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The Uneasy Truth About Traveling While Fat
Fatphobia, tiny plane seats, and size limits can deter large travelers, but it doesn't have to be this way.

By Cheyenne Davis
Published on 9/15/2023 at 7:58 AM
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In 2019, on a trip to the Bahamas with my mom and sister, my flight turned into an uncomfortable ordeal. My seat belt wasn’t long enough to fasten, and a fellow passenger's visceral reaction added to my discomfort. I repeatedly asked the flight attendant for a seat belt extender and was ignored until takeoff, leaving me feeling disregarded and disrespected.

And this wasn’t the first time I’ve dealt with this particular kind of travel stress. I went to Paris in 2014, and found the city cramped and unwelcoming. Narrow staircases, tiny chairs, and compact showers were just the beginning. Throughout my time there, I endured constant staring, rude comments, and fetishistic remarks about my body. But these types of roadblocks aren’t limited to Paris or my flight to Nassau—Society has an anti-fat bias, and you can encounter it anywhere.

Living in a world fueled by fatphobia creates unnecessary barriers, from limited clothing options to discrimination in medical care, employment, and relationships. According to the NIH, more than two in five adults live in a large body. And yet despite this fact, we continue to face daily challenges—including in travel, where inequities like the ones outlined below so often deny us access to the same life-changing experiences available to others.
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It starts with planning

Travel prep can be exhausting for anyone, but if you're in a large body, it's even more taxing. We tend to lay out our packing lists extra carefully because once you’re out there, lack of sizes and availability can make it very difficult to replace anything you’ve forgotten.

Megan Ixim, a social strategist and entrepreneur, emphasizes the importance of considering these limitations when getting ready for a trip. “I have to think about packing every item I could possibly need, because the chances of not being able to find something as simple as a swimsuit, raincoat, or boots in my size are high,” she says.
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Flying the not-so-friendly skies

Pre-travel prep doesn’t stop at the suitcase. It also includes quelling anxieties around other inevitable aspects of travel—namely, flying.

For inclusive content creator Leah V, pre-flight self care is crucial. “In order to deal with my flight anxiety, I try to hydrate, rest, stretch, and make sure I don’t eat anything that’s going to upset my stomach to avoid using airport and plane bathrooms,” she says, pointing to the tendency for onboard lavatories and multi-stall public restrooms to err on the smaller side.

Bathrooms aren’t the airplane components that fail to accommodate large bodies. Seats—and seat belts, as I learned on my flight to Nassau—can also be a problem. This issue can come into play as early as booking, as many airlines require large travelers to purchase an extra seat—an added expense that can seriously alter travel plans.
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According to National Geographic travel host and award-winning content creator Jeff Jenkins, airlines can definitely do more to make flights accessible for everyone. “We are still waiting on the FAA to give dimensions for standard seat sizes for each aircraft,” he says. “We hope that they listen to us and make seats wider.”

Throw in additional ableist and racial biases, and these roadblocks can escalate substantially. “Whenever I've visited Chicago, I've observed a recurring issue where Black disabled individuals, myself included, are left waiting for assistance for extended periods,” explains Jervae Anthony, artist and founder of Fat Black Liberation. “The available wheelchairs don't cater to those with infinifat bodies, typically above size 32. It's a struggle to survive a form of violence that often goes unnoticed and unaddressed."

However, some airlines are stepping up to the plate. Anthony and others prefer to fly with Southwest, championing the pioneering discount airline as the number one option for people of size.

“Southwest’s popular open seating policy creates the opportunity for customers to have an empty seat next to them without purchasing an additional seat, though we do allow for the purchasing of two seats,” a Southwest representative tells Thrillist. “Safety and comfort are paramount and we aim to always provide the best experience for all customers.”

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Taking part in experiences and excursions

Getting there can be tough, but an entirely different set of obstacles can await fat folks once they’ve reached their destinations.

“I booked an ATV and zipline excursion in Yucatan and purposely called in advance to make sure they would have things to accommodate me,” Ixim says. “The ATV was perfectly fine. But once I reached the zipline, they said that they had one plus-size harness and somebody was using it, so I wasn’t allowed to participate.”

