focusing on her deteriorating anatomy skills reminded me that Trish hasn't posted to FluffyDilo in over a month now.
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this would have been ok if she didn’t add the hand with the coffee mug. it looks like a last minute add on
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This entire thing looks awkward. Without the coffee mug, it looks like the drake is laying in a field of flowers (which are suspiciously well-rendered as compared to the drake). The posing of the arm holding the mug is entirely unnatural, which lends credence to your theory of a last minute addition. I can’t even get my arm into that position, and if we were to argue that foreshortening was involved, the hand and coffee mug would be MUCH bigger.
Also, the shading on the coffee mug doesn’t match the flowers OR the drake. Hasn’t Trish bitched about this kind of stuff in other artists in the past?
Kedke
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The flowers are a clip studio asset/brush that she probably hastily colored because you know damn well she wouldn’t take the time to detail something that much.
Also the flowers clash so hard, they’re detailed to the point where they seem like the focus and not the drake.
This composition is a fucking mess
But the tiny baby hand is laughable, also it’s funny when she draws the eyes on her drakes bigger than normal. Makes their heads look even more ridiculous when you try to figure out where room for the brain is.
(Also hello to yet another thousand yard stare.)
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Kedke
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The excessively blue art makes so much sense now. Who can go outside when you need to yell on twitter all day about how woman you are?
Also re: adi the professional artist
No one would dream of picking her up. She can’t draw anything without it looking like her hairlizards, her compositions are a fucking mess and are often hard to read at first glance, there’s a lot of elements in her finished pieces that feel like afterthoughts, most of the art that includes a pre made brush or asset makes whatever she drew look very rushed, her anatomy is all over the place and going south fast, everything is blue, everyone is blue, her perspective is god awful, her characters never look at each other, the characters don’t look like they’re ever truly in their environment, any foreshortening leads to fucked up anatomy, she’s refusing to draw hands now, and I could keep going on… but realistically, I can’t see any professional art department trying to pick her up. She also has no portfolio outside of hairlizards hate-fucking, being emo, or animated to look like they’re having convulsions. She has no concept art outside of character refs, its cute how she touts that she’s a big professional artist with nothing to show for it.
Also re: adi the professional artist
No one would dream of picking her up. She can’t draw anything without it looking like her hairlizards, her compositions are a fucking mess and are often hard to read at first glance, there’s a lot of elements in her finished pieces that feel like afterthoughts, most of the art that includes a pre made brush or asset makes whatever she drew look very rushed, her anatomy is all over the place and going south fast, everything is blue, everyone is blue, her perspective is god awful, her characters never look at each other, the characters don’t look like they’re ever truly in their environment, any foreshortening leads to fucked up anatomy, she’s refusing to draw hands now, and I could keep going on… but realistically, I can’t see any professional art department trying to pick her up. She also has no portfolio outside of hairlizards hate-fucking, being emo, or animated to look like they’re having convulsions. She has no concept art outside of character refs, its cute how she touts that she’s a big professional artist with nothing to show for it.
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At one point she brought up how she was proud to call herself a professional artist because she got her work published in an art zine once, and I'm pretty sure the only time I can remember anything of the sort it was for Inkedfur, owned by notorious pedophile Sangie, and was specifically because she lied her way into submitting a hetero Halcyon/Antaras shibari print in a gay art zine. And that she, along with a bunch of other artists, got screwed over somehow anyway.
She was allegedly working on illustrating an informational fantasy book of some kind for another furry, though she's since not brought it up again anywhere so who knows if that was even true, or if she's since had a falling out with this person and the project was cancelled.
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure the only "professional art" she's done is when she got asked to make a sales sign on the chalkboard outside Lowes.
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Mere minutes after that was posted:
I have no idea what this ban evasion on FA is, aside from maybe mixing it up with SoFurry, but I did go look at her DeviantArt page out of curiosity. It’s mostly the same things she crossposts across platforms, but something I didn’t see posted elsewhere was back in late June when she’d reposted the “repossessed” abyss drake she did for Raven under the new name of “Moon”.
Compare with how it looked before;
Considering Crimson has abandoned this iteration in favor of her new original drake species take some time ago, I find it funny that it feels like the only reason Trish posted this was to scream at everyone how she’s the “rightful owner”.
So much for not being an obsessed stalker.
