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Null dijo:
I've thought about this a lot, actually. Banning lolcows is a buzzkill, but there cannot simultaneously be a discussion about them and with them. I'm stumped at what I can do about it.
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My two cents would be to perhaps tie moderation and the post rating system together in a sense. Posts that are weeny or attention whoring are naturally going to get dinged with negatives. Past a certain threshold, say five for example, those posts are automatically hidden or placed into a moderation queue that isn't visible to regular users. Moderators could intervene and manually "approve" a post if it gets hidden but was still a worthwhile or opinionated contribution.

I will say that cows being here is not inherently bad, as pointed out with people like AFemininePad and Half-Dude, but all too often it comes with the potential for a thread to just go to shit when someone wants to be the next Clyde Cash.
 
Probably a shit idea, but maybe add a "Lolcow in thread" label, or something to that effect and add some kind of ability to "report" a thread for getting too spergy (I wouldn't want it to be combined with the actual report feature, just like a single button next the thread name or something similar). So if it gets enough reports a mod can swoop in and take appropriate action.

Not the best solution I'm sure, but I figured there's no harm in throwing it out there.
 
Null dijo:
An idea is that we can have Grilled Cheese 2 and make a private forum that's a "War Room" for dealing with lolcows on the board.
Inversely, we can have a "Takedown / Complaints" board that lolcows are forced to talk in if they want to participate.
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Those both sound like pretty strong ideas, depending on the scale of the cow.
 
Reddit Avenger dijo:
add some kind of ability to "report" a thread for getting too spergy (I wouldn't want it to be combined with the actual report feature, just like a single button next the thread name or something similar).
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My fear is that this will replace people reporting individual posts, something we're having too little of in the first place. Yeah, we have the plague level flags for Community Watch threads, but if people would take to reporting the thread instead of individual posts, two problems arise :
#1. : Threads can get humongous, which means that if the sperg level of the thread rises but there are next to no reports pointing to individual posts, moderators/janitors would have to comb over dozens of pages in the threads full of near-similar replies and guess where the problems are.
#2. : The overall discussion in threads can suffer when janitors/mods are directed to "clean up spergery" without being directed to the posts that are posing the problem, so it might lead to overdeletions and unnecessary thread locks for cleanup which means that everybody posting in the thread will suffer for the actions of a few posts that are deemed spergy.
If several reports come from the same thread in a short span of time, staff will usually know that something's up with the thread.
 
Null dijo:
I've thought about this a lot, actually. Banning lolcows is a buzzkill, but there cannot simultaneously be a discussion about them and with them. I'm stumped at what I can do about it.
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What about threadbanning/temp threadbanning the people who make blatant "notice me senpai" posts? It's one thing to make a post addressing the lolcows points but so many people pile on with insults and one liners just to try to rile them up and get a shoutout. Thats what really ruins those threads, IMO.
Maybe you could even
make a rating for it
I feel like a good example of lolcow interaction is the Iconoclast thread. Sweet doesn't post here, he posts about us on deviantart. Most of the posts addressing him back are, comparatively, high quality. But, maybe this is too much of a special situation where he's a niche cow without so many cool guys like more popular threads get, and he's willingly separated himself in a way where he still engages us but not quite as much as posting here directly.
 
Clown Doll dijo:
My fear is that this will replace people reporting individual posts, something we're having too little of in the first place. Yeah, we have the plague level flags for Community Watch threads, but if people would take to reporting the thread instead of individual posts, two problems arise :
#1. : Threads can get humongous, which means that if the sperg level of the thread rises but there are next to no reports pointing to individual posts, moderators/janitors would have to comb over dozens of pages in the threads full of near-similar replies and guess where the problems are.
#2. : The overall discussion in threads can suffer when janitors/mods are directed to "clean up spergery" without being directed to the posts that are posing the problem, so it might lead to overdeletions and unnecessary thread locks for cleanup which means that everybody posting in the thread will suffer for the actions of a few posts that are deemed spergy.
If several reports come from the same thread in a short span of time, staff will usually know that something's up with the thread.
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Maybe you could tag certain posts that you think are problematic kinda like a multi-quote ('notice me shaner-senpai~', I hope x gets raped in murdered by bubba x1000, etc.), so when you do press the 'sperg alert' button or whatever you wanna call it, instead of just saying "this thread is going to shit" it would say "this thread is going to shit and persons x, y, and z are contributing to it".

