🐱 Trans men and non-binary people explain why toxic cervix discourse is a reductive distraction

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An anti-trans debate on cervixes is again raging both online and in real life, as mostly cisgender people argue over whether “only women have a cervix”.

Labour leader Keir Starmer touched on the subject in an interview with Andrew Marr, in which he insisted that saying “only women have a cervix” was “not right”. However, he was closely followed by health secretary Sajid Javid, who wrongly claimed it was “scientific fact” that only women have cervixes.

To put the conversation into perspective, three trans and non-binary people with cervixes have told PinkNews about what really matters – effective and inclusive healthcare for all people with cervixes, regardless of their gender.


Journalist and trans dad Freddy McConnell said: “The simple fact is that some, if not most, trans men and non-binary people do have a cervix.

“It’s bizarre for our health secretary to state otherwise for any reason. I wish non-trans people could remember that they are not defined by their body parts and then extend that human rights principle to trans people.”

Until this fact is “established and respected”, the discourse over who does and who doesn’t have a cervix simply distracts from “meaningful conversation about the challenges trans people face accessing healthcare, whether that be timely surgery for those in need of hysterectomies or screenings and inclusive reproductive health care for those who are not”.


Last year, the UK’s leading cervical cancer charity, Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust, was forced to wade in to the same “debate”, and stress that some trans men, as well as some intersex and non-binary people, also have cervixes.

The charity highlighted the very real danger of excluding trans, non-binary and intersex people with cervixes from messaging about cervical cancer.

While McConnell said he is “lucky to have a brilliant GP”, the exclusion of trans people in gynaecological healthcare means that even for him it is difficult to access the services he needs.



“My local surgery still cannot work out how to automatically invite me for cervical screenings,” McConnell said.

“So it involves extra work and stress on everyone’s part. That just doesn’t make sense for an already overstretched NHS.

“Making trans inclusion ‘the norm’ and standardising it across NHS IT systems would ultimately save money and time, as well as ensuring many more people were kept safe and well-looked after.


“In my experience, it’s almost never individuals who are opposed to trans-inclusive healthcare. Rather, it’s the systems and bureaucracies they are forced to work within that create resistance.”

Fox Fisher, a non-binary trans masculine person with a cervix, just wants to ‘feel safe to use services’ they need​

Author Fox Fisher said that for them, the problem is not only in being notified of essential healthcare services, but that even with access to them, they can feel unsafe. As a trans masculine non-binary person, they said, they have had to “take their healthcare into their own hands”.


“For many years I ‘slipped the net’ and didn’t get any letters about having a cervical screening.

“Over the years I have had findings of abnormal cells and had to have a colposcopy quite early in my transition.”


Luckily, they have been able to access inclusive screening services at places like Clinic T in Brighton, and CliniQ in London, while avoiding general services “for good reason”.

They continued: “I’m afraid of being misgendered, not being understood, them assuming my sexuality, having to answer invasive questions or them using terminology or language that’s not sensitive and caring.”

This month, they had to undergo surgery, and experienced just what they had been afraid of.

Fisher said: “As soon as I told the healthcare professional I was trans, she wanted me to take a pregnancy test. She didn’t even ask who my partner was or if I was even having sex, whether I was on hormones, or anything.


“I just felt like a lot was assumed about me and they were too ill-informed or awkward to just ask me the questions they needed to ask.

“I wish health care professionals would be more mindful and actually learn about our lives and realities, so they can be confident in having these conversations with us, and so that we feel safe to use services that we need.”

Advocating for trans men and non-binary people accessing healthcare services in no way ‘invalidates the experiences’ of cis women​


Connor Scott-Gardner is a disability rights activist who recently came out as a trans man less than two months ago. Yet in that short time, he has already encountered problems accessing cervical screening services.

He said: “When registering for the GP, questions about certain types of healthcare only showed depending on your answers on the form.

“If I ticked that I was male, I wouldn’t see questions about women’s healthcare. This meant I had to choose between choosing the wrong gender for myself, or not being able to share that I also need access to cervical screenings.”


Scott-Gardner explained what so many people involved in “debating” trans peoples’ bodies fail to understand.

He said: “I wish wider society understood that I don’t want to take anything away from anyone… I’m not trying to take anything away from women.

“When I say that not only women need this type of healthcare, I’m not trying to invalidate biology, or the experiences of women. I’m speaking honestly about who needs access to services and who we must consider when we’re advocating for the policies that will govern how the NHS functions.”