Edit: Trish has fired back with her own “beware” and her own logs.
https://www.deviantart.com/subspace...ware-ravensmoon666-crimsonvexations-922149800
https://archive.ph/WqWUJ
While it does offer more context to some of the situations brought up, the logs are, as expected, 75% Trish talking and pulling the “he said she said” defense and the other parties offering minimal wording in response. Or it’s straight up just completely unassuming exchanges she’s now twisting to be “evidence” because if you squint hard enough you might be able to see where she’s getting that interpretation from. The conversations between Crimson’s exes are probably the most revealing, but it just reads as what you’d expect from a messy break-up and events leading up to it.
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Here's a tl;dr for anyone who ain't got time for all that shit.
I think a lot of Adi's rant is completely glossing over the fact that if Raven was so "problematic" then why the fuck did Trish let her stay in the server for so long in the first place. She's booted people for much less before, like when she kicked Casey out for disagreeing with her over whether gay people are "worthless" or not.
My personal takeaway; I think Raven has been playing a dumb game of tagalong with Trish for a while, to be clear. Yes, it's funny that she made the Virago drakes as a parody of Adi's and managed to snag Megalo, but this is ultimately a degree of pick-me behavior that we've seen from Trish herself for decades that if Raven doesn't smarten up she'll end up repeating in her own way. That said, Raven is still young and has room to grow, and I think being away from Adi's direct influence will be a net benefit in the long run as Trish actively fosters this kind of nonsense by targeting young and impressionable fans, alternating between lovebombing and shit-talking them, and then using them as pawns in her own drama with the promise of free art.
Still, Raven was in her late teens/early 20s so being a bit stupid and obnoxious is kind of expected, as mentioned. Trish herself is a thirty-something year old woman with over two decades of experience running various chat rooms and servers, and it was her private server for her stories and characters no less, so the idea she wouldn't be heavily vetting or moderating it to prevent this kind of bullshit from happening is a fucking joke. According to this narrative, Raven constantly overstepped boundries with everyone she came in contact with, but Adi just decided to handwave all of that away for the sake of making a quick buck by leeching money off a young adult with poor financial and personal decisionmaking, even if it came at the cost of her entire friend circle.
But, you know, she's truly the best pal and partner ever. Or as long as you're willing to stalk people on her behalf and pay for her exorbitant lifestyle, I guess.
First topic involves the breakup with Exterio and how Raven went nuts on Trish and Val (or Val the Dogfucker as Adi has been calling him) because he wouldn't help her cheat on Exterio or something. The only screenshot provided is one of Exterio talking calmly to Trish about something fucking irrelevant and the rest is "trust me bro" and "I heard".
Second topic are the transcrips between Adi and Ivy, mostly talking about Raven redesigning Eclipse and them gossping about Raven's relationships, as Ivenvorry had been away for some time. This conversation takes place right around the time Adi posted her journal about character reclaiming, before she got permabanned off FA and Ivy was dropped from her friend catalogue. Most of the conversation is Adi just telling Ivenvorry her version of events and Ivy lamenting about simpler times and how Adi seems to always have drama going on around her.
Third topic is a slew of screenshots between Adi and Val talking about Raven's "cheating" and comparing him constantly to FFI and "Marko"(?), which is mostly just Adi ranting for pages on pages by herself and Valerian commenting "you're my oldest friend I don't want to lose you" and "you flip out a lot sometimes though" which actually made me laugh.
Fourth topic is Adi and Exterio where she's pushing him to leave Raven or something if he hasn't already.
Fifth topic is heavily cropped screencaps from Adi's server where she's pissing and crying about him leaving and he asks her why people are impersonating him on Facebook. Really nothing of substance here except Adi once again attempting to drum up pity through excessive theatrics. The file on these screenshots is called "im the actual victim here" which speaks for itself really.
Fifth set of screenshots is Adi screeching at Raven about wanting to have a drake that looks similar to Daka's. I couldn't care less about this shit tbh.
Sixth topic is Trish accusing Raven of stalking Megalo. Her initial screenshots show Raven sharing images of Meg's fursona, photo, etc. but the image is so blurry that I can't even tell the date. With the context of Raven's chat with Adi though, it's entirely possible these were screenshots and pics sent to Trish when she was in the midst of her salivating over Meg. She also accuses Raven of calling Meg "stupid" but the context is that Meg didn't telepathically pick up on Adi being sad somehow so to appease her Raven called him dense. That's literally it.
