Disaster This $800 Emotional Support Robot for Kids Will Soon Be Bricked—Without Refunds - Taking your money and traumatizing your autistic kids



Startup Embodied is closing down, and its product, an $800 robot for kids ages 5 to 10, will soon be bricked.

Embodied blamed its closure on a failed “critical funding round." On its website, it explained:

We had secured a lead investor who was prepared to close the round. However, at the last minute, they withdrew, leaving us with no viable options to continue operations. Despite our best efforts to secure alternative funding, we were unable to find a replacement in time to sustain operations.
The company didn’t provide further details about the pulled funding. Embodied’s previous backers have included Intel Capital, Toyota AI Ventures, Amazon Alexa Fund, Sony Innovation Fund, and Vulcan Capital, but we don't know who the lead investor mentioned above is.


When it first announced Moxie in April 2020, Embodied described the robot as a “safe and engaging animate companion for children designed to help promote social, emotional, and cognitive development.” It advertised play built around “best practices in child development and early childhood education”; changing weekly themes, like empathy, friendship, and respect; and activities like meditation, reading, and drawing with the bot.

But soon, none of those features will be available, making the pricey children’s toy virtually useless. According to Embodied, Moxie can’t perform core functionality without cloud connectivity. Worse, owners apparently have an uncertain and limited amount of time until the devices are bricked. Per Embodied:

We don’t know the exact date when services will cease. It is likely to happen within days. However, we are exploring options to keep Moxie operational for as long as possible, although we cannot provide any guarantees.

Since Embodied marketed Moxie as a companion and development toy for children, there’s concern about kids potentially suffering an emotional toll after the robot abruptly becomes inoperable. Embodied has responded by promising to provide a guide for telling children about Moxie's demise. Online, however, customers are already sharing videos of their sad kids learning that their robot friend will stop playing with them, as Axios pointed out.

In addition to the robot being bricked, Embodied noted that warranties, repair services, the corresponding parent app and guides, and support staff will no longer be accessible.

“Unable to Offer Refunds”​

Embodied said it is “unable” to offer most Moxie owners refunds due to its “financial situation and impending dissolution.” The potential exception is for people who bought a Moxie within 30 days. For those customers, Embodied said that “if the company or its assets are sold, we will do our best to prioritize refunds for purchases," but it emphasized that this is not a guarantee.

The startup also acknowledged complications for those who acquired the expensive robot through a third-party lender. Embodied advised such customers to contact their lender, but it’s possible that some will end up paying interest on a toy that no longer works.

Embodied said it’s looking for another company to buy Moxie. Should that happen, the new company will receive Embodied customer data and determine how it may use it, according to Embodied’s terms of service. Otherwise, Embodied said it “securely” erases user data “in accordance with our privacy policy and applicable law,” which includes deleting personally identifiable information from Embodied systems.

Another Smart Gadget Bites the Dust​

Currently, there’s some hope that Moxies can be resurrected. Things look grim for Moxie owners, but we’ve seen failed smart device companies, like Insteon, be resurrected before. It's also possible that someone will release of an open-source version of the product, like the one made for Spotify Car Thing, which Spotify officially bricked today.

But the short-lived, expensive nature of Moxie is exactly why some groups, like right-to-repair activists, are pushing the Federal Trade Commission to more strongly regulate smart devices, particularly when it comes to disclosure and commitments around software support. With smart gadget makers trying to determine how to navigate challenging economic landscapes, the owners of various types of smart devices—from AeroGarden indoor gardening systems to Snoo bassinets—have had to deal with the consequences, including broken devices and paywalled features. Last month, the FTC noted that smart device manufacturers that don’t commit to software support may be breaking the law.

For Moxie owners, disappointment doesn’t just come from wasted money and e-waste creation but also from the pain of giving a child a tech “companion” to grow with and then have it suddenly taken away.


 
probably best to get Timmy a cat or a turtle.
Shit get one of those giant Galapagos Tortoises that guy will outlive you, your kids, their kids, and their kids, those dudes live like 200 years.
Plus they can ride it so you don't need buy them a bike.
Just make sure you homeschool because they'll be late.

