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That's the Eldridge
 
which means this is inside the planet of Xenogears, which if we are to believe the ending of Xenoblade 3, happened after the world fused.

this will likely be how the cast gets to the "surface" of the planet, through the ship, but logistically to be clear, there's no way the ship would be long enough, it would be many many more miles lol.
 
which means this is inside the planet of Xenogears, which if we are to believe the ending of Xenoblade 3, happened after the world fused.

this will likely be how the cast gets to the "surface" of the planet, through the ship, but logistically to be clear, there's no way the ship would be long enough, it would be many many more miles lol.
A Philadelphia class ship existing as the tower of Babel is making me think that this game is following the descendants of colonists sent out by Exodus/ECP from the Radio at the end of FR rather than a refused Earth from the end of the trilogy. I feel like the refused Earth ending for 3, X and Saga is more framing the next game thematically rather than literally. My grand theory that will most certainly be wrong is that this game will be about descendants of the colonists sent from Earth in 20XX that escaped the Zohar experiment Klaus unleashed and they have been in this hollow planet(?) for so long that their culture has turned the colony maintenance or something into a religious ritual with the Anima stuff, like they have forgotten their past.

The 6 suns is specific since the Ares has 6 cores that are essentially Zohar Emulators, or Relics of Anima, and the Ouroboros have the same cores, so it seems to be what this next series will be about. I guarantee those aren't suns and are very likely some form of these cores, likely where the Anima power comes from. And according to Xenosaga, during the times of Lost Jerusalem people used the power of Anima freely, but in doing so accelerated the destruction of the lower domain via the universal failsafe, X has since called the Ghosts a universal fail safe of a sort so there is actually a high chance that they might show up and act like the Gnosis. Xenogears Episode 2 is also called Genesis in Perfect Works.

My X fan cope theory is that the colonists from Earth in the Klaus universe eventually end up becoming Samaarians in the X universe when they jump, likely running from the Ghosts. The only characters we see in the trailer are Human or Human with pointed elf ears, like how Void was depicted with a body.
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And the Samaar descendants we have seen are very human and tend to have pointed elven ears
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Old concepts from X seem to support this theory, up in the air if its actually still or ever was canon though.

There is also the cat thing, which given my complete cope theory, would then be maybe some kind of Wrothian progenitor species. Their arms manufacturer IS called Six Stars... Its called The Pleiades in Japanese, which is a cluster that has only 6 or 7 stars visible to the naked eye.

The holes in my theories is that there is someone seen doing an Offseer sort of ritual with motes, the weapon Anima crystal things look a lot like core crystals, which could fit this hypothetical timeline since Klaus says core crystals already existed before his experiment and were used to replace brain tissue.

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The logo has broken shards like the rift between worlds as depicted in X.

In terms of gameplay the characters can be seen holding two weapons, and even firearms, so there is a chance it plays like X in some way.
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That's my theory, anyone else can share theirs, I'd love to see some further in depth discussion since there isn't really anywhere online to talk about this stuff in a greater context that isn't full of tourists.
 
Xenogears Episode 2 is also called Genesis in Perfect Works.
That is the interesting part, which contrasts (though not necessarily contradicts) this earlier:
So essentially yeah the games carry on the themes and concepts of Gears, but they are further refined and changed as they go, rather than being stuck in the past forever doing perfect works, a major theme of Xenoblade 3, perhaps a reflection upon the series as a whole, further cemented by the DLC standalone story expansion for 3 being a reflection upon the series towards the end with a Vector Industries radio that drops memberberries towards the entire series as a whole, something the greater community (something that I do my best to avoid entirely) spent far too long arguing about game canonicity rather than seeing it as the self reflection on 25 years of games.
Pushing things, from what I see, the general gist of an implementation of Perfect Works would currently be this:
  1. Xenosaga series
  2. Xenoblade Genesis
  3. ???
  4. ???
  5. Xenogears
  6. Xenoblade 3: Future Redeemed???
The rest exist outside of thi scope.

Either way, that is going off coincidences at best. A this point, I would just say that Xenoblade Genes is a prequel to the Xenoblade Serie set after Torna but no more.
 
Too early to say, so far all the characters have their school uniform which hopefully doesn't stick (either due to changing faction allegiance or class system). But having toned down male oriented fanservice is par the course for modern Nintendo
 
Learn to ignore X grifters. Xenoblade 2 is the series outlier in terms of style. If anything, I’m not a fan of the seasonal anime look of Genesis, but I like the rendering technique used for the game otherwise. I’m excited to see how far they take the world concept in gameplay terms but I wish it wasn’t couched in a school setting.
 
