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The Uneasy Truth About Traveling While Fat
Fatphobia, tiny plane seats, and size limits can deter large travelers, but it doesn't have to be this way.

By Cheyenne Davis
Published on 9/15/2023 at 7:58 AM
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In 2019, on a trip to the Bahamas with my mom and sister, my flight turned into an uncomfortable ordeal. My seat belt wasn’t long enough to fasten, and a fellow passenger's visceral reaction added to my discomfort. I repeatedly asked the flight attendant for a seat belt extender and was ignored until takeoff, leaving me feeling disregarded and disrespected.

And this wasn’t the first time I’ve dealt with this particular kind of travel stress. I went to Paris in 2014, and found the city cramped and unwelcoming. Narrow staircases, tiny chairs, and compact showers were just the beginning. Throughout my time there, I endured constant staring, rude comments, and fetishistic remarks about my body. But these types of roadblocks aren’t limited to Paris or my flight to Nassau—Society has an anti-fat bias, and you can encounter it anywhere.

Living in a world fueled by fatphobia creates unnecessary barriers, from limited clothing options to discrimination in medical care, employment, and relationships. According to the NIH, more than two in five adults live in a large body. And yet despite this fact, we continue to face daily challenges—including in travel, where inequities like the ones outlined below so often deny us access to the same life-changing experiences available to others.
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It starts with planning

Travel prep can be exhausting for anyone, but if you're in a large body, it's even more taxing. We tend to lay out our packing lists extra carefully because once you’re out there, lack of sizes and availability can make it very difficult to replace anything you’ve forgotten.

Megan Ixim, a social strategist and entrepreneur, emphasizes the importance of considering these limitations when getting ready for a trip. “I have to think about packing every item I could possibly need, because the chances of not being able to find something as simple as a swimsuit, raincoat, or boots in my size are high,” she says.
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Flying the not-so-friendly skies

Pre-travel prep doesn’t stop at the suitcase. It also includes quelling anxieties around other inevitable aspects of travel—namely, flying.

For inclusive content creator Leah V, pre-flight self care is crucial. “In order to deal with my flight anxiety, I try to hydrate, rest, stretch, and make sure I don’t eat anything that’s going to upset my stomach to avoid using airport and plane bathrooms,” she says, pointing to the tendency for onboard lavatories and multi-stall public restrooms to err on the smaller side.

Bathrooms aren’t the airplane components that fail to accommodate large bodies. Seats—and seat belts, as I learned on my flight to Nassau—can also be a problem. This issue can come into play as early as booking, as many airlines require large travelers to purchase an extra seat—an added expense that can seriously alter travel plans.
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According to National Geographic travel host and award-winning content creator Jeff Jenkins, airlines can definitely do more to make flights accessible for everyone. “We are still waiting on the FAA to give dimensions for standard seat sizes for each aircraft,” he says. “We hope that they listen to us and make seats wider.”

Throw in additional ableist and racial biases, and these roadblocks can escalate substantially. “Whenever I've visited Chicago, I've observed a recurring issue where Black disabled individuals, myself included, are left waiting for assistance for extended periods,” explains Jervae Anthony, artist and founder of Fat Black Liberation. “The available wheelchairs don't cater to those with infinifat bodies, typically above size 32. It's a struggle to survive a form of violence that often goes unnoticed and unaddressed."

However, some airlines are stepping up to the plate. Anthony and others prefer to fly with Southwest, championing the pioneering discount airline as the number one option for people of size.

“Southwest’s popular open seating policy creates the opportunity for customers to have an empty seat next to them without purchasing an additional seat, though we do allow for the purchasing of two seats,” a Southwest representative tells Thrillist. “Safety and comfort are paramount and we aim to always provide the best experience for all customers.”

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Taking part in experiences and excursions

Getting there can be tough, but an entirely different set of obstacles can await fat folks once they’ve reached their destinations.

“I booked an ATV and zipline excursion in Yucatan and purposely called in advance to make sure they would have things to accommodate me,” Ixim says. “The ATV was perfectly fine. But once I reached the zipline, they said that they had one plus-size harness and somebody was using it, so I wasn’t allowed to participate.”

V experienced a similar issue while paragliding in Ohio. “They didn’t have harnesses to properly accommodate larger sizes, so I was half in and half out of a standard harness and had to position myself in a certain way to prevent falling,” she says.

Theme parks also present the problem of not being size-inclusive. V, who loves roller coasters, recalls an upsetting experience where, after waiting in line for two hours to ride a coveted Cedar Point coaster, the park’s staff told her that she wouldn't fit. “I was mortified,” she says.

And V is far from alone. Universal Studios Hollywood recently faced criticism when visitors deemed the Super Nintendo World’s Mario Kart ride fatphobic due to its 40-inch waist limit. When Los Angeles-based television station KTLA pressed the company on this, Universal Studios replied with a statement highlighting their intention to listen to their customers’ needs while emphasizing overall safety. “We have a company-wide task force actively working with this community to make changes that can help them safely increase access to our experiences,” they added.
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Building toward a more inclusive future

Despite the challenges faced while traveling in a large body, there have also been many strides. Just this past May, New York City passed the groundbreaking Anti-Height and Weight Discrimination Bill, which seeks to improve access to public accommodations for bodies of any size and in turn, lays out the welcome mat for visitors of all sizes.

