Third Places and Where to Find Them - Gen Z and the Infinity Chamber

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ChatGPT defines the "third place" as the following:

The term “Third Place” was popularized by Ray Oldenburg and has a specific meaning in sociology:

Third Place (noun):
A social environment separate from the two usual social settings of home (“first place”) and work (“second place”), where people gather to relax, interact, and build community.
Key characteristics often included in definitions:
  • Neutral ground (anyone can come and go freely)
  • Inclusive and accessible
  • Conversation is a main activity
  • Regulars help create a welcoming atmosphere
  • Informal, low-pressure setting
Examples: cafés, parks, pubs, community centers, libraries.
In short, a “third place” is where people connect socially outside of home and work.

Gen X, Gen Y, and Gen Z have been on the receiving end of its death. Looking back I remember my childhood being curiously absent of other children. When not at school I rarely ever saw anyone my age playing in the street. Playdates had to be arranged weeks in advance, none of my friends ever just "stopped in" at my house nor did I stop in at theirs, nor did I hear about any such behaviors going on with my peers.

Children were in the house when not in school, the natural instinct of spontaneity and exploration was forced out of them from their first steps.

I visit my old neighborhood sometimes. I never see children playing, even on the weekends in summertime. In fact I never see anyone doing anything but errands, work, or lounging in their home. This seems like a minor issue, but remember the loneliness crisis young people are going through today.

This problem has wide reaching implications. Basically every western country is below replacement fertility. Why? No third places. I'm past the "WTF" stage, here's my point: the third place is dead in America, and for a lot of other Western countries too. Like it or not, you're going to see end times situations if we don't change this fast. Fertility isn't going up and it's everyone's problem sooner or later.

I often ask myself where to go to hang out or meet new friends. I find most places to be infested with the elderly. Drinking, golfing, shooting, basically anything public where old people could go, they are the supermajority. That's great for listening to Uncle Joe's war stories, but it's a recipe for national suicide. They are old, they are bitter, and they do not want to be spoken to. This creates a feedback loop where 2-3 childhood friends and your immediate family are the only people you can talk to.

What steps have you taken to minimize this in your life? If this were written 10-15 years ago I'd come across as some NEET incel, but the more I look into the loneliness epidemic the more I realize it's basically everyone from every walk of life affected by this.

Sometimes I feel like I'm in that movie the Infinity Chamber. You think you can leave, but there's no real escape. The only difference is instead of robots you're dealing with old people. You can go to the bar and "talk with people" but eventually you'll blink and realize it's another boomer. And then you black out from the alcohol and wake up in your bed again, having spent the night exclusively talking with people at minimum 10-15 years older than you.

Though not its whole purpose, I encourage viewers to use this thread as a way to fight this fresh hell in the only way we can: tell us, what do you do after work?

This is the most important issue facing America, and it is not in political discourse at all.
If we do not solve this problem, we will be the last generation.
 
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A social environment separate from the two usual social settings of home (“first place”) and work (“second place”), where people gather to relax, interact, and build community.
Is this some zoomer newspeak? I've never seen anyone use "first place" and "second place" when referring to their homes and workplaces
 
Is this some zoomer newspeak? I've never seen anyone use "first place" and "second place" when referring to their homes and workplaces
The term "third place" itself was first established in the book The Great Good Place (1989), written by the sociologist Ray Oldenburg.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> Locales of this type have been identified throughout human history.
 
Just go outside brother. That would be a good first step.
Have you ever gone on 10 hour hikes across your zip code and never seen a human being during that time?

I do that every weekend, because none of my coworkers want to do anything on a Friday night.

I don't just touch grass, I get more hours of walking in a weekend than you probably get in a year.

If anything the problem is I'm the only one who actually bothers to go outside.
 
Have you ever gone on 10 hour hikes across your zip code and never seen a human being during that time?
My postal code area isn't really large enough for a 10 hour hike, but I was on a few multi-day hikes. Even in the forest you see people, let alone in the city. I don't see a point in reading some chatgpu vomit you posted. From hearing "third place" in the past, it just sounds like a coffee shop or something, do people not visit coffee shops anymore? I was in the library yesterday and I almost couldn't find a place to sit, I go to a tea shop sometimes and there are people all the time. Your chatgpu is lying to you.
 
My postal code area isn't really large enough for a 10 hour hike, but I was on a few multi-day hikes. Even in the forest you see people, let alone in the city. I don't see a point in reading some chatgpu vomit you posted. From hearing "third place" in the past, it just sounds like a coffee shop or something, do people not visit coffee shops anymore? I was in the library yesterday and I almost couldn't find a place to sit, I go to a tea shop sometimes and there are people all the time. Your chatgpu is lying to you.
Retard actively chose not to read the content of my post or other posts in the thread. I used ChatGPT to present a dictionary definition.

Yes, people do not visit coffee shops anymore. I rarely see anyone there who is not elderly, Indian, or both.

I am describing my own personal experiences which mesh with current social trends and statistics.
 
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Real shit. I think part of the problem is that social gathering trends of the past decade and a half have been so catered to affluent urbanites that there’s jack shit for people in small towns to do. Think craft beer, axe throwing, that virtual golf shit.
100% agree. Is it everything? No, but that's a big part of it.

Nobody can afford to go drinking. Why? Beers are $15 unless you're in a bad hood.

They've successfully gentrified socializing and it's an existential threat to civilization.
 
The internet has effectively become the third place since it's cheaper and more convenient than going out. Like the other poster said, you really need to be affluent to truly go out and enjoy yourself or even to fully unplug and "touch grass" depending on where you live, as more and more the real world requires an app or internet connection for every little thing.

Here's a funny summary of it all from the old salo boards.
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Dog shows, especially for rarer/more endangered breeds, are a really underrated 'third space'. In the past year I've been to many events featuring various endangered breeds and each experience has been fantastic.
  • Free to enter (aside from parking fees, but that depends on the location), even if you don't have a dog
  • Friendly, welcoming people happy to converse with you about their dogs or whatever else comes up in conversation
  • People involved with owning/preserving endangered breeds appreciate newcomers wanting to learn about their breed
  • Members of a breed club develop a whole new group of associates/acquaintances/friends due to how tight-knit and friendly the clubs are. I've had people say to me they've made lifelong friends through their breed club
  • You can meet and pet many never-before-encountered breeds of dog. You can't do that on the internet
 
While I can’t deny that there is a decline in public activities, the truth is that making friends as an adult is just notoriously hard in general because once you get out of school, your peers start having other life obligations that take priority. It’s one thing when you’re in your early 20’s and younger and are spending most of your time in an environment where everyone’s the same age as you and has plenty of free time to just hang out and do whatever, but once you get thrust out into the adult world, now you’re basically now in a pool of everyone from 25-65 and most of them have other stuff to do. Pretty much anyone who’s gotten into playing TTRPGs in their teen and college years, for example, soon learns how much of a pain in the ass it is to play as an adult.

You mention that most social spaces are “infested” with the elderly... well that’s because frankly, elderly people have a lot more free time in comparison to young and middle-aged adults. They’ve raised their families, they’re retired, and now they get to spend significant portions of time on leisure activities again like shooting and golf.

Something I’ve noticed is that being concerned about “the loneliness epidemic” seems to be far more common among people who spend a lot of time online. Make of that what you will.
 
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