💬 Off-Topic Transphobic Animals - Pets and other animals who sniff out frauds or react negatively to troons

[Shroom King]

In another tweet, that reeking troon admitted he hadn't showered for multiple months, citing "depression" as the reason for the stench & cat piss filled shower.

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The M-16 in the corner really ties the room together.

 

[ZeDarkKnight]

They are, but from what I've seen of hoarders owning dogs they're not exactly adverse to hanging around bad smells if their master is around them. I do genuinely believe it comes down to how you are around a dog, if you're suspecting the dog is "Transphobic" and acting weird you will give of signs which they perceive as threatening and will put their guard up, if you're endlessly nervous or expecting the world and it's entire contents to be "Attacking your gender identity" imagine the signs that gives off to any animal which then believes you're a threat by proxy.
Trust and believe, unless it's a specifically trained (Guard) dog and you act like the animal barely exists they'll be way more calm and fine with you, than if you're always on edge and nervous, it's why I hate it when naturally anxious/nervous people buy big fucking dogs because it always ends in fucking disaster in my experience, you have to be confident with dogs as you are the measure of how they treat the world.

The rot pocket is constantly trying to heal itself so the smell may always be there..

 

[Galeocerdo]

The rot pocket is constantly trying to heal itself so the smell may always be there..

The olfactory systems of any animal will slowly 'unregister' bad smells which they're routinely used to over time, the term we usually use is "Nose blind" to define it, this is a basic bit of biological defence because how can you sense chances in your environment if you were always aware of the worst smell? This would be incredibly inconvenient for something like a dog which gives off a lot of different smells itself which're often overpowering or disgusting to us (With a weaker sense of smell). So regardless of "Well the smell is always there" the brain of any animal which relies on it's nose for guidance in the world will "filter" out smells which are always in it's environment for smells which may be new. If you want this simplified consider how someone who is a hoarder living in a pit of house can have millions of cats who don't mind living in the filth (Despite cats having a heightened sense of smell) and sometimes dogs who similarly don't care.

Again, I would argue the problem isn't "Dogs/cats smell the wounds and reject them due to it", otherwise dogs around people who're recovering from surgeries and the like would display the same behavioural quirks. The idea it's due to changes in hormones (so our natural body odour by proxy) and changes in appearance/deodorant and bodywash usage might play into it is tenable as these things do not happen overnight, it's a long drawn out process a dog would likely adapt to over time due to how slow and drawn out the change from "I'm a guy" to "I'm a troon" realistically is, it takes years and none of it is a snap of the fingers and you're done. Again, if it was as simple as that which would confuse a dog and make them aggressive, you'd never be able to change your perfume/deodorant without your dog going batty because a new smell is in the mix, or if you decided to cut your hair from long the dog would suddenly get aggressive because you're a new person. Doesn't work out that way.

To re-iterate, as someone who has trained dogs, even dogs who show violent tendencies towards men, it's all about how you act around the dog down to the ground. If you spend your time staring it out and being nervous/afraid of the animal (Or if the owner/alpha the dog takes cues from is nervous or shows signs of fear when you're around) it will become defensive and aggressive, it doesn't understand the nuance only the primal instincts the situation evokes, they perceive you as a threat and that's the end of it. But if you literally pretend the animal isn't there (And also, if the alpha/owner of the dog does the same) the dog will be calm and completely fine with the situation, even if the person is completely brand new if they act with confidence and the owner does to, you're all good.

With troons in particular who's entire world view is "Everything that isn't with me, is agin me", they see any slight from anything as an attack on their identity and will become defensive/aggressive and react by becoming anxious/nervous as a result. When you're around an animal which goes off of 'vibes' like a dog, it will lead the dog to react in kind. If they weren't so busy thinking the dog has such complex social apparatus as gender-based bias towards another species and just literally acted toward the dog like they did before, they'd be perfectly fucking fine.

 

[ZeDarkKnight]

The olfactory systems of any animal will slowly 'unregister' bad smells which they're routinely used to over time, the term we usually use is "Nose blind" to define it, this is a basic bit of biological defence because how can you sense chances in your environment if you were always aware of the worst smell? This would be incredibly inconvenient for something like a dog which gives off a lot of different smells itself which're often overpowering or disgusting to us (With a weaker sense of smell). So regardless of "Well the smell is always there" the brain of any animal which relies on it's nose for guidance in the world will "filter" out smells which are always in it's environment for smells which may be new. If you want this simplified consider how someone who is a hoarder living in a pit of house can have millions of cats who don't mind living in the filth (Despite cats having a heightened sense of smell) and sometimes dogs who similarly don't care.

