This is Spinal Tap 2

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Just came across this. I had no idea they were making a Spinal Tap sequel. I doubt it's going to be as good as the original but it didn't seem too bad from the trailer. It's the first movie trailer I've seen in a while I've at least been a little bit interested in anyway.
 
A Spinal Tap sequel is so unnecessary that they made a completely unrelated movie in the same style instead, just like Super Troopers. And just like Super Troopers 2, this is going to suck.
 
This made me remember another film they did about folk music, A Mighty Wind. They even have a bass singer from one group (played by Harry Shearer) troon out. Bet they wouldn't have the balls to do that now. Especially with Christopher Guest's creepy troon son.

Loved the original Spinal Tap, will probably watch this but won't get my hope up.
 
My starting point with this is the same as for The Naked Gun sequel/remake/whatever it is. It might be better than what Hollywood currently puts out. It might, in isolation be a funny film that can stand on it's own terms.

But.... if I watch it am I going to have that nagging voice at the back of my mind constantly saying, "It's OK but This is Spinal Tap was so much better"? My expectation is that I will and unless and until that changes I don't see the point. Why watch a slightly tragic knock off when I could just watch the original masterpiece again (or any other comedy that was made more than 20 years ago that has a good reputation).
 
Guest (and the mockumentary formula itself) had totally lost steam by time he made Mascots, and I've lost all interest in seeing any more from him since Fred Willard died. Reiner returning as director inspires even less confidence; given how much of his output has been smoldering trash. The only thing which could possibly elevate this unnecessary sequel to the point of being watchable is the improv chemistry between McKean, Guest, and Shearer.

The three have portrayed Spinal Tap so many times over the years that this really isn't a sequel; so much as yet another installment in them making fun of rock bands that refuse to retire:

Return of Spinal Tap:

The List:

Promoting Back From The Dead:
 
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Marc dijo:
Reiner returning as director inspires even less confidence
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The trailer has a Stormy Daniels joke. Reiner is the standard Hollywood hack who got everything because his Dad was TV royalty.
Marc dijo:
watchable is the improv chemistry between McKean, Guest, and Shearer.
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I love McKean so just like you, this is the only reason I’m giving this a shot.
 
What made the original Spinal Tap so great was that it was both comedy improv gold, and also way too close to home. Many bands, expecially R.E.M, The Misfits and Nirvana said that their touring experiences were just Spinal Tap in real life. Both Ozzy Osbourne and Eddie Van Halen found the movie too depressing rather than funny. On its pre-screening, a lot of people said the movie was good, but Reiner should have picked a more well known band. Spinal Tap feels like an out of touch rock band, with egos to boot, and that's where the ridicculousness comes from, rather than artifically putting them in stupid and it seems more relevant scenarios.

The problem with a sequel is that we're in on the joke now, and it seems from the trailer that's the angle they're playing. And I'm also extremely wary of real life cameos. Real bands were mentioned in the original, but the movie largely exists within its own universe. They have played live and had shorts with real bands before, but I don't think I could stomach an hour and a half of it. As a fan who rates the original a literal 11/10, and has watched the 4.5 hour wortcut print, I will be waiting a long time and for a very good review before watching.
 
I saw the film today. I can't imagine anyone but Spinal Tap fans possibly being entertained by some of it. It's a bad sign when you fail to become immersed in a comedy film because you're constantly thinking of how a particular joke could have been fixed or made to pay off. For example:

When the band went into the rehearsal space and did the weird acapella thing, the promoter (???) who looked at his watch should have let them know that he had only rented the space for thirty eight minutes because it was being converted to storage for easter decorations; and that they should rehearse as many songs as they could in that timeframe.

The gurlb0ss drummer should have violently died the moment she finished auditioning. Anything to earn the film's R rating.

Every song montage padding the film out should have been cut. Just because Reiner couldn't afford filming permits in N.O. doesn't mean they were prevented from filming in more locations than just two rooms.