V experienced a similar issue while paragliding in Ohio. “They didn’t have harnesses to properly accommodate larger sizes, so I was half in and half out of a standard harness and had to position myself in a certain way to prevent falling,” she says.

Theme parks also present the problem of not being size-inclusive. V, who loves roller coasters, recalls an upsetting experience where, after waiting in line for two hours to ride a coveted Cedar Point coaster, the park’s staff told her that she wouldn't fit. “I was mortified,” she says.

And V is far from alone. Universal Studios Hollywood recently faced criticism when visitors deemed the Super Nintendo World’s Mario Kart ride fatphobic due to its 40-inch waist limit. When Los Angeles-based television station KTLA pressed the company on this, Universal Studios replied with a statement highlighting their intention to listen to their customers’ needs while emphasizing overall safety. “We have a company-wide task force actively working with this community to make changes that can help them safely increase access to our experiences,” they added.
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Building toward a more inclusive future

Despite the challenges faced while traveling in a large body, there have also been many strides. Just this past May, New York City passed the groundbreaking Anti-Height and Weight Discrimination Bill, which seeks to improve access to public accommodations for bodies of any size and in turn, lays out the welcome mat for visitors of all sizes.

Community members are also coming together to create more size-inclusive travel experiences. Take travel blogger Ashley Wall and attorney Natalie Robinson, the duo behind travel company Fat Girls Travel Too. According to Robinson, the company seeks to “empower and encourage other plus-size women to travel the world and live their best lives.”

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Chastity Garner Valentine in the snowPhoto by Matt Alves

Inspired by her experiences traveling in a large body, influencer and entrepreneur Chastity Garner Valentine launched the now-88,200 member strong Traveling While Plus Size Facebook Group “to give personal tips and tricks on how to navigate travel in large bodies.” And then there’s Jenkins, who hopes that his new series Never Say Never With Jeff Jenkins will inspire and motivate people of size to go on adventures and try new experiences like ziplining and other activities.

Other size-inclusive travel trailblazers include Rebecca Alexander’s AllGo, a service that surveys the fat-friendliness of restaurants, theme parks, and other public spaces, and Everybody Can Surf, the world’s first body-inclusive surf coaching business.

And while this all makes for a good start, in order for things to truly change, we still need to acknowledge and honor the humanity of all people living—and traveling—in large bodies. “We shouldn’t be invisible,” says Wall. “We’re here. We’re fat, and we are going to show up—unapologetically.”

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People of weight/size cause me uncontrollable anxiey. When I see, smell, hear or feel a person of size's corpulent flesh against my own I literally begin to shake uncontrollably and hyperventilate, which exasperates the physiological issue. Being around people of size is literally violence against me. This is my lived experience. Since I pay more in taxes and contribute more to society through my job which requires me to travel, I request that people of size stay at home.
 
See @Stan hasn’t (fatly) replied for a while.
Have they (fatly) fallen on their posting-wand or are they just on their lunch (3) hour?
I have a job, and then I went to the gym. I’m sorry that I wasn’t instantly available for your (mostly baseless) verbal abuse.
literally don't give a fuck, I just hate fatties.
This sounds like a you problem.

Anyway. I want to challenge one last half baked (mm… half baked <3) idea you people have about weight. You all seem to view being fat as a moral failing, like old school people used to view addicts or alcoholics. Modern evidence based medicine however has demonstrated that hormone deficiency and insensitivity can greatly contribute to obesity. Look up “leptin” and “ghrelin.” These two hormones tell the body when it is hungry and when it is satisfied, and derangements of either cause obesity. This all was demonstrated in the lab (on mice) as well as in the field (in humans.) eta: *North Carolina accent* this is why them new-school drugs like Ozempic work.

You are really underestimating the effect of hormones and environment on obesity. Obesity is the predictable result of making rich, high-calorie food abundant, and pricing low quality junk food cheaper than healthier foods. Add to this a lack of opportunity to exercise (say, in a park, or by walking to the grocery and carrying your shit home like I used to do in NYC) and you have a recipe for obesity.

