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Hank and Dean can't be clones, Ben clearly stated they were made via a night of drunken sex, like most people, so those theories are automatically disproven.
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
Did you pay attention to what was being said in that particular scene? Or watch the Season 1 finale and Season 2 premier for that matter?
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
I *think* he's saying Hank and Dean can't be clones of Brock and Rusty because Ben said that they were conceived naturally. (They were obviously cloned after that.)
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- 29 de Dic, 2015
I was simply saying that there was the conspiracy theory before even season 2 started that the boys were clones of Brock and Rusty, but yeah, that was disproved early.
Now, I hope I'm wrong with this theory. I hope the PP Belt is really the Peril Partnership, but I'm betting it's a ruse and it's just Phinneas Phage's henchman.
Now, I hope I'm wrong with this theory. I hope the PP Belt is really the Peril Partnership, but I'm betting it's a ruse and it's just Phinneas Phage's henchman.
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
Since when was this a conspiracy or a theory? I thought this was a joke made in one of the episode commentaries by Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick (somewhere in the first season, before the finale episode), though I could be wrong. I know people were floating shit based on the final line of the episode but still...
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
Seriously though, didn't the most recent episode at least *imply* that Jonas cloned Rusty? And yeah I realize that doesn't *necessarily* jive with how Jonas Jr. came to be... But I honestly can't see any other way to read it.
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
I didn't even catch that at first until I read back through comments on here after watching it and thought back to what happened in the episode. I thought it was the HELPeR getting confused and assuming Dean was Rusty Venture based on how Dean treated him vs what the HELPeR probably knows/was told by Ben, and completely forgot the clone line.
It implies that's the case but given the nature of this show, the jury is out until they decide to revisit it again, and even then we can't be sure because either they'll change it up if someone hits the nail on the head or they'll move straight forward with it while adding extra info drops and opening up new questions (a la Vendata/Blue Morpho).
Also, we never got the finer details on how Jonas Jr. came to be, all we have on that are the recurring nightmares from Season 1, and even that's been thrown into question, as you've mentioned.
Though Doc turning out to be a clone himself can mesh with what we've been presented so far, and could explain his rather selective memory, like with Hector and Swifty, or why he only has nightmares of Venturion instead of flat out remembering the robot his dad had active for about a year strangled him, when he remembers stuff like giant spiders, Jonas making him kill a home invader with a house key at age 10, or being made to test prototype Bizzy Bee rides. It's come up with Hank and Dean at least once, and even Doc and Jackson said (I think, somewhere) Rusty can't remember what was real events in his life and what was embellished for the Rusty Venture cartoon.
It implies that's the case but given the nature of this show, the jury is out until they decide to revisit it again, and even then we can't be sure because either they'll change it up if someone hits the nail on the head or they'll move straight forward with it while adding extra info drops and opening up new questions (a la Vendata/Blue Morpho).
Also, we never got the finer details on how Jonas Jr. came to be, all we have on that are the recurring nightmares from Season 1, and even that's been thrown into question, as you've mentioned.
Though Doc turning out to be a clone himself can mesh with what we've been presented so far, and could explain his rather selective memory, like with Hector and Swifty, or why he only has nightmares of Venturion instead of flat out remembering the robot his dad had active for about a year strangled him, when he remembers stuff like giant spiders, Jonas making him kill a home invader with a house key at age 10, or being made to test prototype Bizzy Bee rides. It's come up with Hank and Dean at least once, and even Doc and Jackson said (I think, somewhere) Rusty can't remember what was real events in his life and what was embellished for the Rusty Venture cartoon.
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
Until more information comes out (and it will) at the moment, I currently subscribe to the "Rusty was cloned" theory. It makes a LOT of previously stated information make a LOT more sense.
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- 20 de Ago, 2015
That's exactly what I meant.
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- 14 de Oct, 2017
In the Halloween episode Ben outright says
"Your grandpap and I perfected genetic engineering because God or whatever gave us a perfect map to do so. Jonas, me, and, yes, your dad saw it as nothing more than a fucking Band-Aid for a really big boo-boo". I understood that to mean Jonas had already known the cloning program was functioning as intended and was using it himself.
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- 20 de Feb, 2017
Pretty sure doc and Jackson mention that in the commentary for season 2 episode 1.
Edit to add: it might actually have been Spanikopita
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
This season just keeps getting better and better.
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- 20 de Ago, 2015
I normally hate St. Cloud, but he was so pathetically funny, except for that one line that was in the promo, that was gross. Also the whole episode was so great, I laughed my ass off at the end when they said what happened with St. Cloud, Billy, and Pete.
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- 29 de Dic, 2017
He did say that "almost" the entire crew was there. Maybe Manstrong was on duty at the time.
Though I wonder how he managed to not let slip to Rusty and the boys about what happened to Jonas.
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- 3 de Ene, 2017
It seems pretty clear that the Movie Night Massacre wasn't this hugely important event when they wrote the first season. But as things stand now, Rusty already knew about it -- he mentions "the report" when he demands Team Venture tell him how Jonas ended up as just a head. Presumably, he was just zoning out when Manstrong was telling the story, or maybe he just needed a bathroom that bad. As for the boys, well, they were even less with it then than they are now.
Or maybe it's just one of those things that will never fit perfectly, like all the timeline issues.
Or maybe it's just one of those things that will never fit perfectly, like all the timeline issues.
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
Sharkey's machine is rated R, Manstrong was a kid at the time so they probably didn't let him watch it.
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- 29 de Ago, 2018
That's what I got out of it. We still need more background about why he's so fucking weird about ladyparts, though.
Also, super late to the party, but holy hell Publick and Hammer did a great job addressing their super long production time with DEEP FUCKING callbacks to the series.
Reminds me that they love what they've made, even if it takes fucking forever to come out. Truly a labor of love.
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Maybe Manstrong is weird about women because he still has the emotional faculties of a child. That's why his relationship with Anna Baldavitch never evolved beyond a grade school romance.
And I really don't mind that new seasons take two years or more to be produced. I'd rather wait for something great and memorable than have them stick to a deadline and churn out mediocre junk every six months.
And I really don't mind that new seasons take two years or more to be produced. I'd rather wait for something great and memorable than have them stick to a deadline and churn out mediocre junk every six months.