Elton John didn't even try to be funny; so his "interview" should have been cut. In fact, the film should have been written to have zero cameos; because they caused any comedy of the film to screech to a hault any time one happened (even with McCartney trying to fit in). Every cameo in this mediocre film had the Modern Simpons Energy of Marge croaking "Logan Paul! What are you doing in Springfield?."

The drummer being a lesbo had no payoff; and shouldn't have made the cut. The limey functioning as the antagonist (who the film can't decide is a promoter, manager, agent, concierge, or personal assistant) leaving before the show to "meet his birth mother" (?!?) had no payoff; and shouldn't have made the cut.

The film is an endless series of "a joke should have gone here" placeholders outside the three funny people in the film being funny (when they're not rehashing songs we've been hearing since the original film).

Guest should have directed the film instead of Reiner. Reiner is the fat kid who has a birthday party in his backyard so the other children in class will pretend to be his friends while the cake and bouncy castle are available. The intro schtick with Reiner framed leaning against all those chairs he was obviously going to push over should have been subverted; and accurately lowered my expectations for the rest of the film. The aspect ratio of the film changed so often (due to constant cutaways to archival footage and endless B roll shots for the sake of padding) that the projectionist fucked up the aspect ratio for the entire film (the top 16th of the frame was off the screen in my theater).

The fifteen second cameos from some of the supporting characters in the first film had zero payoff or jokes. Memberberries are the lowest form of comedy. All of my critiques of the film can be summarized with the sentiment that a joke in a comedy script should be followed by another joke. Reiner believes otherwise; and the entire film suffers from this fundamental misunderstanding of what comedy is.

A final, particular criticism: "Caucasian" Jeff Vanston's audio mixing was HORRIBLE. The most egregious was during Reginald Dwight's Stonehenge performance; where it sounded as though Vanston boosted the mids of the faggot king's vocals by a dozen decibels to make it drown out the other voices.

As I predicted, the chemistry between McKean, Guest, and Shearer constitutes the only corn in the turd (which reminds me that there's a "corn in vomit" drum kit joke made in the film which also has no payoff).

Memorable moments I laughed at:

Hubbins' studio and scoring work done with GarageBand.

McKean sandbagging the International House of Rock bit by asking why he wants pancakes.

Nigel's pedalboard and cheese-holding guitar (his rig rundown with DeBergi should have lasted longer).

Any time Guest was allowed to take his tangents too far.

The two laughs Shearer got out of me were his comment about how you can't do ghost hunts during the day because he would get too scared, and casually mentioning fucking Jeanine during the end credits. He seemed to have otherwise phoned in his entire performance in the film (including his accent). His lack of enthusiasm, unwillingness to leave New Orleans for filming, and endorsement deal with Schecter were distractingly apparent.
 
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Do they at least continue to trendhop through the decades? That’s literally the only gag I was optimistic for, seeing them go grunge and numetal and emocore.
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No. In fairness to this film, Spinal Tap stopped trendhopping in their various media appearances and concerts after 1984; so that ship has long-since sailed.
 
McMitch dijo:
Semirelated: Has anyone else seen the interview of the Turtles talking about being pressured into making a successor to Happy Together? It feels like a Spinal Tap bit:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zhsmcL8Y57w
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Yes it's pretty well known those guys were jokers. They were also in The Mothers of Invention with Frank Zappa.

I haven't seen the new Spinal Tap, but I'm assuming it's a movie for boomers made by boomers with lots of baby boomer humor. I did read a review by the independent UK by a very dumb girl that kind of made me laugh. She's basically unaware of the fact that the movie is a parody of music/ rock culture and is offended by that.

Spinal Tap II: The End Continues review – a startlingly unfunny sequel

"Nigel Tufnel (Guest) is a cheesemaker – which is presented as absurd, begging the question of whether the writers were aware that’s exactly what bassist Alex James did after he left Blur?"

That in and of itself is very funny.
 
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