Also, and not for nothing: once a fat person gets diabetes, controlling their weight becomes more challenging. This is because the drugs that manage their blood sugar also promote weight gain.

Is part of this a “personal choice”? Sure, I guess. There are some incorrigible fatties who can’t stop wont stop eating. They are more like addicts than moral failures, though. And it never hurts to have a little compassion. From what I can glean from watching my 600lb life, being massively obese isn’t fun or easy. It’s painful and humiliating, so you don’t need to stick your oar in and dunk on them some more to make yourselves feel thinner/better/healthier.

Some fat people have legitimate medical problems contributing to their obesity. I’m referring to metabolic disorders mainly, but arthritis secondary to high body weight and psychological illness are highly contributory.

You people have already assumed I’m fat merely because I’m challenging your low-IQ conjecture that fat people deserve to be abused. I find that oddly telling. I don’t think I am remarkably fat, but perhaps a bit chubby. (I also just had my first baby a few months ago. If you think hormones can’t effect weight, you should learn about pregnancy and postpartum.) I’m not black, or poor, or uneducated, or even inactive. I could stand to lose 20 pounds, but you could too.

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You all seem to view being fat as a moral failing
It is. Most fats aren't fat because of some glandular hormonal problem outside of their control, they're fat because they eat like fat pigs. I used to eat like a fat pig, didn't realize until I stopped and lost 80 pounds. Putting down the fork is just that easy.
 
Some fat people have legitimate medical problems contributing to their obesity. I’m referring to metabolic disorders mainly, but arthritis secondary to high body weight and psychological illness are highly contributory.

You people have already assumed I’m fat merely because I’m challenging your low-IQ conjecture that fat people deserve to be abused. I find that oddly telling. I don’t think I am remarkably fat, but perhaps a bit chubby. (I also just had my first baby a few months ago. If you think hormones can’t effect weight, you should learn about pregnancy and postpartum.) I’m not black, or poor, or uneducated, or even inactive. I could stand to lose 20 pounds, but you could too.

> They can't exercise due to arthritis

They got that shit cause they were fuckin' fat bro

> I'm not fat, I'm big-boned.


Nigga, you ain't chubby, you're fucking F. A. T... FAT... and a whore too


Only reason you're still arguing is cause you're a butthurt fatty that didn't expect people to realize you were a fuckin' fat kike and probably came here from reddit looking at how you argue. Also, lol expecting the "im a real woman" card to matter here... this isn't somewhere that gives a fuck about that.

lol get a better gimmick faggot. Kvetching fat whore jew is kinda played out.

EDIT... this user has a thread


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This is the opposite of compassion. It's impotent rage at someone (fat person) who is not the root cause of your complaint (airline seat too small).
It's only too small when fatties encroach on my space.

Bigger seats = bigger planes = more fuel = more expensive tickets.

or

Bigger seats = fewer seats = less passengers = more expensive tickets.

I know it's hip to shit on the evil corp airlines, but if this were such a simple fix that's only denied the public due to greedy execs, why is there not a single airline that offers these bigger seats? Why has no rich hamplanet started LardAire Transport to affordably accommodate their fellow "people living in large bodies?" I guess if they took an executive pay cut to make up the difference they wouldnt be able to afford their 3rd lunch.

"It's because the greedy airlines are screwing all of us!" Even if that's the case, what entitles you to make my trip even more uncomfortable?

Should fatties get discount gas too, because it burns more gas for a car to haul their corpulent carcasses from point A to point B than it does me? After all, those oil companies are sooooo greeeedy!

ETA: I dont think being fat in and of itself is necessarily a "moral failing." However, acting like youre "oppressed" or "abused" because airline seats arent 36 inches wide most certainly is.
 