He added: “At the end of the day I just want to live my life. I want to go to university, to get a job, to maybe date at some point. I want to go out with my friends and go rock climbing and skating and try new things.


“I have exactly the same wants and needs as anyone else. All I’m asking is that people recognise me as a whole human being.

“I’m so tired of people arguing about my legitimacy. It’s degrading and uncomfortable. I face so much scrutiny already as a disabled person, and yet the kind of debates that surround the validity of trans people feel so much more dangerous. All I want is to live my life.”
 
oh shut the fuck up and 41% already

thanks for peaking so many people in the past week
 
"You can't put people in kafka traps to destroy them! That's our strategy! And you're using our dogma, too!"
When a statement claimed "reductive" by a leftist, that means it cannot be addressed without exposing contradictions in their belief system so the topic must be changed.
 
If you are a chick, and change all your government IDs/info to no longer state that you're a female, that sounds like a "you" problem.
Women don't forget they are still women, even if they lop of portions of their anatomy. If they don't make sure to let their Drs know they are actually female, that is no one else's responsibility.
 
I genuinely reckon it's getting to the point where these freaks are becoming so insufferable to the majority of the population it would be a vote winner to tell them all to fuck off.
 
If you deny being female, than you should no longer get access to women’s health care.

Women talk about MTF troons taking over sex-segregated spaces, but it’s these delusional, self-loathing FTMs that are really fucking over the rest of us.
 
"When I say that not only women need this type of healthcare, I’m not trying to invalidate biology,"

...she said, as she denied her own biological reality.
 
"The simple fact is that some, if not most, trans men and non-binary people do have a cervix."

GEE I wonder why! Could it be because they're FEMALE?
 
“I just felt like a lot was assumed about me and they were too ill-informed or awkward to just ask me the questions they needed to ask.

“I wish health care professionals would be more mindful and actually learn about our lives and realities, so they can be confident in having these conversations with us, and so that we feel safe to use services that we need.”
Nurses and doctors literally don't have time for your self-indulgent twattery. A relative of mine had to wait four hours for treatment. Have you had to sit in A&E recently?
 
"You can't put people in kafka traps to destroy them! That's our strategy! And you're using our dogma, too!"
When a statement claimed "reductive" by a leftist, that means it cannot be addressed without exposing contradictions in their belief system so the topic must be changed.
The thicker the academic jargon, the weaker the position of it's holder.
 
No no, you said there are "bodies with vaginas" instead of women, and so that's what you are and shall be called. You're just a hole now. Thanks, intersectional feminism.
 
Interesting that part of the reason for this article is a name not present in the article but very present in the links is Rosie Duffield.


Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said he has spoken to MP Rosie Duffield over the party's stance on transgender issues.
Ms Duffield will not be attending this year's party conference because of online threats to her safety.
The Canterbury MP has clashed with campaigners over her views on self identification for trans people.
Sir Keir said: "The debate must be with integrity, people must be able to come to conference.
"I've spoken to Rosie Duffield on a number of occasions, including this week, to make it absolutely clear that as a matter of principle everybody must be able to attend Labour Party conference and feel safe and secure in doing so."

Trans people 'most marginalised'​

Ms Duffield has regularly used social media to outline her own position on transgender issues.
She believes there should be protected spaces where those born male are not allowed to go, such as domestic violence refuges and prisons, and she is against people being able to self-identify as trans to gain access to those spaces.
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of next week's conference in Brighton, Sir Keir said: "The trans communities are among the most marginalised communities... therefore we have to find a way forward, the current legislation I don't think works in the way that it should.
"We should have a process for self-identification, but I'm equally clear that the equalities legislation applies, and that means that in certain circumstances there can be an exemption.
"That's been Labour Party policy, actually common sense, for a long time, and we went through that with Rosie and with others this week."
Presentational grey line

Analysis​

By Charlotte Wright, BBC South East Political Editor
This is an issue that many feel passionately about because it gets to the heart of important themes like gender and identity.
Some, including Ms Duffield, believe spaces like domestic violence refuges should not be accessible to people born male.
Others, like Brighton Kemptown's MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle, say a blanket ban on trans people would be discriminatory.
Sir Keir Starmer says he's sticking to the provision outlined in the 2010 Equality Act.
But some are still calling for more clarity from the Labour leader on how the law should work in practice.
 
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