Seventh topic is Adi confronting Raven's "inappropriate behavior" which at first implies something romantic but turns out Raven just didn't feel that Meg and Adi were a good fit, and Adi chimped out about it as expected. Raven also said something insensitive to upset Meg, which Adi said was because "he's an outsider" and thus not yet adjusted to their toxic discord cult's in-jokes and insults or something.
Eighth topic is Meg's side of the same conversation, where Meg clarifies that Raven mentioned that Meg probably wasn't prepared for a relationship with Adi due to inexperience or fears he would "end up like Daka" (aka he'd realize how crazy she was and back out). The entire conversation is him trying to placate her.
Ninth topic is Adi bringing up more of Raven's "stalking" while actively engaging with it herself lol.
Tenth and last topic is about Retro, where Adi addresses the reasons why he ended up getting a ton of redone porn between Adi and her main sonas and Meg didn't; she favored the financial boon of her favoriteclient paypig over the feelings of her boyfriend, and tried to gloss it over with 'it made me uncomfortable too!" as if that makes it alright. She could've easily drawn Retro some completely new pieces if she wanted cash that bad.
In her closer, Adi encourages any artists who have worked with Raven or drawn her species to remove the art from their galleries, probably because she can't DMCA them herself.
Second topic are the transcrips between Adi and Ivy, mostly talking about Raven redesigning Eclipse and them gossping about Raven's relationships, as Ivenvorry had been away for some time. This conversation takes place right around the time Adi posted her journal about character reclaiming, before she got permabanned off FA and Ivy was dropped from her friend catalogue. Most of the conversation is Adi just telling Ivenvorry her version of events and Ivy lamenting about simpler times and how Adi seems to always have drama going on around her.
Third topic is a slew of screenshots between Adi and Val talking about Raven's "cheating" and comparing him constantly to FFI and "Marko"(?), which is mostly just Adi ranting for pages on pages by herself and Valerian commenting "you're my oldest friend I don't want to lose you" and "you flip out a lot sometimes though" which actually made me laugh.
Fourth topic is Adi and Exterio where she's pushing him to leave Raven or something if he hasn't already.
Fifth topic is heavily cropped screencaps from Adi's server where she's pissing and crying about him leaving and he asks her why people are impersonating him on Facebook. Really nothing of substance here except Adi once again attempting to drum up pity through excessive theatrics. The file on these screenshots is called "im the actual victim here" which speaks for itself really.
Fifth set of screenshots is Adi screeching at Raven about wanting to have a drake that looks similar to Daka's. I couldn't care less about this shit tbh.
Sixth topic is Trish accusing Raven of stalking Megalo. Her initial screenshots show Raven sharing images of Meg's fursona, photo, etc. but the image is so blurry that I can't even tell the date. With the context of Raven's chat with Adi though, it's entirely possible these were screenshots and pics sent to Trish when she was in the midst of her salivating over Meg. She also accuses Raven of calling Meg "stupid" but the context is that Meg didn't telepathically pick up on Adi being sad somehow so to appease her Raven called him dense. That's literally it.
Seventh topic is Adi confronting Raven's "inappropriate behavior" which at first implies something romantic but turns out Raven just didn't feel that Meg and Adi were a good fit, and Adi chimped out about it as expected. Raven also said something insensitive to upset Meg, which Adi said was because "he's an outsider" and thus not yet adjusted to their toxic discord cult's in-jokes and insults or something.
Eighth topic is Meg's side of the same conversation, where Meg clarifies that Raven mentioned that Meg probably wasn't prepared for a relationship with Adi due to inexperience or fears he would "end up like Daka" (aka he'd realize how crazy she was and back out). The entire conversation is him trying to placate her.
Ninth topic is Adi bringing up more of Raven's "stalking" while actively engaging with it herself lol.
Tenth and last topic is about Retro, where Adi addresses the reasons why he ended up getting a ton of redone porn between Adi and her main sonas and Meg didn't; she favored the financial boon of her favorite
In her closer, Adi encourages any artists who have worked with Raven or drawn her species to remove the art from their galleries, probably because she can't DMCA them herself.