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the indignation you guys have is funny. Here’s my impression of it:

Omfg, the fat people have the temerity to travel in commercial airlines. We gotta shame them relentlessly as they try to go places for business, personal, or leisure. Don’t give a fuck if you’re traveling to your sisters wedding or your dads funeral; you should have thought of that before you got fat. How dare they get a wheelchair or a ride to the gate?! They’re FAT! Seethe seethe.

The best part is that I will put good money on it that the armchair dieticians here gathered are themselves pretty fat.
If I had my way I'd have you all shit, fatty.
 
I hate these fat fucks. They're literally endangering everyone else on the plane just because of the basic laws of physics.

If they're allowed to fly at all, they should be in some kind of ballast section where they can be ejected if their hideous obesity presents a danger to other passengers.
It’s not only fat people who suffer because the airlines pack passengers in like sardines.
It's not your appearance, you moronic cunt, it's that your weight presents actual physical hazards to the plane itself. Stay on the ground, fatty.
 
> They can't exercise due to arthritis

They got that shit cause they were fuckin' fat bro

> I'm not fat, I'm big-boned.


Nigga, you ain't chubby, you're fucking F. A. T... FAT... and a whore too


Only reason you're still arguing is cause you're a butthurt fatty that didn't expect people to realize you were a fuckin' fat kike and probably came here from reddit looking at how you argue. Also, lol expecting the "im a real woman" card to matter here... this isn't somewhere that gives a fuck about that.

lol get a better gimmick faggot. Kvetching fat whore jew is kinda played out.

EDIT... this user has a thread


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They are fat, crazy, and I would not have sex with them.
 
I've been a fat fuck. At no point did I ever need a seatbelt extender and unless European Airlines used small seatbelts in their planes I gotta say if you need a seatbelt extender you're either some Andre The Giant like freak of nature or a ridiculous fat fuck. You need to lose fucking weight ASAP if you're that fat.

Like why is it that Fat Accceptance is never a chick who wears a Size 16? Like yeah they got some pounds that they could definitely shed and look better, but they're not disgusting. It's always a giant pig shaped like the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man. I know the answer, because ordinary fat people are not mistreated.
 
You wish.

Fair enough to say anti-fat and sexism are two different types of bigotry. But is also absolutely true that fat women are the target of anti-fat cruelty to a much greater degree than fat men. Despite the stats in America saying men are actually a bit fatter than women, fat women inspires a male rage that fat men do not. This is because men think women's bodies are a public amenity, so that being fat in public is some kind of assault on their boners.
But why don't you put down the chips, and go for a run first eh?


Or don't, if you truly find them so disgusting. If you're gonna look in the chamber pot don't act surprised when you find a turd.
You type fat.

Apparently, you have never seen medical records of fat fucks.

It is a real treat. Toes and feet being amputated. Joints blown out early. Unable to breathe due to the fat pressing down on their chest. Weeping wounds on their legs that won't heal. Diabetic foot ulcers that have to get debrided. CPAP machines. ESRD. Fatty liver disease.

Go choke on a chicken bone.
 
Fair enough to say anti-fat and sexism are two different types of bigotry. But is also absolutely true that fat women are the target of anti-fat cruelty to a much greater degree than fat men. Despite the stats in America saying men are actually a bit fatter than women, fat women inspires a male rage that fat men do not. This is because men think women's bodies are a public amenity, so that being fat in public is some kind of assault on their boners.

This is true. A fat fuck is still a fat fuck. But fat women are judged much harder. It's still piss poor life choices that land you hundreds of pounds heavier than a normal sized human being.
 
You all seem to view being fat as a moral failing
It is.

like old school people used to view addicts or alcoholics
So is that. Physical dependence isn't, necessarily, but it really isn't even the same thing.

Look up “leptin” and “ghrelin.” These two hormones tell the body when it is hungry and when it is satisfied, and derangements of either cause obesity. This all was demonstrated in the lab (on mice) as well as in the field (in humans.) eta: *North Carolina accent* this is why them new-school drugs like Ozempic work.
I know what leptin and ghrelin are. If that's the primary factor in being "two airplane seats" level fat, then surely the fact that Ozempic exists now means there's no longer any excuse to be fat, right? Gigafats have been eating their way past gastric bypass surgery for years, if it were purely physiological that shouldn't be possible either.

