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the rat dijo:
And hello from Haswell!
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Yeah I got my standards all screwed up. I was able to browse the web on a Haswell, but it struggled in some games, and after upping to an Alder Lake I realized how much the Haswell was limiting even the web browsing so I consider those older CPU's a "bare minimum", as in the bare minimum for an acceptable experience. Yes, a Haswell would be capable of browsing the web, but it would be somewhat sluggish in loading up the browser, as well as on some heavier websites. So the T480 is the "bare minimum" for a good experience. Not a fantastic CPU but snappy enough for the modern web.

My T420 however, that is a massive hunk of shit. The DVD drive keeps opening up on it's own, the fan starts rattling where tapping the thing makes it shut up for a second, even when it ran Arch it was annoying to use and so on. It's my experiment machine now for whenever I feel like fucking around with Linux, but for actual use I have a L14 Gen 5 and it's really good, besides Win11 being a tad bit annoying, but just a tad. I still don't know how much of it is on Win11 and how much of it is on it being a mobile machine doing mobile machine things.
 
My e495 from 2020 is still chugging along just fine. Upgraded the RAM and added a 1TB Sata sad a few years ago. The screen may be shit but I got a good buy on that one. It’ll probably be my last Windows laptop assuming Microsoft doesn’t course correct.
 
Which is the latest generation with charging ports on daughter board?
 
Miller dijo:
Great, there's a storm coming in my region and I wanted to charge my X230 just in case and of course the battery is dead.
I shouldn't have trusted those eBay chinks.
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That's what you get for buying into the /g/ meme StinkPad category bracket. Those old user removable batteries no longer make sense. One, 18650 cells are bulky and heavy for a laptop. Two, you're not carrying spares with you anyways. Three, you'd need to pull out the brick power adapter and keep it juiced to do a hotswap without rebooting. Four, all of the apparent benefits get defeated by the outdated powe hungry Intel CPU's of that era.

Compare that to a modern StinkPad where the battery is screwed in, but it can be easily replaced with just a screwdriver in hand, and in the most recent models it's a CRU instead of an FRU which makes the availability of replacement parts much better for the home consumer. If you're on the go, just hook up a powerbank and you've got extra juice. Since it's USB-C, with the right powerbank, cables and charger you can have a power set that'll work both with your smartphone and your laptop. On top of that, modern mobile Intel/AMD chips have much better power efficiency giving you more work hours than a /g/ StinkPad would. All those mega power cells and riced Arch (btw) setups you see faggots do on X220's (the "last" "best" StinkPads)? That's all cope, the main problem is in those mid 2010's Intel chips sucking power like crazy and running like shit despite of it. Today these chips chug way less power and are a magnitude more powerful.
 
Miller dijo:
Great, there's a storm coming in my region and I wanted to charge my X230 just in case and of course the battery is dead.
I shouldn't have trusted those eBay chinks.
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Slav Power dijo:
That's what you get for buying into the /g/ meme StinkPad category bracket. Those old user removable batteries no longer make sense. One, 18650 cells are bulky and heavy for a laptop. Two, you're not carrying spares with you anyways. Three, you'd need to pull out the brick power adapter and keep it juiced to do a hotswap without rebooting. Four, all of the apparent benefits get defeated by the outdated powe hungry Intel CPU's of that era.

Compare that to a modern StinkPad where the battery is screwed in, but it can be easily replaced with just a screwdriver in hand, and in the most recent models it's a CRU instead of an FRU which makes the availability of replacement parts much better for the home consumer. If you're on the go, just hook up a powerbank and you've got extra juice. Since it's USB-C, with the right powerbank, cables and charger you can have a power set that'll work both with your smartphone and your laptop. On top of that, modern mobile Intel/AMD chips have much better power efficiency giving you more work hours than a /g/ StinkPad would. All those mega power cells and riced Arch (btw) setups you see faggots do on X220's (the "last" "best" StinkPads)? That's all cope, the main problem is in those mid 2010's Intel chips sucking power like crazy and running like shit despite of it. Today these chips chug way less power and are a magnitude more powerful.
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I bought a t430 because of the fact that the cpu and battery were replaceable and not soldered on, in retrospect I should've spent the extra $50 bucks for a t480 (or an equivalent x-series thinkpad). both the oem battery and replacement battery are kinda shit, and I've never replaced the cpu and I don't think it's worth the effort when the intel hd graphics will still hold me back. Thankfully, I only have to put up with the terrible performance for a couple weeks out of a year at most (I sometimes travel out of state to visit family).
 
