This one weird trick could fix the Senate

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All voters are equal, but some voters are more equal than others. And the most equal of all live in the Equality State.

Wyoming has fewer than 435,000 eligible voters but gets two senators—the same as California, which has over 67 times as many eligible voters.

Republicans’ advantage in low-population states is part of what makes the Senate a deeply anti-democratic institution. In fact, two blue states, California and New York, together contain more people than 19 red states combined, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

That gives Republicans 38 senators—over a third of the chamber—pretty much guaranteed. New York and California give Democrats a total of four.

That means a minority of the population—one that is whiter and more conservative than the country at large—gets to decide what passes Congress, even when more progressive legislation is supported by most of the country. Heck, Republicans regularly win control of the Senate even when they win fewer overall votes in Senate races.

For example, Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso may have won reelection this year by a whopping 51 percentage points, but that figures out to less than 135,000 votes. Compare that to California, where Democrat Adam Schiff won by a relatively narrow 18 points—or, in other words, more than 2.7 million votes.

But there is a simple, if difficult, way to fix minority rule in the Senate: Make new states.

The last time the U.S. grew the union was in 1959, with Alaska and Hawaii joining in quick succession. In a flip of modern times, Alaska was seen as leaning Democratic and Hawaii Republican, and the dual admission was sold as a way to keep political balance in Washington.

While such bipartisanship is unfathomable today, the moral case for admitting Washington, D.C., as a state is obvious: Its residents are American citizens who pay taxes, and as that famous American Revolution slogan goes, there should be no taxation without representation.

And the moral case for admitting the territories isn’t much different. The people of Puerto Rico, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands are American citizens who also frequently pay federal taxes. (The one exception is perhaps American Samoa, whose residents are U.S. nationals, though they can apply for citizenship.)

Statehood would grant the territories more funding in Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants, and food assistance, according to a 2014 report about Puerto Rico statehood by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office. In turn, these new states would also contribute more in tax revenue to the broader U.S.

There are six clear candidates for statehood—plus a seventh lurking on the West Coast.

Puerto Rico​

Puerto Rico has a population of over 3.2 million, higher than 19 states—and five and a half times the size of Wyoming (584,000 people). If admitted, it would likely have four House members and the standard two senators.

Over 56% of Puerto Rico voted for statehood in November’s nonbinding referendum. That makes for the fourth consecutive referendum where Puerto Ricans have opted for statehood. But these mean nothing unless Congress acts.

In general, to admit a state, the territory must present itself to Congress by “drafting a state constitution, electing state officers, organizing a state-like territorial government, and sending an elected ‘congressional’ delegation to Washington to lobby for statehood,” according to the Congressional Research Service. Congress then must pass legislation admitting the territory, and the president needs to sign it. (This is known as the “Tennessee Plan” for statehood.)

Puerto Rico already meets a lot of those requirements. And in the 117th Congress, 62 Democratic House members and 19 Republicans co-sponsored legislation to make it a state. In 2022, the House went so far as to pass an “enabling act” that would have pushed things further—only for that act to die in the Senate, which, despite being under Democratic control, never scheduled a vote on it.

It’s hard to know how Puerto Rico would align politically if admitted as a state. This year, Democrat Kamala Harris trounced Donald Trump—73% to 27%—in its presidential straw poll, which for the first time appeared on the same ballot as local elections. If that result became consistent, Puerto Rico would be the most favorable state for Democratic presidential candidates, period. (The current No. 1 is Vermont, where Harris won 64%.)

But things aren’t so simple. For example, Puerto Rico Gov. Pedro R. Pierluisi is affiliated with the Democratic Party, but this past January, he lost in a primary to Jenniffer González-Colón, who is affiliated with the Republican Party. Again, they’re both members of the local New Progressive Party.

The reason for this? Much of the territory’s political divisions hinge on support for or opposition to statehood, independence, or the status quo. The New Progressive Party advocates statehood, and its members generally split their affiliation between the Democratic and Republican parties. The other major party in Puerto Rico—the Popular Democratic Party—favors a version of the status quo and is more aligned with Democrats than Republicans.

In other words, the state of Puerto Rico would probably be sending more Democrats than Republicans to Washington—but emphasis on probably.

Washington, D.C.​

However much partisan ambiguity you find in Puerto Rico, you get the opposite in Washington, D.C. The district holds three electoral votes and has never given them to a Republican presidential candidate. And it’s not close: Harris won it with over 90% of the vote.