Community members are also coming together to create more size-inclusive travel experiences. Take travel blogger Ashley Wall and attorney Natalie Robinson, the duo behind travel company Fat Girls Travel Too. According to Robinson, the company seeks to “empower and encourage other plus-size women to travel the world and live their best lives.”

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Chastity Garner Valentine in the snowPhoto by Matt Alves

Inspired by her experiences traveling in a large body, influencer and entrepreneur Chastity Garner Valentine launched the now-88,200 member strong Traveling While Plus Size Facebook Group “to give personal tips and tricks on how to navigate travel in large bodies.” And then there’s Jenkins, who hopes that his new series Never Say Never With Jeff Jenkins will inspire and motivate people of size to go on adventures and try new experiences like ziplining and other activities.

Other size-inclusive travel trailblazers include Rebecca Alexander’s AllGo, a service that surveys the fat-friendliness of restaurants, theme parks, and other public spaces, and Everybody Can Surf, the world’s first body-inclusive surf coaching business.

And while this all makes for a good start, in order for things to truly change, we still need to acknowledge and honor the humanity of all people living—and traveling—in large bodies. “We shouldn’t be invisible,” says Wall. “We’re here. We’re fat, and we are going to show up—unapologetically.”

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Unfortunately, psychological and sociological studies have shown that shame is not an effective motivator of change. Shame actually drives fat people to overeat and gain more weight. Similarly, shaming gays doesn't make them straight, and shaming alcoholics just makes them drink in secret.
One of these things is not like the other. Gay people are born gay, nobody is born genetically fat, and nobody is born an alcoholic either. In order to become fat you need to take in more calories than you expend, period. In order to become an alcoholic, you need to drink alcohol.

You are contending that shame makes fatties overeat, well, what caused them to overeat in the first place? Let's just say you are correct (I don't think you are, but still...) and shaming fatties is counterproductive. What then would you offer as a solution to the problem of obesity? Because it seems to me that accepting fatties as they are isn't going to motivate them to quit stuffing their faces and get some fucking exercise. If not shame, what do you propose as an alternative?
 
The best part is that I will put good money on it that the armchair dieticians here gathered are themselves pretty fat.
Alternate hypothesis: No u.

I fit in my airline seat. If your obese ass is forcing me to scrunch my shoulders while your hamhock arm is oozing over the armrest, youre encroaching on my seat. All the "compassion" in the world doesnt change the fact that youre literally stealing space that I paid for.
 
I also have noticed that plane seats are so small these days. I’m a small woman and even I think there’s no legroom. It must be hellish being over six foot or broad shouldered on a long flight. They’ve really reduced the leg room over the last couple of decades. If this forces airlines to dial back some of the crazy seat pitch reductions they’ve had the last few years then good.
It's all about the shekels. And while I agree that I don't want to be pressed to death by my seatmate, I'm not going to blame them for the airline's decision to give each of us about half a square meter of space and upcharge for legroom.

And yeah, it's hard for tall people, or broad-framed people. My mother is quite tall, when she comes to see me I spring for the premium economy seats so she can move her legs inflight. I'm '5"5 and I can deal with the small seats, but I do notice the shrinkage.
 
Easier solution to the fat menace. Raise the temperature in airports and airplanes to no less than 80 °F. At this temperature, even mildly fat people will become uncomfortable and start overheating. Obese persons will face a much higher risk of heat stroke under these conditions as well. In a perfectly tuned system, the undesirables will simply collapse while waiting in the security line and thereby never endanger the comfort of other passengers on the plane.
 
What then would you offer as a solution to the problem of obesity? Because it seems to me that accepting fatties as they are isn't going to motivate them to quit stuffing their faces and get some fucking exercise. If not shame, what do you propose as an alternative?
This is getting into the broader question of "why are the developed nations becoming so obese?" And that's a multi-factor problem that requires a multi-factor solution. But here's a few things off the top of my head:

> More walkable neighborhoods, so people can accomplish their chores without driving
> More parks, add fitness equipment to existing parks
> Most obese people learn poor eating habits and to avoid exercise from childhood. Schools need to increase the amount of exercise kids are getting in elementary school, middle school, high school. Include dance classes, hikes, sports electives like weightlifting, etc.
> Healthier school lunch. I know this is partially implemented in the US (e.g. eliminating soda vending machines on campus)
> Nutritional counseling as part of primary care. Support groups for obese patients where they can attend seminars on healthy cooking, managing diabetes especially. (Many diabetes drugs cause weight gain as they control blood sugar.)
> Sugar excise tax (? it worked for cigarettes)
> Gain the personal enlightenment that you cannot force change unto others; you can't make anyone diet, you can't force anyone to exercise.
> Be supportive for fuck's sake. Don't dunk on fat people trying to diet, fat people going for a jog. Don't be a bully, is that so much to ask?