Lone Wandering Courier dijo:
and I've never replaced the cpu and I don't think it's worth the effort when the intel hd graphics will still hold me back
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What will hold you back is the fact that you'll be limited to a small selection of Haswell era chips, where you'd really be better off getting a soldered chip from modern Intel/AMD designs. That's the issue with the /g/ meme, just because it's replaceable doesn't mean it's better, and if we're talking Intel CPU, that shit never had any good longevity, especially when you need to go back this far.

Modern T-series and L-series models have SODIMM DDR5 RAM, but get a soldered WLAN card, but then the two reasons you'd want to change it is if a) it broke or b) you wanted newer WiFi. a) is highly unlikely to happen and is b) all that important with WiFi 6E? Also modern X-series are all soldered, but those don't make much sense when you have 14-inch T-series and L-series. That's still very compact, and since they're modern designs, they're thinner and lighter than an X230. And all it takes to open them up is unscrew some captive screws, pop the bottom cover and the whole motherboard is exposed.

Basically, don't buy into the /g/ meme of "the last true ThinkPads" and get yourself something decently modern. I bought into it and got a T420, and compared to my L14 Gen 5 it's just a heap of junk I've delegated to being an experiment machine. The L14 is lighter, more performant, has a longer battery life, modern I/O, USB-C charging, even has the infrared camera for facial recognition, and I've mounted a WWAN modem in it. It's so liberating to have a small light laptop that you just pop open anywhere, you still have plenty of juice to go with, and you're instantly online, ready to do whatever that it is that you need to do. The "last true ThinkPads" are fun as a tinker toy, but definitely not suited for daily drivers.
 
Is anyone else a fan of the thinkpad tablets?
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I accidently bought x220i instead of x220, it is a budget version but how inferior is it to x220 model? Should I buy x220, upgrade it or would upgrading x220i be enough?
 
Kosher Dill dijo:
Just try installing your stuff on it and see how it runs.
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What magical deluded planet do you live on?

They're still perfectly usable systems in 2026 and quite comfy if that especially if you do not use intend to use Windows in anyway. I daily drive my W520, and X220 without a hitch under Arch and Void. The W520 despite it's age is still a perfectly good Goliath to drag around. The usability of the express slots, actual ports, express drive bay and the ability to max the RAM out to 32GB's gives me zero issues if not making it more useful in comparison to the disposable turds we have today and let alone that I can still use it to virtualize machines without a hitch, do network analysis, perform network audits, program, compiling and have plenty going on in the background without a hitch. Then there's also the battery life. What can I say? 5.5 hours seems pretty reasonable to me when I'm doing work in comparison to most laptops I'd dare say, then let alone the ability to just carry two batteries around with me which automatically gives me far more additional battery life.

The X220 as well in contrast is also a perfectly usable system. It's an ultrabook by all means and that's what I treat it as. I'll iterate again that much like the W520 the ports and the modifiability in addition to the small size, the comfortable keyboard all make it quite a perfectly usable system. I run Void on my X220 without issue, and having had the RAM maxed out to 16GB's goes a long, long way in helping it continue to be a perfectly usable system in this day and age. I primarily do a lot of light work on it such as report writing, auditing, programming, web browsing, cosy shitposting, torrenting and just general fucking around and I have not a single issue with it in anyway.


If you value longevity, versatility, and reliability then they're still perfectly usable systems assuming you're not some le epik consoomerist gamyer who demands the latest slop. Moore's law after all is slowing down.
 
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