Is part of this a “personal choice”? Sure, I guess. There are some incorrigible fatties who can’t stop wont stop eating.
Not part of it, all of it. I'll grant exceptions for, like, the women abused and force-fed in rural Mauritania.

And it never hurts to have a little compassion
Compassion can only be reasonably expected to extend up to the point where people are having their safety compromised and/or their person physically encroached on by some smelly fat cunt with a sense of entitlement.

It's like talking to fat ChatGPT.
 
the indignation you guys have is funny. Here’s my impression of it:

Omfg, the fat people have the temerity to travel in commercial airlines. We gotta shame them relentlessly as they try to go places for business, personal, or leisure. Don’t give a fuck if you’re traveling to your sisters wedding or your dads funeral; you should have thought of that before you got fat. How dare they get a wheelchair or a ride to the gate?! They’re FAT! Seethe seethe.

The best part is that I will put good money on it that the armchair dieticians here gathered are themselves pretty fat.
Lol calm down
 
It's impotent rage at someone (fat person) who is not the root cause of your complaint (airline seat too small).
The root cause of complaint is people using up the resources (read: weight and volume) that I paid for instead of buying enough for themselves.
The standard seats better pack the majority as efficiently and safely as possible without them paying for more than they use. Those that use more should be charged accordingly to their usage.
 
V experienced a similar issue while paragliding in Ohio. “They didn’t have harnesses to properly accommodate larger sizes, so I was half in and half out of a standard harness and had to position myself in a certain way to prevent falling,” she says
Why on Earth would you risk your life paragliding with an unsuitable harness?

The available wheelchairs don't cater to those with infinifat bodies, typically above size 32. It's a struggle to survive a form of violence
What about the self inflicted violence that "infinifats" are causing to their organs and joints by maintaining their size?
 
Gigafats mad that the world isn't designed for them, big whoop. I check in on /fit/'s fph thread every now and then, and when it isn't full of blatant fetishists I love the videos of 3rd-world equipment giving way beneath smoothbrained lard tards whose barely-human form destroys equipment designed for what I'd ballpark as a maximum of 200 pounds faster than the fats destroy cheeseburgers. Unfortunately, barring a skinny revolution or economic collapse, the obesity trajectory of the west means we'll be forced to redesign things for these "chewed gumball physique"-looking motherfuckers eventually. Glad that if everything goes "well" I'll get to suffer higher airline prices and an even greater difficulty in finding shirts that fit!

Fun fact: my workplace bought what look like bariatric chairs (whether they're technically rated as such, I'm not sure) to replace some old but serviceable beautiful wood chairs that were already exceptionally accommodating. Is this the wave of the future? I don't know! But my gut (or what ~5 pounds of it remains, inshallah it will perish soon) says that this is the Future TM.

JUST (insert bleary-eyed Brendan Frasier here), god damn, for a brief time in the early to mid 20th century we were looking to reach a peak of physical health thanks to sufficient easily-obtainable nutrition, combined with exercise and the lack of downright predatory tactics on the part of corporate slop propagandists.
It's like talking to fat ChatGPT.
FatGPT. FFS, you missed your opportunity.
 
:story: no you don't. You write like a poor person. You probably fly Spirit Airways. ETA: or RyanAir, if you're eurofag scum
Go be poor, fat, british, and unloved in your own lil hugbox there Margie. Your jealousy at how skinny these women are compared to you is showing and no I won't buy you a ticket on Delta just to get into the Lounge. That's for people who can fit in a single seat with good credit.
 
Why on Earth would you risk your life paragliding with an unsuitable harness?
Just like these worthless subhuman fat fucks ignore the laws of medicine, they somehow think they can also literally ignore the laws of physics. I hope they crash and splatter lipids and blood all over the terrain.
Is this the wave of the future?
We're headed to a world of WALL-E looking entitled fat motherfuckers.

Idiocracy, but more like Fatocracy.
 
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