Of course this is all baseless hypotheticals since I don't know the potential limitations of whatever software this forum uses so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything.
 
Strelok dijo:
No don't nuke it, CW acts as a wonderful quarantine, where before these threads would be shitting up the other boards.
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Yeah, it's much easier to keep it all in one place, and not all the threads here are terrible. dA Horrors is always...

Well, I don't want to say "good." It's awful. It makes me want to gag. But in that sense, it is fulfilling its intended purpose. I go to that thread and usually find the content I'm looking for - and god help me for looking for it in the first place.
 
I like the idea of threadbanning spergs and attention whores. That's a far more direct way of saying what I was trying to get to in my long-winded post earlier.
 
I really feel that lolcows who join the farms should be addressed on a case by case basis. Some cows on the farms are perfectly benign, or even make their thread funnier (ie. barneyfag), while others need a leash so they don't screw up everything (ie. Fuckbot, Shaner.)

Also, this may be a stupid question but what exactly is and isn't reportable? I'm still new to forums based off chan-rules, so I can never tell when something is "notice me sempai" or :alog: enough to warrant mod attention, and when I'd just be wasting their time.
 
2003 dijo:
I really feel that lolcows who join the farms should be addressed on a case by case basis. Some cows on the farms are perfectly benign, or even make their thread funnier (ie. barneyfag), while others need a leash so they don't screw up everything (ie. Fuckbot, Shaner.)

Also, this may be a stupid question but what exactly is and isn't reportable? I'm still new to forums based off chan-rules, so I can never tell when something is "notice me sempai" or :alog: enough to warrant mod attention, and when I'd just be wasting their time.
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If they're already a mod on the Kiwi Farms you couldn't waste their time if you tried so report all you want.
 
2003 dijo:
Also, this may be a stupid question but what exactly is and isn't reportable? I'm still new to forums based off chan-rules, so I can never tell when something is "notice me sempai" or :alog: enough to warrant mod attention, and when I'd just be wasting their time.
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Way more shit is reportable than is actually reported.
 
2003 dijo:
I really feel that lolcows who join the farms should be addressed on a case by case basis. Some cows on the farms are perfectly benign, or even make their thread funnier (ie. barneyfag), while others need a leash so they don't screw up everything (ie. Fuckbot, Shaner.)

Also, this may be a stupid question but what exactly is and isn't reportable? I'm still new to forums based off chan-rules, so I can never tell when something is "notice me sempai" or :alog: enough to warrant mod attention, and when I'd just be wasting their time.
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I'm not exactly an expert on kiwi kulture (original term do not steal), but in my experience it's one of those things you can't really explain and can only really get an idea of it by watching threads. If you need a place to start at the Shaner thread and the Strikerwolf threads have plenty of educational autism.

Just browse through some of the other shittier lolcow threads when it comes to this brand of attention whoring and just see what kind of post receives the most negative attention, or what the posts look like before a mod steps in and tells everyone to cut the shit. My general rule of thumb for not being a faggot is, if you're going to try and get a lolcows attention make sure it's not a beaten to death joke, a generic "lol ur retard", or something that just makes you look like you're a desperate wannabe Clyde Cash.

From then on it's simply just a matter of making judgement calls based on experience, whether they be yours or someone else's. So y'know, kind of like High School but with more trannies.

TL;DR Just lurk more friend
 
This is a pet peeve of mine, but people seem to be confusing "running gag" with "excellent post."

Guys, I just wanna say:

  • We know Dobson has a lesbian and inflation fetish and told people to calm thine tits. No one cares.
  • We know that PAB's name is Joshua Robert Barnes. No one cares.
  • We know that Chris is an autistic fucker who shits his pants. No one cares and it's extremely fucking overdone at this point.
  • We know that Wu is a pathological liar. Pointing out every single lie gets really fucking overdone at this point.
  • WHERE IS THE GAME/WALLPAPER is really fucking overdone.
And I can't believe this has to be said, but:
  • "Fuck you" is not a quality post. It makes you look like a butthurt sped.
So yeah.

2003 dijo:
Also, this may be a stupid question but what exactly is and isn't reportable? I'm still new to forums based off chan-rules, so I can never tell when something is "notice me sempai" or :alog: enough to warrant mod attention, and when I'd just be wasting their time.
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Rule of thumb:

  • Are they being overly emotional? Report.
  • Are they openly insulting a cow? Report.
  • Are they talking about how much better they are than a cow? Laugh at them, take caps to use for the inevitable halal, and then report.
 
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