💬 Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

[diroama]

"They would lose at ECHR"
Who fucking cares? The ECHR's retarded, destructive, and politically-motivated rulings are one of the biggest reason Bongistan left the EU in the first place.

The UK is still a member of the European council on human rights, so British citizens can still take their grievances to the European court of human rights.

But it's not a court that can force states to change its laws, or override its courts. It's rulings are little more than suggestions and following them or not is a political decision.

 

[space man]

A useful way to remember who gets Medicare vs Medicaid:
Medicare - blue hair
Medicaid - ain't getting paid

 

[monstrous bubo]

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OMG this clown. Some entertaining background on Jamie Wallis:

A few years ago he had a car accident and fled the scene while wearing "a black leather PVC miniskirt, tights, dark shoes and a pearl necklace". He said he had PTSD after being raped the previous year. The court did not find him credible. A month later he said "I'm trans. Or to be more accurate, I want to be", claiming he announced this because he was being blackmailed.

By the time this all happened, he had already been separated from his wife for two years, leaving her with two little girls to raise. The oldest would now be about 12, and I bet she’s delighted this angry baboon wants to be called mummy.

This wasn’t his first brush with controversy. He has a Ph.D in astrobiology, but instead of contributing to that honourable branch of scholarship, he ran a sugar daddy website. His other companies all attracted multiple complaints to Fair Trading. Another example of terrible vetting of one’s candidates. He did not stand for re-election after his single term, presumably because Jesus Christ look at the state of him.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Tony Reed sperging on the Medicaid ban.

Gap Tooth is obviously reading a ChatGPT generated script of the screen.

1:25

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

Wonderful news! There is no reason for the taxpayers to subsidize your fetish.

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This is really wonderful news! Now autistic kids won't be getting sterilized by the state! Or by the mothers/fathers on Medicaid.

 

[monstrous bubo]

A new court case in Australia will put transition and standards of care under the microscope, similar to the Keira Bell case in the UK but with waaaay more red flags. Meet Mel Jefferies, who claims her care didn’t even comply with the WPATH standards, and she was too obviously nuts to make life-changing decisions. She also has some interesting comments about the trans community’s manipulation. Sure, it could all be self-serving exaggeration or lies, but she has the disturbing psychiatric records to back her up.



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[The Morning Visitor]

No.

The party's relationship with T+ is over.

They are clinging for dear life to those first three letters. Their only way out (aside from being normal for once) is to continue using homosexuals to feign legitimacy.

Medicare is for seniors. Medicaid is for indigent and disabled. The similar names are confusing.

I can't speak for Medicaid, because my state instead uses a program called Medi-Cal, but Medi-Cal is for low-income plebs. Medicare has three qualifying conditions:

1. Ages 65 or older,
2. Disability,
3. End Stage Renal Disease (ESRD)

So everyone that makes it to 65 will get Medicare, and some people get it earlier due to cognitive or physical impairment. People with ESRD are pretty much an outlier because you don't live long with that condition. Some of these folks over 65 and a lot of windowlickers come from low-income households and also qualify for Medi-Cal, and the double coverage is often abbreviated to Medi-Medi. I am assuming Medicaid works the same way outside of California.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

I can't speak for Medicaid, because my state instead uses a program called Medi-Cal

That's federally funded Medicaid. My state has a different name for it too, presumably to hide what it is and remove some stigma, but it's the same thing.

Troonery is not healthcare.

That will be a real game changer if it passes the Senate. https://archive.ph/Y5X5q

28 percent of transgender adults in the U.S. get their health insurance through Medicaid, and 6 percent are insured through healthcare.gov or marketplace plans, meaning House Republicans’ sprawling package, which also prohibits “gender transition procedures” from being an “essential health benefit” under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), would impact roughly a third of trans adults nationwide

An estimated 276,000 transgender adults were enrolled in Medicaid in 2022

In the SRS and GRS thread there are frequent mentions that their botched or complication riddled surgeries were paid for by Medicaid.

The number of transgender minors covered by Medicaid is unclear. KFF, a nonprofit health policy research, polling and news organization, estimates that Medicaid covers roughly 39 percent of children and teens in the U.S. overall.

The USA has almost 40% of ALL its minors on Medicaid. JFC. We're running on fumes.

The bill that passed the House Thursday would not prohibit ACA health plans from covering gender-affirming care outright, but it would restrict care by making it effectively unaffordable, said Lindsey Dawson, director for LGBTQ health policy at KFF.

Kek. Suffah troons.

 

[UncleTusky]

In the SRS and GRS thread there are frequent mentions that their botched or complication riddled surgeries were paid for by Medicaid.

And because Medicaid pays less than private insurance, the doctors who take it tend to go for sheer volume to make up the difference. Kathy 'the Butcher of Ardmore' Rumer is infamous for this, she openly advertises being the only in-network SRS doctor for Pennsylvania's Medicaid program and claimed to perform 200-250 surgeries / year in the complaint for her libel lolsuit (Paragraph 7 on PDF Page 5); if the latter number is true she does a surgery every single day except for holidays and weekends.