Would rather have this being a new ip, because the xenoblade 1/3 fans would be wary for the more Xeno2 animu shit, Xeno 2 grifters would yell that this would be more tame and "woke" , and fantasy rpg fans will feel that enter in a 5 games franchise(with references from other 4 games) would be hard.
Can't say I like this but I know that I play this but unlike the Ocarina, it doesn't look bad.
 
I would have preferred they got Kunihiko Tanaka back, but as the other guy said, 2 is the outlier since that was made as a parody/love letter to Shonen anime. I would assume this is just like 3 and the characters will get their 'real' outfit designs later and the trailer is just showing the very start of the game.
 
Im looking forward to xenoblade 2 switch 2 the second two edition.
I played though that game twice and all I remember was that it had a gatcha system that you dont pay real money for.
 
Idk genesis trailer wasn't doing it for me. I'm getting flashbacks of three houses with the academy setting. It just feels playing too safe to me and doesn't give me the spark of uniqueness the other xeno games had.

Of course too soon to tell, but it's world and plot right now seem rather generic and not out worldly as some of the games gave me.

Personally I was hoping for a xenoblade chronicles x 2 or something close to xenoblade chronicles 2 cause i really loved that games world and gameplay, and feel like there's so much potential there for another game besides xenoblade chronicles 3.
 
"Xenoblade Genesis takes place on Anshar, a world lit by six suns. There are multiple nations on the world, but they are in ceaseless conflict.

The world is made from something known as Anima, which can be manipulated by those known as Vesselai. These Vesselai are trained at an academy known as Leukos. A girl named Eleanor enrolls and receives a crystone, a stone that amplifies the Vesselai's power.

During the game, she will meet many people and see their fates play out."

Anshar is a Mesopotamian primordial king of the gods, wikipedia specifically says this
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Aionios described the setting of 3, so they are doing the same again with this. It's interesting that its Mesopotamian, they haven't gone this far back before.
 
What's the offical timeline chart for xeno looking like right now? Cause I remember this IP having a huge chart that goes into alternate timelines and games that go along parallel.

Would genesis be even before the original xeno games or just before chronicles?
 
What's the offical timeline chart for xeno looking like right now? Cause I remember this IP having a huge chart that goes into alternate timelines and games that go along parallel.

Would genesis be even before the original xeno games or just before chronicles?
Only games of the same subseries are actually connected, connections between subseries (saga to blade for example) are just re-used concepts or names rather than an actual single universe. There is a single parallel timeline split that leads into blade 1 and blade 2, then they recombine in 3. This game, given the Eldridge wreck in the trailer, would either be after all 3 blade games, or another split from the blade inception point because of the radio from future redeemed. X is extremely loose but they have confirmed a 'multiverse' that all the blade games exist in. If it's before anything it would be a prequel to X and a sequel to the blade games, but the actual connections we don't know yet.
 
Where is my Xenosaga remaster!? Fuck man. How tied is Xenosaga to the xenoblade lore?(ive never played xenoblade, but im aware of the series)
Entirely under the purview of Bandai and they have already deemed it not financially worth it. Xenoblade pulls the same concepts and technology from Xenosaga, Zohar, Imaginary number and real number domains (seems to be sort of simplified so far in comparison to saga), and the backstory lore about Earth and its dissapearance is very close to but still different from Saga. Unlike Xenosaga, it takes its time to fully explain each concept over time instead of throwing a bunch of things at you all at once with no explanation.

The similar background lore stuff hasn't actually been properly explained because its not directly relevant to the blade games, most of it was from the instruction book that came with a japanese model kit.
 
Would genesis be even before the original xeno games or just before chronicles?
I have been wondering this myself, and I’m inclined to believe that it happens after Blade and Saga. I believe this is the case because the earth “lost Jerusalem” was reunified at the end of future redeemed. Humanity was headed back towards Lost Jerusalem at the end of Saga. If it’s a hollow world as it appears to be, then Genesis could potentially be taking place inside the reformed Earth.

However, it could still be the inside of the planet from Xenogears, as this would still align with the timeline of events since the gears planet was crashed upon by a ship moving between Abraxas and Earth, which means Lost Jerusalem was successfully found after Saga and reformed after Blade. If it takes place inside the gears planet, this would explain a few things. First, it would explain Dominia and the land of Elru that was destroyed by Id. Second, it would explain how and why massive cities existed under the surface of the planet (the Zeboiim Culture). These same underground nations were lobbing nukes at each other and shit too, so the hollow planet theory makes even more sense in this case.

Either way, I’m not too keen on the whole “school girl turned badass” dead horse trope being beaten repeatedly with a stick once more. It’ll be interesting to see where the story goes, but it’ll suck if it’s full of the kind of gameplay that makes you a raging homosexual until you stop playing it. I reckon Genesis is either gonna keep the story going, or it’ll end it in one fell swoop.
 
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