There is a small difference here, the wound is constantly being reopened. This isn't a person with a simple wound, this is a chronic sick person to anything with a brain. You can smell infected wounds, esp. ones that keep getting reopened.

Dogs and cats can also actually detect cancer.

I think the important part is simply that the wound keeps getting reopened, which again adds smells (If you ever had bad wounds, you'll know it smells if the wound is reopened). The animals can never move past it because of wound constantly being reopened.

At least it's my opinion on this.

 

[Galeocerdo]

I think the important part is simply that the wound keeps getting reopened, which again adds smells (If you ever had bad wounds, you'll know it smells if the wound is reopened). The animals can never move past it because of wound constantly being reopened.

So I thought about this for a 5 minutes, having just woken up, and I forgot a bloody good point everyone is missing when they keep dragging up the "Well the wound re-opening...." as a point, like somehow that sends dogs scattering. When you bring up that point you're forgetting a really key behaviour within dogs which is that a lot of dog breeds and ESPECIALLY with dogs within a family unit, will smell or realise another member of the family is hurt and will immediately attempt to provide comfort for that person, whether it be attempting to lick the wound (As in nature they lick their wounds to clean them) or remaining close to the person to protect them (as they view them as vulnerable/wounded), it's something I neglected to point out when in my previous post I brought up those who had surgery, as dogs (especially if they have a closer bond with that person) tend to gravitate toward being closer to those people in the family during recouperation time and I even was about to train someone who's dog is currently being too overprotective of them due to their various physical injuries they have.

This is a case of people projecting onto the animal in both instances. They're projecting their insecurities and worldview onto the dog to make it seem like the dog is transphobic, you're projecting your idea of what a repulsive smell and disgusting idea onto a dog and going "Well it must not like them due to that." - Simply put they're not built with the mindset which processes information like we do.

 

[Treasure Champs]

This is a case of people projecting onto the animal in both instances. They're projecting their insecurities and worldview onto the dog to make it seem like the dog is transphobic, you're projecting your idea of what a repulsive smell and disgusting idea onto a dog and going "Well it must not like them due to that." - Simply put they're not built with the mindset which processes information like we do.

I don't think they are reacting to the smell, either. Well, not that one, anyway. Dogs LOVE stinky shit. Mine roll in dead things. Some of them eat cat shit or their own shit. I don't think a gross necrotizing crotch wound would bother them. I reckon it's the hormone profile. They can smell someone's biological sex, and they can probably smell that the person has fucked up biological things in it that don't belong. If you smell like a man but your insides have human woman genital stink on them, they are going to think something is very wrong with you. And they are, in fact, correct.

 

[Galeocerdo]

I reckon it's the hormone profile. They can smell someone's biological sex, and they can probably smell that the person has fucked up biological things in it that don't belong. If you smell like a man but your insides have human woman genital stink on them, they are going to think something is very wrong with you. And they are, in fact, correct.

Well again, this is projecting what how we think we'd handle the situation onto a dog and I did already cover this;

The idea it's due to changes in hormones (so our natural body odour by proxy) and changes in appearance/deodorant and bodywash usage might play into it is tenable as these things do not happen overnight, it's a long drawn out process a dog would likely adapt to over time due to how slow and drawn out the change from "I'm a guy" to "I'm a troon" realistically is, it takes years and none of it is a snap of the fingers and you're done. Again, if it was as simple as that which would confuse a dog and make them aggressive, you'd never be able to change your perfume/deodorant without your dog going batty because a new smell is in the mix, or if you decided to cut your hair from long the dog would suddenly get aggressive because you're a new person. Doesn't work out that way.

Really consider what you're saying here. Hormonal changes aren't instant and plenty of normal health conditions and medications screw with our hormonal balances, if all it took was a hormonal imbalance or shift then fucking hell dude, dogs couldn't be kept around teenagers or menopausal women, or people taking steroids (medically or not) and so on. I would say a dog will definitely treat a person like a stranger IF they were to leave before the transition then return post-transition, as the dog would be seeing and smelling someone completely different, but if the change is ongoing and the dog is around the entire time they're again, not going to give a fuck or be phased as long as you treat the dog normally as well.