So it’s no surprise that virtually every House Democrat sponsored and voted for statehood legislation when it was introduced in 2021 by Eleanor Holmes Norton, the district’s nonvoting member of the House.

However, not a single House Republican backed it. And while it still passed the House that year—Democrats controlled the chamber—it was killed in the Senate by one man: Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who was at the time a Democrat.

And yet, even if a Democratic Congress passes this legislation in the future, there’s no guarantee the Supreme Court would let it live. The 23rd Amendment to the Constitution had to be ratified to allow D.C. residents to vote in presidential elections. And there are many who believe conferring statehood on the district would require another amendment since the Constitution requires a district to house the U.S. Capitol, White House, and other federal grounds. However, pro-statehood advocates propose carving out said grounds as a way to circumvent this.

Crazy thing is, a constitutional amendment was almost adopted in 1979. The D.C. Voting Rights Amendment, which would have given the district full House and Senate representation, passed Congress and was sent to the states to ratify, but it came up 22 states short of the required 38.

Nevertheless, the District of Columbia doesn’t get a say in Congress, despite having as many people as 1.2 Wyomings.

Other territories​

And this is where things get even harder, politically speaking. America’s four other territories—American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands—all have very, very small populations. How small? The combined population of all four (338,000) is little more than half that of Wyoming, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Another hurdle? Some of these territories don’t have a clear political benefit to either party. Harris narrowly won Guam’s presidential straw poll, and while Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama won by larger margins, the territory twice backed Republican George W. Bush.

And when you look at the partisan affiliations of these territories' major lawmakers, things aren’t much clearer. The Virgin Islands is reliably Democratic, but they have fewer people (87,000) than many small cities in the U.S.

In the worst case for Democrats, they’d likely end up netting just four senators across all five territories (including Puerto Rico) and the District of Columbia. Adding the senators to the incoming Congress would look something like: Republicans 57, Democrats 55. In other words, not enough to overcome Republicans’ current majority. (But other states could close that gap too.)

Worst of all, these four territories have no active statehood movements, unlike D.C. and Puerto Rico. However, that hasn’t stopped at least one sitting Democratic senator, Brian Schatz of Hawaii, from publicly endorsing a wide expansion of statehood.

One of our highest medium term priorities must be to enfranchise - to empower, Americans in Puerto Rico, DC, Guam, American Samoa with full representation in Congress and to allow formerly incarcerated individuals to vote.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) October 6, 2018

This leads us to our last option …

The Golden States​

Virginia is known as the “Mother of States” since eight other states were carved out of land it once claimed. West Virginia, the most recent of its offspring, in 1863, has less than 1.8 million residents. California has 22 times as many.

In many ways, it makes little sense to have a state the size of California. It has the fifth-largest GDP in the world (yes, world) and the largest GDP per capita, bar none. And while its size can be wielded for progressive gain—for example, when California changes its emissions standards, the whole country changes its emissions standards—its law is nevertheless superseded by the federal government. California is an “ironclad” haven for abortion—until Donald Trump bans it federally.

The most recent ballot initiative to break up California hit in 2018, spearheaded by venture capitalist and both-sides dipshit Tim Draper, but the state Supreme Court killed it. That plan, called “Cal 3,” would have cracked the state into thirds, giving each derivative state an uninspired name: California, Northern California, and Southern California.

All three hypothetical states would have gone for Harris in 2024, two by huge margins (roughly 30 points) and one much more narrowly (2.4 points). However, given Harris’ weak performance overall, that swing-ish state gets over 5 points bluer when we factor in the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections. In other words, it’d be about as safe as New Mexico for Democrats or Ohio for Republicans.

That may not be a risk many are willing to take, though, since it gives Republicans a shot—if a difficult one—at nabbing some of California’s electoral votes. However, “Cal 3” is just one far-from-ideal plan. And it isn’t hard to draw a map that breaks California up into three or more safely Democratic states.

Of course, such a move would entail many, many other issues to sort out. First off, California’s legislature would have to vote to break up the state—i.e., state lawmakers would have to choose to give up power. And the new states would need to establish new capitals, work out water rights, how to handle their prisons … the list goes on.

All this complexity is why the past 220 attempts to break up the Golden State have failed.

But Democrats are left with few good options—and their future in the Senate appears to be growing dimmer by the year.
 
