Todd In The Shadows

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Is Todd In The Shadows a lolcow?

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Ron Jeremy Stan Account dijo:
The last time I watched a Trainwreckords video by Todd regarding Metallica, he took some unnecessary pop shots at James for no reason. What did he do for this one?
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Mostly pointed out that the juxtaposition of Metallica and Lou Reed was jarring and disjointed. It was 80% Lou Reed and 20% Metallica, with the focus on the literary basis of Lulu and many "I am the table" jokes.
 
Ninon42 dijo:
Mostly pointed out that the juxtaposition of Metallica and Lou Reed was jarring and disjointed. It was 80% Lou Reed and 20% Metallica, with the focus on the literary basis of Lulu and many "I am the table" jokes.
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So in other words, nothing new to add to the countless other music review channels that have repeatedly mocked this album since it was released. Makes sense.
 
Ron Jeremy Stan Account dijo:
So in other words, nothing new to add to the countless other music review channels that have repeatedly mocked this album since it was released. Makes sense.
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I know Todd said that this is rooted in something he’s particularly interested in, and more power to him for that (OHW is something similar), but if this is what TW amounts to, then it’s probably just another reason to just skip TW, since my main one is that “album that wrecked career trajectory” isn’t really something that interests me since a lot of the time, these artists have already had the track(s) that provide the soundtrack to their careers (and the tribute to their careers), and can even have a redemption arc or a return to their pre TW status if possible.
 
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Random Internet Person dijo:
I know Todd said that this is rooted in something he’s particularly interested in, and more power to him for that (OHW is something similar), but if this is what TW amounts to, then it’s probably just another reason to just skip TW, since my main one is that “album that wrecked career trajectory” isn’t really Something that interests me since a lot of the time, these artists have already had the track(s) that provide the soundtrack to their careers (and the tribute to their careers), and can even have a redemption arc or a return to their pre TW status if possible.
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Trainwreckords would work great as an oddities spotlight, or to show what happened when an established artist tried something different and it blew up in their face. It kind of already is, anyway. There was that L Ron Hubbard album he covered a couple years ago that was more curio than anything, for example. Lulu wasn’t (much) a career killer either, but it’s definitely an oddball in Metallica’s discography in a way that St Anger isn’t.

One Hit Wonderland is also full of novelty songs or songs that went big despite being atypical from the artist’s other output. It works fine, if you ignore the criteria used. Trainwreckords being the negative companion of that fits.
 
toilet_rainbow dijo:
Trainwreckords would work great as an oddities spotlight, or to show what happened when an established artist tried something different and it blew up in their face. It kind of already is, anyway. There was that L Ron Hubbard album he covered a couple years ago that was more curio than anything, for example. Lulu wasn’t (much) a career killer either, but it’s definitely an oddball in Metallica’s discography in a way that St Anger isn’t.
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He even admits in the video that Lulu doesn't really count since Lou Reed died and was never really a mainstream success outside of a couple of songs.

The problem is that, as you said, there are plenty of interesting albums to talk about but because Todd has such a narrow definition of what he covers he never touches them. He references the UK pop scene between the 80s and 00s, which he seems to also enjoy, but refuses to do retrospectives on songs from that era unless they were hits in America, and only if they were one hit wonders. Hell, two years ago was the 30th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death, he could have done a Nirvana retrospective for that. But he won't because... for some reason, he just won't.
 
He’s missing out on tons of content because of arbitrary restrictions he placed on himself. And nobody’s holding him to these restrictions besides himself. There’s something off-putting and bizarre about people who are this legalistic.
 
Trainwreckords should just be an umbrella series for albums that bombed tremendously, regardless of it actually ruined a band's career or whether or not Todd personally disliked the album. Van Halen III was a total flop, but it didn't ruin the band; they just kind of pretended like it never happened. Mardi Gras by CCR was less-than-good but still had a handful of gems. It's just a shame that it was the band's final album, so they broke up on a low note. And as for St. Anger, last I checked Metallica is still one of the most popular and commercially successful rock bands in history, even 22 years later. Be Here Now by Oasis sold well, gave us some big hits, and the general consensus from people I know is that they enjoy it.

Looking back at it now off the top of my head, most of the albums in this series weren't career killers, but were just black smudges in a musician's discography. I mean, although Todd claims Kilroy Was Here ruined Styx – which technically was actually what led to the band's downfall – Todd himself initially proclaimed how much he hates the band, so his review is biased. Plus that album brought us probably one of Styx's biggest hit ever, so there's that.