 

[Treasure Champs]

but if the change is ongoing and the dog is around the entire time they're again

We're talking mostly about dogs that hate troons on sight, not troons who own dogs while in the process of transition. Troons, in general, are rarely dog owners, as they lack the psychological integrity needed to regularly attend to another living creature in a meaningful way, i.e. walking the darned thing two or three times a day. Cats, yeah, sometimes they have those, but dogs, hardly ever.

 

[crazedaze]

If you smell like a man but your insides have human woman genital stink on them

I'm curious how a man's festering scrotal wound creates "woman genital stink" please elaborate

 

[The Un-Clit]

I'm curious how a man's festering scrotal wound creates "woman genital stink" please elaborate

I think he's talking about pooners here. They smell like a man hormonally, but still have a vagina that smells like a vagina, rotdog attached or not.

 

[Galeocerdo]

We're talking mostly about dogs that hate troons on sight, not troons who own dogs while in the process of transition. Troons, in general, are rarely dog owners, as they lack the psychological integrity needed to regularly attend to another living creature in a meaningful way, i.e. walking the darned thing two or three times a day. Cats, yeah, sometimes they have those, but dogs, hardly ever.

Then you agree with me it's about a tranny's behaviour around said animal which is causing the animal to become distrustful toward that person. As someone who has, on multiple occasions, trained dogs which (and I direct quote) "Cannot be around men" and had them happily around me within a single session, I can tell you it's all about attitude and it's only super difficult if the dog has serious trauma related to someone. I highly doubt these dogs have been seriously traumatised by trans people and it's simply these trannies see odd behaviour from a dog and instead of rolling with it, they go on the "MUH ANIMAL IS TRANSPHOBIC" shit, this sends off a lot of signals to a dog that this person is becoming aggressive and untrustworthy so said animals do not want to be near them.

 

[ZeDarkKnight]

So I thought about this for a 5 minutes, having just woken up, and I forgot a bloody good point everyone is missing when they keep dragging up the "Well the wound re-opening...." as a point, like somehow that sends dogs scattering. When you bring up that point you're forgetting a really key behaviour within dogs which is that a lot of dog breeds and ESPECIALLY with dogs within a family unit, will smell or realise another member of the family is hurt and will immediately attempt to provide comfort for that person, whether it be attempting to lick the wound (As in nature they lick their wounds to clean them) or remaining close to the person to protect them (as they view them as vulnerable/wounded), it's something I neglected to point out when in my previous post I brought up those who had surgery, as dogs (especially if they have a closer bond with that person) tend to gravitate toward being closer to those people in the family during recouperation time and I even was about to train someone who's dog is currently being too overprotective of them due to their various physical injuries they have.

This is a case of people projecting onto the animal in both instances. They're projecting their insecurities and worldview onto the dog to make it seem like the dog is transphobic, you're projecting your idea of what a repulsive smell and disgusting idea onto a dog and going "Well it must not like them due to that." - Simply put they're not built with the mindset which processes information like we do.

I still think it's at least partially related to the rotpocket. There's a big difference with trannies, they aren't allowing themselves to be healed.

It's also not a wound that can't be healed, like a terminal illness, it's a wound that can be healed, they just choose to hurt themselves to keep it wounded.

I know animals see things differently from us, but they have to question why a wound that can heal keeps getting hurt, and if you can trust someone who goes out of their way to injure themselves

 

[Galeocerdo]

but they have to question why a wound that can heal keeps getting hurt, and if you can trust someone who goes out of their way to injure themselves

No, they wouldn't.

Again, you're putting a lot of forethought onto a dog who doesn't understand medical shit, a dog will continue to scratch and lick at their own wounds constantly re-opening them ad nauseum hence we put cones onto them and do things to avoid them getting at the wound. They certainly don't take the actions as a form of 'self harm' and then they cannot trust said person, I have been around plenty of people who self-harmed and owned dogs, not "ESA trained" dogs, just regular dogs, hell I knew one who owned a rescue, I never once saw the dog suddenly get shitty with them because they were self harming. What I would hear about is the dog attempting to comfort the person as they fell into that spiral and become distressed at seeing that (Hence self harmers usually do it away from the watching eyes of the dog).

I don't know how more clear I can make it, dogs aren't like humans and don't get "Repulsed" by things in the same manner we do, nor do they have the understanding of our bodies/medicine that we do, I want you to consider when you post something related to a dog, would you expect a 4/5 year old child who has autism and is already a bit slow to come to this conclusion off rip without any prompting or outside stimuli?