The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Overly Serious dijo:
I have the latest Windows update and in the good news, the Start menu and apps do actually start up noticeably more quickly. I am as surprised as anybody else.

On the downside, the idiotic and crappy way search is handled in Windows explorer remains unchanged. Example: You search by name in a directory structure and some of the results are directories matching that name. Great - you click on one of those to open in a new tab in Explorer. What do you get in that new tab? The normal directory path? No. You get "Search Results". Or double click to enter that directory and the path above is still deriving from "Search results".

There is no clean way to get directly from a folder you have found via Search to a normal path for that folder. You have to right click on it, select "Copy as Path", go to either the current address bar in Explorer or one in a new tab, paste the result in, delete the quote marks from either end, then hit return. Now you have a normal file path that you can go up and down from, etc.

Idiocy.
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If you want better windows search, give power toys a shot. I got it for the macOS style spotlight launcher, but I think it has a more tunable search in it.

 
Orcinus Orca dijo:
  • Weird-ass file system for Linux. USBs are OBVIOUSLY a separate disk, not even part of the operating system!
  • Hypertechnical. Ohh, would you like the GAYNIGGERBALLS file manager or the HYPERTROPHIC BANANADICKSHIT DE (HBDDE)?
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1. While Windows file system is based around the idea that you would have floppy drives (Hence why your boot drive is the C: drive because it’s assumed you wail have up to two floppy drives) Linux generally considers each drive to be a directory within the root drive as in the past when file usage got bigger then the available drives available it became necessary to move system directories like /usr or /home to a second drive, while still having the files in the same place in the directory. Nowadays it means that basically any directory can be made into a drive. You can use the auto mounts that put it in a long ass gibberish location or you could change it so drives boot in a location of your choosing, such as /data or /home/(your username)/SteamLibrary

2. I still don’t really understand what you’re referring to. Cinnamon is Cinnamon and the file manager uses a rather obvious file manager logo. Are you upset that Linux didn’t call their apps the exact same names that Windows calls its apps?
 
Betonhaus dijo:
1. While Windows file system is based around the idea that you would have floppy drives (Hence why your boot drive is the C: drive because it’s assumed you wail have up to two floppy drives) Linux generally considers each drive to be a directory within the root drive as in the past when file usage got bigger then the available drives available it became necessary to move system directories like /usr or /home to a second drive, while still having the files in the same place in the directory. Nowadays it means that basically any directory can be made into a drive. You can use the auto mounts that put it in a long ass gibberish location or you could change it so drives boot in a location of your choosing, such as /data or /home/(your username)/SteamLibrary

2. I still don’t really understand what you’re referring to. Cinnamon is Cinnamon and the file manager uses a rather obvious file manager logo. Are you upset that Linux didn’t call their apps the exact same names that Windows calls its apps?
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Thank you for informing me
 
Orcinus Orca dijo:
Weird-ass file system for Linux. USBs are OBVIOUSLY a separate disk, not even part of the operating system!
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In Linux/Unix everything is a file. So the disk you plugged in will be a file under in the device tree, which is under /dev

If you do it lsblk in a terminal, you will see all the storage and the device.
The USB stick is under /dev/sdX normally. While the mount point is under mnt or media.

e.g. This is the Arch Linux install USB media I plugged in. The device is /dev/sda and the 1st partition is /dev/sda1
and it is mounted under /run/media.
Bash: 
[user@hostname ~]$ lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda      8:0    1  14.5G  0 disk
└─sda1   8:1    1  14.5G  0 part /run/media/user/ARCH_YYYYMM

<all my other disks>

It's worth just reading about the Unix filesystem layout, as it will help you understand where stuff lives in the OS.

e.g., temporarily mounted media such as USB sticks are under media

EDIT: @Betonhaus did a better high-level explanation of what's going on.
 
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Baraka Obama dijo:
On Linux? I am advised to use `dd` or to hope K3B wants to work.
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K3B uses cdrtools behind the scenes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools which provides the cdrecord executable. I prefer cdrecord to anything I've used on Windows, but I'm a Gentoo-using zealot, so obviously YMMV.

If a GUI was a requirement, yeah, you don't really have any decent choice but Windows.
 
analrapist dijo:
K3B uses cdrtools behind the scenes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools which provides the cdrecord executable. I prefer cdrecord to anything I've used on Windows, but I'm a Gentoo-using zealot, so obviously YMMV.

If a GUI was a requirement, yeah, you don't really have any decent choice but Windows.
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imgburn makes me not have to think at all, just werks. I have occasionally had to bust out a vintage copy of Alcohol 120% for ancient piracy reasons but man I don't want to use a CLI unless I'm scripting something which isn't going to happen for anything I need to physically interact with.
 