Basically, the point I'm making is that Todd should have just stuck to an easy and broad formula of "This band is good, but" + "This album was a huge failure.", then he could make countless videos in this series with plenty of material, rather than having a strict criterion for what he considers a Trainwreckord.
 
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Ron Jeremy Stan Account dijo:
Trainwreckords should just be an umbrella series for albums that bombed tremendously, regardless of it actually ruined a band's career or whether or not Todd personally disliked the album. Van Halen III was a total flop, but it didn't ruin the band; they just kind of pretended like it never happened. Mardi Gras by CCR was less-than-good but still had a handful of gems. It's just a shame that it was the band's final album, so they broke up on a low note. And as for St. Anger, last I checked Metallica is still one of the most popular and commercially successful rock bands in history, even 22 years later. Be Here Now by Oasis sold well, gave us some big hits, and the general consensus from people I know is that they enjoy it.

Looking back at it now off the top of my head, most of the albums in this series weren't career killers, but were just black smudges in a musician's discography. I mean, although Todd claims Kilroy Was Here ruined Styx – which technically was actually what led to the band's downfall – Todd himself initially proclaimed how much he hates the band, so his review is biased. Plus that album brought us probably one of Styx's biggest hit ever, so there's that.

Basically, the point I'm making is that Todd should have just stuck to an easy and briad formula of "This band is good, but" + "This album was a huge failure.", then he could make countless videos in this series with plenty of material, rather than having a strict criterion for what he considers a Trainwreckord.
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What ruined Styx was Babe becoming such a huge hit, followed by Paradise Theatre taking them into the realm of concept albums which gave Dennis DeYoung more influence and the rest of the band didn't like it.

Bands falling apart after a huge success usually isn't instant, it takes another album or two for it to really collapse. Same thing with movie series. It isn't the first bad entry in the series that kills things, because momentum will carry a turd to nearly the success of the last entry. This has caused good follow-ups to bad movies to flop because the bad one drove everyone away from the recovery.

One example in music would be Run-DMC. Raising Hell sold massively, Tougher Than Leather sold almost as well, but was regarded as not as good as Raising Hell, Back From Hell flopped so hard that even fans of the group didn't realize it even came out and thought Down With The King was their first album since Tougher.
 
Slighly Used Gum dijo:
Watching the Macklemore video, and is there any truth to Todd's claims that Macklemore simply being a white rapper made him stand out? I don't exactly follow rap, but he didn't break through until 2011/2012, not 1997 or anything. Was a white rapper really some kind of mindblowing concept by then?
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Most of them were niche or underground or one-hit wonders. Eminem was probably the only one to be mainstream with a large number of hits. Mac Miller got famous around that time, but he wasn’t internationally known.
 
Tommy John Surgery dijo:
Doja Cat is still around (the edge was private but she's took the mask off now).
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Doja definitely has an interesting background growing up in a hindu commune, being south african and showing feet in racial chatrooms, but it seems like her wave of fame is already on the heavy downhill by now.

Ariana has a ton of material to work with tho, from nickelodeon child star already rumoured to have been a huge bully to her shows lead, then getting her start as both a popstar and a serial homewrecker, temporarily changing her race (and in fact completely copying the speaking voice and mannerisms of her friend victoria monet too), experiencing a literal terrorist attack, breaking up with a celeb boyfriend only to then get engaged to a different celeb a month later, then the ex dies and she dumps her fiance and also hits peak career.

Then she gets married to some normie real estate dude during covid, tries to pivot to acting, where 4 things happen: 1, she becomes white again, but more than shes ever been with her skin and hair being as pasty as possible and severely changing her voice and mannerisms too. 2, she gets into an extremely controversial affair with a dude with a wife and a baby while she herself is also married, and the dude isnt even hot and instead an instant joke since his biggest role was spongebob in the spongebob musical. 3, she releases an album that flops. 4, she and the entire wicked cast seem like theyre in a cult, and her and her main costar are especially weird and codependant launching a bunch of mocking memes.

Then wicked 1 is kinda successful, but wicked 2 flops and any acting roles she gets offered are shit. Then she hastily slaps together a tour to revive her music career that started a few days ago, but in the meantime she's become an extreme skelly, and i wouldnt be suprised if she were to actually keel over and die in the middle of it. Would make for good cinema tho, even if youd need like 10 different actresses to portray her.

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