I get that surgeons have to, you know, do surgery to make a living but it is surprising that insurance companies, consultations, follow ups, etc. don't eat up a few days a month.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

But the study doesn't actually show that Fat Dumb Gay Al.

Systematic Medical Evidence Review of Hormonal Transgender Treatment Report

 

[I call shenanigans]

Her case, filed by Slater and Gordon solicitor

Slater and Gordon are no ambulance chasers. As a well known medical negligence litigator in Australia, who also work on a “No win, no pay” basis, they ONLY take on cases that have been pretty much proven before they lift a finger themselves. By “proven” I’m suggesting things like an AHPRA ruling against the medical practioners, because they have already been judged by a panel of peers and experts, which is the bar a trial will require being met for victory. It’s a freaking long and drawn out process though, so don’t hold your breath waiting for an outcome.

Jefferies has requested a judge-only trial, two of the defendants want a jury.

The defendants are fools if they think they’ve got a better chance with a jury than a judge-only. Any jury is going to contain many transphobes along with people who will have pity for this mentally ill (and unstable) young woman who got sucked in by the gender affirming care model.

While part of me would like to see these type of cases won by the transgenders, in the hope it will lead to much stronger gatekeeping of these treatments/surgeries, the other part doesn’t want to see them rewarded for their stupidity in the the first place, setting a precedent for others to join in on the gravy train. I suspect though that much of the financial judgement will be eaten up by very expensive legal fees. The only real winners, as is usually the case in Australia with medical negligence cases, will be the lawyers. We are not like the US when it comes to medical negligence. The bar for proof is set very high, and the Heads of Damages (used to calculate compensation) don’t make millionaires. All they give here is lost wages, pain and suffering, and out of pocket medical expenses. In this case the woman was very mentally ill (so likely on a government pension therefore no lost income), went through the public health system (so no out of pocket medical expenses to speak of), so she’ll only get a pain and suffering payment, and only then if she lives long enough to get a judgement. Plus Slater and Gordon’s fees will have to come out of that payment.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Robert Wintemute is a professor of human rights law with a long track record in trans rights. He was part of the group which drafted the 2007 Yogyakarta Principles on sexual orientation and gender identity, which were used as the justification for subsequent law reforms. Well look who has peaked…


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He has a new book coming out, Transgender Rights vs Women’s Rights, which will be of interest to lawfags here:

In writing it, I realised that I had been wrong to assume, for many years, that anything the movement proposed must be reasonable. The escalation of demands I belatedly noticed made me go back to the start and ask myself: was change of legal sex ever justifiable?

Ouch!

Not content with burning that bridge, he’s decided to annoy another bunch of crazies.



BTW, the law school at his employer King’s College London has a wonderfully appropriate name: The Dickson Poon School of Law.

 

[quaawaa]

Trump threatens to cut off California's federal funding because they let a man play in women's sports:

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[Anasa Tristis]

Well look who has peaked…

It's all smug Right Side of History until you encounter insane trannies howling for your blood on the other side of a door.

There is no human right to documents that are biologically false. An individual’s birth sex never changes, regardless of any medical treatment they receive.

No shit, Mr. Human Rights Law Professor.

The release date for his book is May 30.

Robert Wintemute carefully examines these conflicts, considers the differences between transgender rights and lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) rights, and proposes ways to achieve co-existence between transgender rights and women’s and children’s rights.

"Achieve co-existence"? Good luck with that.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

Trump threatens to cut off California's federal funding because they let a man play in women's sports:
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Tired of dribbling in foreign policy circles, he lines up a slam dunk that will bring cheers from the bleachers.

"Achieve co-existence"? Good luck with that.

They are the most stubborn group in existence. Because of their constant boundary pushing and refusal to give back an inch when they're wrong, normal folks went from "I guess it's not hurting anyone" to "Leave the women and children alone" to "TTD, bring back the asylums and keep them locked up". It will take mass involuntary psych incarceration to break them of their political will.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Trump threatens to cut off California's federal funding because they let a man play in women's sports:

He should.
They know the rules, they've stuck two fingers up and carried on sucking girl cock.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Someone thought that this was a good idea.

'Heightened Scrutiny' details the high-stakes Supreme Court case over trans health care

The new documentary follows ACLU lawyer pooner Chase Strangio as he argues before the high court against Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Colorado continues to career its way to total moral destruction (in a two-man race with California, I guess): it's now illegal to deadname and refuse the pronouns of a person in any public accommodation (including at work).

 

[Ed Special]

Someone thought that this was a good idea.

'Heightened Scrutiny' details the high-stakes Supreme Court case over trans health care

The new documentary follows ACLU lawyer pooner Chase Strangio as he argues before the high court against Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors.

For once, I'm actually hoping for the SCOTUS to take an activist stance on this case, because I DESPERATELY want them to give us backdoor legislation to federally ban the abomination of child castration and mutilation under the guise of "gender affirmation". Alliteration.

 

[Écho Öwl]

5$ that Alberta will quote the cass report. For those not on the know, Alberta is the closest to a “red state” in freedom parlance that Canada has.

Even spicier is the scotus also rules for Tennessee.

Canadian Medical Association to file legal challenge over Alberta law limiting access to treatment for transgender youth​

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