All this whining about how unfair it is that Wyoming gets too much senate power, all this elaborate rule theorycrafting, no actual Democrats even considering moving to a flyover state to shift the vote. Keeping eating shit, Idea Guy.
 
This issue is literally the fault of Public Education not properly defining that the USA is a DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and NOT a "Democracy". They're not properly teaching that straight democracy is probably the most shitty and unstable form of governance ever devised, which the Greeks figured out long ago.
My civics teacher, when such things were still done by schools instead of using the cash to secretly transition kids behind their parent's backs, actually said the purpose of the Senate is to block things. It's a check and balance within a check and balance system - the idea being to stop hare brained schemes like 99% of what California passes becoming law.

The fact 7/8ths or better of legislation dies in the Senate is it working as intended.
 
Fuck California and New York.

Just carve out the major cities in those two states, let them be extraterritorial autonomous socialist enclaves, and the non-batshit remainders of the states can be part of the Union.

That's the warning shot to other places like Chicago, Seattle, Austin, and so forth. I'm willing to bet that would get them in line fairly quickly. If not, live with the consequences of your voting decisions without assistance from the rest of us.
 
My nigger, the only way to "fix" the Senate is to repeal the 17th Ammendment that made popular election of Senators possible. They should be chosen by the State representatives, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE STATE. Popular election of Senators has fucked everything up and put disproportionate political power in the leftoid cities.

The Senate was supposed to be insulated from popular control, so it wouldn't bend to the whims of the populace, that's the fuckin' House's job, its literally why they only get two year terms vs six in the Senate. If your rep doesn't cut it, you yeet them in 2 years, the Senator is supposed to represent the interests of your State, which is why they USED to be APPOINTED to 6 year terms, NOT ELECTED.
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Giving the Senate more popular power defeats the purpose of having both a Senate and a House.

This issue is literally the fault of Public Education not properly defining that the USA is a DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and NOT a "Democracy". They're not properly teaching that straight democracy is probably the most shitty and unstable form of governance ever devised, which the Greeks figured out long ago.
People like you and the other guy in this thread who want to do away with direct election of senators needs to have their cock and balls cut off with a rusty razor blade to prevent you retards from tainting the gene pool. We have direct fucking election of senators for a reason retard, to ensure those faggots aren't unelected God kings who can openly define the will of the people because they are selected by party bosses who in turn are incentivized to use every corrupt trick in the book to seize one party re over their state.
 
That's the warning shot to other places like Chicago, Seattle, Austin, and so forth. I'm willing to bet that would get them in line fairly quickly. If not, live with the consequences of your voting decisions without assistance from the rest of us.

Austin is in a different category from the rest. It is on a very tight leash from the Republican State government and has been openly told the state will strip Austin of it's sovereignty if they don't get in line.

People like you and the other guy in this thread who want to do away with direct election of senators needs to have their cock and balls cut off with a rusty razor blade to prevent you retards from tainting the gene pool.
You're a retard. The founding fathers intended for the members of the Senate to be appointed by their respective States. The House of Representatives is meant to represent the people, the Senate was to represent the States themselves. Dumb faggots like you changed the constitution and now Democrats have incentive to import the third world for votes.
 
We have direct fucking election of senators for a reason retard, to ensure those faggots aren't unelected God kings who can openly define the will of the people because they are selected by party bosses who in turn are incentivized to use every corrupt trick
Senators answered to the State legislature that appointed them, you retard.
 
Austin is in a different category from the rest. It is on a very tight leash from the Republican State government and has been openly told the state will strip Austin of it's sovereignty if they don't get in line.
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/12/06/texas-bill-state-control-austin

Funnily enough, I had that exact bill in mind when referencing Austin. The intent behind it is solid, but it may not make it to the Governor's desk as-is. On a personal note, it sounds like a great way to tell them to get their shit together and step in line with the rest of the kids, but it's not a done deal by any means yet.

In a way, this is an interesting experiment at stopping the cancer that is killing /TX, aka 'Californians'. Having lived in CA previously and left because that state was a fucking cesspit, watching them shit all over wherever they go - even when they say they want to get away from the problems in CA that they voted for - is something that they're just unbelievably good at. Other states don't want them, Mexico City hates the ones that moved there, and the entire country of Portugal is sick of their shit. Good job, Californians. You've managed to prove that you can't go anywhere without being completely despised.
 
You weren't supposed to use mass immigration to change elections, either.