These things going offline sucks for the kid but Tismbot 9000 looks fucking cursed I don't trust those things, they look evil, and that constant online connectivity makes me paranoid, thing is always listening, always watching... no thanks.
Trying to lazyass your way out of taking an interest in your kids development is peak fucking redditor.
Those parents should have seen this coming.
 
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Sure 20 years ago, with the kind of puppies at the pound has these days? probably best to get Timmy a cat or a turtle.

Gamebred dogs and kids don't mix well.

Yeah look at your local pound's online inventory and it's probably 50%+ shit bull or shit bull mix, which will be labeled as terriers or as whatever the mix is but never as shit bulls.
 
So it can't do anything at all without cloud connectivity? Then what's inside it worth $800? If it's basically just an Alexa inside a plastic shell that looks like a demon from Chinese folklore that sells children to Mongols, what could possibly make it so valuable?

Or, more likely, does it just have some Pajeetcore code in it that makes it refuse to work without regular subscription checks and they forgot to code in an EOL function that lets it work without phoning home?
Nobody knows how to fucking code anything without it being perpetually online anymore. It’s batshit insane how many damn things have to have an Internet connection because developers can’t be arsed to learn how to code anything on device.
 
Nobody knows how to fucking code anything without it being perpetually online anymore. It’s batshit insane how many damn things have to have an Internet connection because developers can’t be arsed to learn how to code anything on device.

Personally i think it's a lot more calculated in the name of normalization. And simple future avenues of increased profit for market masters and inf growth. There are also a few more... tinfoil hat type ideas theories as well. Especially when it comes to things like cars and smart homes etc. Remember that we already have cars that won't recharge/run without an internet connection, with kill switches etc. Or the pilot project a few years ago out west in the US, testing connected thermostats, couldn't help themselves by overriding people's setting and then locking the minimum temp setting into the mid 80s on hot high power use days. Now imagine the possibilities of a full smart home. Eco fascists shutting off lights at certain times, cutting off heat etc. And all without the need for direct and specific government action. In the same way social media played along with censorship demands from both official and unofficial sources. Or what CC and banks do.
 
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Good ending: they are open sourcing it
bad news: still gotta be remotely updated for it to be opened source


Earlier this month, startup Embodied announced that it is going out of business and taking its Moxie robot with it. The $800 robots, aimed at providing emotional support for kids ages 5 to 10, would soon be bricked, the company said, because they can’t perform their core features without the cloud. Following customer backlash, Embodied is trying to create a way for the robots to live an open sourced second life.
Embodied CEO Paolo Pirjanian shared a document via a LinkedIn blog post today saying that people who used to be part of Embodied’s technical team are developing a “potential” and open source way to keep Moxies running. The document reads:
This initiative involves developing a local server application (‘OpenMoxie’) that you can run on your own computer. Once available, this community-driven option will enable you (or technically inclined individuals) to maintain Moxie’s basic functionality, develop new features, and modify her capabilities to better suit your needs—without reliance on Embodied’s cloud servers.
The notice says that after releasing OpenMoxie, Embodied plans to release “all necessary code and documentation” for developers and users.
Pirjanian said that an over-the-air (OTA) update is now available for download that will allow previously purchased Moxies to support OpenMoxie. The executive noted that Embodied is still “seeking long-term answers” but claimed that the update is a “vital first step” to “keep the door open” for the robot's continued functionality.
At this time, OpenMoxie isn’t available and doesn’t have a release date. Embodied’s wording also seems careful to leave an opening for OpenMoxie to not actually release; although, the company seems optimistic.

However, there’s also a risk of users failing to update their robots in time and properly. Embodied noted that it won’t be able to support users who have trouble with the update or with OpenMoxie post-release. Updating the robot includes connecting to Wi-Fi and leaving it on for at least an hour.

“It is extremely important that you update your Moxie with this OTA as soon as possible because once the cloud servers stop working you will not be able to update your robot,” the document reads. Embodied hasn't said when exactly its cloud servers still stop working.

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Yeah look at your local pound's online inventory and it's probably 50%+ shit bull or shit bull mix, which will be labeled as terriers or as whatever the mix is but never as shit bulls.
When I moved down here I thought about adopting a dog but every fucking humane society from here to Dade is full of "Lab mixes" aka inbred shitbulls. If I wanted to get unexpectedly eaten by a gator I'd go for a night swim over in Lake Okeechobee.
 
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