I think a lot of Adi's rant is completely glossing over the fact that if Raven was so "problematic" then why the fuck did Trish let her stay in the server for so long in the first place. She's booted people for much less before, like when she kicked Casey out for disagreeing with her over whether gay people are "worthless" or not.
My personal takeaway; I think Raven has been playing a dumb game of tagalong with Trish for a while, to be clear. Yes, it's funny that she made the Virago drakes as a parody of Adi's and managed to snag Megalo, but this is ultimately a degree of pick-me behavior that we've seen from Trish herself for decades that if Raven doesn't smarten up she'll end up repeating in her own way. That said, Raven is still young and has room to grow, and I think being away from Adi's direct influence will be a net benefit in the long run as Trish actively fosters this kind of nonsense by targeting young and impressionable fans, alternating between lovebombing and shit-talking them, and then using them as pawns in her own drama with the promise of free art.
Still, Raven was in her late teens/early 20s so being a bit stupid and obnoxious is kind of expected, as mentioned. Trish herself is a thirty-something year old woman with over two decades of experience running various chat rooms and servers, and it was her private server for her stories and characters no less, so the idea she wouldn't be heavily vetting or moderating it to prevent this kind of bullshit from happening is a fucking joke. According to this narrative, Raven constantly overstepped boundries with everyone she came in contact with, but Adi just decided to handwave all of that away for the sake of making a quick buck by leeching money off a young adult with poor financial and personal decisionmaking, even if it came at the cost of her entire friend circle.
But, you know, she's truly the best pal and partner ever. Or as long as you're willing to stalk people on her behalf and pay for her exorbitant lifestyle, I guess.
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Infamous cannot reply glitch but she deleted the entire thing and posted a short drama blurb instead.
Edit: Nevermind, can't read dates apparently.
I guess she realized how badly her original "beware" backfired.
Edit: Nevermind, can't read dates apparently.
I guess she realized how badly her original "beware" backfired.
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Cinnamon Toast Fuck
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That's not even a new "beware", that’s from two years ago when the drama of Crimson removing Trish’s username from a commissioned ref sheet for Eclipse was in full swing. That's one hell of a backfire for the new one to be gone in less than a few hours, especially after tweeting this.
To detract from her screeching about Crimson, she made a thread about being wholesome and talking to her grandma to remind everyone that she is nice to old people and therefore a good person. She apparently also just learned that she’s not actually Russian-Italian but Ukrainian-Italian in descent. Convenient, considering the world view of Russia as a whole relative to the war in Ukraine. And of course she made it into a commentary about being descended from tough women. Being a crazy bitch online isn't being "tough".
To detract from her screeching about Crimson, she made a thread about being wholesome and talking to her grandma to remind everyone that she is nice to old people and therefore a good person. She apparently also just learned that she’s not actually Russian-Italian but Ukrainian-Italian in descent. Convenient, considering the world view of Russia as a whole relative to the war in Ukraine. And of course she made it into a commentary about being descended from tough women. Being a crazy bitch online isn't being "tough".
Kedke
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> Rewrite & a “I’m too old for this shit.”
It’s nice seeing her pay us a visit from time to time.
Sycamore21
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The thing is, a normal commissioner will read through that clusterfuck of text and shrug it off as personal drama. I've seen a lot of furry shit where people make long drawn out callouts on people full of things like 'they talked behind my back,' or 'they stole a colour from my character' and then get mad when nobody takes their posts seriously anymore. This is where Trish is right now. With that, and her disgusting reputation in the furry community, only her and her paypigs are this invested in parsing all of that drivel. (And us, of course.)
If she wanted to actually damage Crimson's reputation with other artists, why not be more vocal about her 'stealing' the drake species? Artists are much more wary of copycats than they are of pointless personal drama.
Oh wait. Trish won't do that. Because she would have to admit to the fact that her species are cheap knockoffs of those she idolizes.
If she wanted to actually damage Crimson's reputation with other artists, why not be more vocal about her 'stealing' the drake species? Artists are much more wary of copycats than they are of pointless personal drama.
Oh wait. Trish won't do that. Because she would have to admit to the fact that her species are cheap knockoffs of those she idolizes.
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Oh she's back to being Jewish now with an extra dose of Ukrainian because of the war.
You're an American mutt, Adiago. You don't have any close ties to Ukraine. You were born in the US and will always be a filthy Anerican.