In a way, this is an interesting experiment at stopping the cancer that is killing /TX, aka 'Californians'.

Californian expats vote something like R+20 and are keeping the state red. The cancer killing Texas is "native" Texans, i.e. the children of illegal aliens and guest workers that Texans welcomed with open arms until very recently.
 
Senators answered to the State legislature that appointed them, you retard.
They don't. Historically, selected Senators were unelected douchebags who routinely did whatever the fuck they wanted and 99.9% of the time got their gig by finding a governor's run for office with it understood that the Senate seat was their payment for said funding and that they would do as they please when they got into office.

Hence my comment that you need to castrate yourself because no one except retards would want to go back to that corrupt as fuck system.
 
Californian expats vote something like R+20 and are keeping the state red. The cancer killing Texas is "native" Texans, i.e. the children of illegal aliens and guest workers that Texans welcomed with open arms until very recently.

Yes and no. It depends heavily on the CA expats who are being received. There are a good number of them who are keeping the state red, but there's no shortage of ones who have moved out and decided to go on a political crusade once they land in <insert state here>. We're dealing with it right now, and it fucking sucks. It usually starts with these people standing as 'moderate' Dems or Independents in local elections, then gradually working their way into state-level offices and positions before going full-blown leftard. It's toxic.

As for the adult anchor babies, that's a separate issue, but I'm largely in agreement. Not coincidentally, it also had a massively negative effect on California starting in the '80s.
 
2% of american landmass is occupied by cities and these niggers want the 2% bughives to control 100% of the land
these are the same people who screech about politicians they disagree with being "out of touch" btw
They'd often say "land doesn't vote, people do" when their whole MO is about changing society using smaller and smaller groups, now to the tune of 0.1%, as trojans. The realization that over half the country wouldn't vote for Harris broke them. Not to mention that not only are cities corrupt as fuck and we'll probably never know if they really "voted for it," America is a diverse place. There are hundreds of different groups with their own interests. Some grow the food. Others keep the lights on. Some take goods where they need to go. Others make sure the plumbing works. What they all have in common though, is that they were not amused when politicians pushed them aside in favor of they/them and foreign invaders.

And those politicians, plus guys like this journalist, still haven't come to terms with the fact that, no stalker child, it is you who is out of touch with the public. They have been warned, repeatedly, that they can't worsen the bread and circuses while grabbing more and more power and resources. Enjoy power loss prison.
 
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Age limit to make the average age less than fucking 75.
Better yet, term limits to 3 sessions, 18 years total in a life. Give the house 4 since they're shorter per. I'm not sure the 17th issue would change that much in the end, because the states legislatures are elected and would mostly appoint who their voters wanted anyway..

And of course this being Dailykos, they'll only say what they think will help dems. Opening the borders backlashed like the ol monkey's paw. If they start splitting states then it's possible Texas could go into 5, with 4 being deep red and CA splitting the coast from inner and being a wash.

They blew their chance to pack the USSC in 2021 when they had a slim chance to at least try, but all this trying to 'tweak the system' to get a short term gain usually backfires. The only time I've seen anything like it really work is more on the local jerrymandering levels.

ETA @FierceBrosnan lol, I was typing as you posted that.
 
You know what could "fix" the Senate; repealing the 17th Amendment and making it to where Senators are not elected via the popular vote of the state's citizens. The problem these retards have is they think the Senate is the same as the House, when it's not; The House of Representatives is the Lower Body and apportioned per the state's citizenry, while The Senate is the Upper Body and is apportioned two Senators per State. Each body is there to represent either their citizens interests or their state's interests at the federal level.

100% this! The is House is supposed to represent the interests of "The People" in the federal government, while the Senate is supposed to represent the interests of "The States" in the federal government. It's the same reason we have the Electoral College, to ensure the states themselves have a power-check against the retards in the general population. They're not supposed to be the same because they are designed to represent different interests in the goings-on of the federal government.

In the meantime, I say if they want DC & Puerto Rico in, then they have to agree to combine Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts & Rhode Island together into a new state called New England. Also, Delaware is so tiny & useless so that can just be annexed by Maryland.
 
Really they should impose term limits on Senators. Having demented old retards like Pelosi and McConnell shambling around DC and calling the shots isn't really good for the country.
I propose cognitive and health test, every two years.

Also; Knowing lying to your constituents is treason, punishable by death.

Any insider trading is treason.

Breaking an election promise, unless blocked by the opposing party is treason.
 
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