Baraka Obama dijo:
imgburn makes me not have to think at all, just werks. I have occasionally had to bust out a vintage copy of Alcohol 120% for ancient piracy reasons but man I don't want to use a CLI unless I'm scripting something which isn't going to happen for anything I need to physically interact with.
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You didn't even try to find an alternative. BalenaEtcher and SUSE ImageWriter (in everyone's repos) are both common ways people burn images on Linux and just work. But if you're only willing to use software you're familiar with that works on Windows then yeah, stick to Windows.
 
Aidan dijo:
You didn't even try to find an alternative. BalenaEtcher and SUSE ImageWriter (in everyone's repos) are both common ways people burn images on Linux and just work. But if you're only willing to use software you're familiar with that works on Windows then yeah, stick to Windows.
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Since when does baloney etcher work for burning cd and dvd discs?
 
Baraka Obama dijo:
Since when does baloney etcher work for burning cd and dvd discs?
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Brasero. I'm not trying to convince you to give it another shot, I think basic software like imgburn being an example of a "killer app" is unfortunately common to the point of absurdity. So often people get bothered by not-Windows for not having 1:1 software that they learned years ago on Windows and accrue a boomer mentality that any other software doing the same thing needs to look and feel the exact same. That's never been the case.

This is the reason Bill Gates was so keen on shoving Windows everywhere, people train themselves on it and end up captured for life.
 
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Aidan dijo:
You didn't even try to find an alternative. BalenaEtcher and SUSE ImageWriter (in everyone's repos) are both common ways people burn images on Linux and just work. But if you're only willing to use software you're familiar with that works on Windows then yeah, stick to Windows.
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Not sure if aware, but Balena has built in tracking, telemetry, and ticking disable is a pseudo setting.

 
Orcinus Orca dijo:
Hypertechnical. Ohh, would you like the GAYNIGGERBALLS file manager or the HYPERTROPHIC BANANADICKSHIT DE (HBDDE)?
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That's a non-issue. Each desktop environment comes with its own file manager by default. If you really want a particular file manager, you can install the package and use it.
 
Baraka Obama dijo:
imgburn makes me not have to think at all, just werks. I have occasionally had to bust out a vintage copy of Alcohol 120% for ancient piracy reasons but man I don't want to use a CLI unless I'm scripting something which isn't going to happen for anything I need to physically interact with.
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I generally don't trust anything other than the CLI these days. That goes for any OS.
I Do Not Care dijo:
Not sure if aware, but Balena has built in tracking, telemetry, and ticking disable is a pseudo setting.

https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/2977 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/is-balena-etcher-safe/75966 https://forum.zorin.com/t/suggestion-avoid-recommending-balena-etcher/46037 https://old.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1itznhz/psa_balenaetcher_is_sharing_image_name_and_usb/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28158519
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People should just learn how dd and lsblk works. You don't have to install any extra crap then.
 
Aidan dijo:
Brasero. I'm not trying to convince you to give it another shot, I think basic software like imgburn being an example of a "killer app" is unfortunately common to the point of absurdity. So often people get bothered by not-Windows for not having 1:1 software that they learned years ago on Windows and accrue a boomer mentality that any other software doing the same thing needs to look and feel the exact same. That's never been the case.

This is the reason Bill Gates was so keen on shoving Windows everywhere, people train themselves on it and end up captured for life.
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But baloney etcher has no support for burning optical discs. It just writes images to other kinds of disks like USB sticks (but please PLEASE just go use dd for that instead like others said). Writing to optical discs requires very specific support from software which is usually only found in programs dedicated to that purpose like the mentioned ImgBurn, or (on the linux/unix side) cdrdao & cdrecord. (and whatever the current day troony forks of those are called)

That said who even still burns optical discs in 2026 lol. Do you guys have old game consoles with no ODE?
 
Retard Marine dijo:
That said who even still burns optical discs in 2026 lol. Do you guys have old game consoles with no ODE?
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Yeah. I prefer it for PS2 games especially to dealing with OPL. And I burn games for Saturn, Dreamcast, PCE, Sega CD, and PS1 (sometimes when I don't want to use my PSPgo setup) as well.

And I use them for vintage PCs occasionally, I installed Win98 from a CD recently when my usual disk boostrap & copy the setup folder failed me.
 
seri0us dijo:
I use high capacity blu rays as part of the "two types of media" rule in the 3-2-1 backup strategy
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I looked into BD-R for backups myself a while ago but the per-TB cost wasn't great and lots of people said BD-R blank quality is garbage (maybe M-DISC is better but that will cost even more). If you don't have that much data to back up I guess it can still work out. It sure feels like optical drive tech as a whole is on life support now, though.
 
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