Time Travel arguments

[anon483637]

No, it's the same sort of knowledge. I can use math to prove just how much my hand will burn without actually needing to test it myself. Just like I can use math to prove I cannot violate causality. You can make all the special pleadings to some silly model of cosmology you want, but I bet those models don't describe the universe very well (and no, you don't need some dubious concept like dark matter to prove causality can't be violated).

Come back when you understand what a mathematical proof is. Right now you're so ignorant you can't even understand that you're wrong.

"There are infinite prime numbers" - mathematically provable

"I will burn myself on a hot stove" - not mathematically provable

 

[Grub]

@Mewtwo_Rain Your theories reminded me of a story I ran across on Reddit once. This one. To summarize, dude got attacked, but survived and went on to have a full and happy life, with a job and a wife and a kid, and this lasts for DECADES (or so he thinks).... but then he one day notices this one lamp just does not look right, and he becomes obsessed with it to the point it drives away his wife etc and he just becomes more obsessed with trying to figure this lamp out.... then he wakes up, and it turns out he has not lived decades but in fact is just waking up from being attacked. But apparently the dream was so convincing that as far as his mental state is concerned it counted as a lifetime.

Since I do lucid dreaming experiments and I in general have an interest in dreams, I have occasionally seen stuff like this crop up personally--though never to this extent. One actually involved time travel, and I remember being disappointed when I woke up and it was still plain old present day.

(Of course, this raises the question of what exactly "dreams" are. I've heard a lot of the common explanations but they just don't sit right with me).

This reminds me of experiences I've read or heard from people about doing salvia. People who end up living entire lifetimes or longer in the span of 10 minutes or so. One of the most fucked up ones I remember reading was a guy who spent multiple generations as a flake of paint on a wall in some house. He watched multiple generations of people live and die in the house and he was the flake of paint. He always had been, that was his existence. It was something like 100 years that passed for him as that flake of paint but it was only like 10-15 minutes of actual time.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's as well-established as "you will be burned by putting your hand on a hot stove."

I'm pretty sure that's induction.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I don't know much about time travel, but I do know that the argument of "If it's been invented we would have come back and given us the technology" is a retarded stance to take.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Come back when you understand what a mathematical proof is. Right now you're so ignorant you can't even understand that you're wrong.

"There are infinite prime numbers" - mathematically provable

"I will burn myself on a hot stove" - not mathematically provable

And now you're trying to conflate me using the word "prove" with the formal concept of a mathematical proof. You're right, it isn't a mathematical proof, but I can use mathematics to logically prove it will happen using the math used to describe thermodynamics.

What exactly is your objection to the widely accepted math that proves time travel is impossible due to causality violations? Because you're sad those mean old physicists said it's physically impossible to go back in time and sex up your grandmother before she got all old?