 
Don't dunk on fat people trying to diet, fat people going for a jog.
I don't, and never would, because they are actively trying to do something to lose weight and not be a fatty. But what I see a lot more of are fatties eating an entire large meat-lovers pizza by themselves, or eating an entire bucket of fried chicken by themselves, or drinking literal gallons of soda every day, and those are the people who need to be shamed for their conduct, because for whatever reason, they lack the self-control to moderate their food intake. Shaming them for their choices is a valid way to get them to consider that maybe they should try to make better choices.

Ultimately, if you are overweight or obese, it is entirely your own fault. All of the suggestions for improving public health that you made above are useless if you aren't putting the blame squarely where it belongs, which is on the fat person themself.

It's just like with AGP men publicly trooning out, fifteen years ago, they would cross-dress and jack off to the idea of being a woman in private, but as soon as society quit shaming them for being a sexual deviant, you see them everywhere, and they have ever-escalating demands to shit up women's sports, wave their dicks around in women's locker rooms, be allowed access to women's rape crisis centers, domestic violence shelters and prisons, forcing people into playing along with their fetish by calling them "she", etc.

We need to make degenerate behavior shameful again. Why do you think that such a strong social stigma evolved in the first place around deviant behavior? It's one of the mechanisms whereby society keeps itself together.
 
I see a lot more of are fatties eating an entire large meat-lovers pizza by themselves, or eating an entire bucket of fried chicken by themselves, or drinking literal gallons of soda every day, and those are the people who need to be shamed for their conduct, because for whatever reason, they lack the self-control to moderate their food intake. Shaming them for their choices is a valid way to get them to consider that maybe they should try to make better choices.
Except this does not work. There is research that has proven several times over that this doesn't work. You may be able to shame fatties into becoming reclusive fatties, sort of like how shaming AGPs sent them deeper into the closet, but the behavior doesn't stop just cause you can no longer witness it. Shaming and isolating people isn't good for mental health, and poor mental health is often a component of obesity and overeating.

Do you grab the cigarettes from smoker's hands and toss them on the ground? If not, you're being inconsistent. Don't approach random fat strangers to comment on their lunch. It's rude, and I hope you are not actually doing this IRL but just fantasy posting about it.
We need to make degenerate behavior shameful again. Why do you think that such a strong social stigma evolved in the first place around deviant behavior? It's one of the mechanisms whereby society keeps itself together.
Certain societies evolved a practice of human sacrifice because they thought the gods demanded blood in exchange for a good harvest. "A society in the past used to do this" isn't sufficient reason to return to the practice.
 
I'm a tall individual that has to fly for 8 hours each way every 2-3 months for business. During peak seasons, business and first class are not usually available because my destination is a popular tourist location, so I have to scrunch up into the seat. It's uncomfortable, sure. But I bitch about it privately with the family and friends. Being tall isn't anything I can change. Fatties can but won't lose weight, and I will mock them. There are few people as unwarrently entitled as these gravy blooded fatbacks, and they deserve our disgust.
 
You may be able to shame fatties into becoming reclusive fatties, sort of like how shaming AGPs sent them deeper into the closet
I would be fine with this. If I don't have to see a ham planet slowly committing suicide by porking up, let them have at it. Same goes for AGPs or anyone else into sick kink shit. Keep it behind closed doors, and I don't have a problem with it unless you try to indoctrinate kids.
Certain societies evolved a practice of human sacrifice because they thought the gods demanded blood in exchange for a good harvest. "A society in the past used to do this" isn't sufficient reason to return to the practice.
This argument is invalid. Every society in human history, including this one until recently, has defined certain conduct to be shameful, and worthy of derision and/or punishment. Shame is a human universal, comparing it to something like human sacrifice is intellectually dishonest.
 
This is getting into the broader question of "why are the developed nations becoming so obese?" And that's a multi-factor problem that requires a multi-factor solution. But here's a few things off the top of my head:

> More walkable neighborhoods, so people can accomplish their chores without driving
> More parks, add fitness equipment to existing parks
> Most obese people learn poor eating habits and to avoid exercise from childhood. Schools need to increase the amount of exercise kids are getting in elementary school, middle school, high school. Include dance classes, hikes, sports electives like weightlifting, etc.
> Healthier school lunch. I know this is partially implemented in the US (e.g. eliminating soda vending machines on campus)
> Nutritional counseling as part of primary care. Support groups for obese patients where they can attend seminars on healthy cooking, managing diabetes especially. (Many diabetes drugs cause weight gain as they control blood sugar.)
> Sugar excise tax (? it worked for cigarettes)
> Gain the personal enlightenment that you cannot force change unto others; you can't make anyone diet, you can't force anyone to exercise.
> Be supportive for fuck's sake. Don't dunk on fat people trying to diet, fat people going for a jog. Don't be a bully, is that so much to ask?


Ah, so it's a fat redditor from car hate or a 15 minute city shill... that explains why they are such a fuckin moron.

Cause lol, nigga you fat as fuck. I can sense it in your writing... the yellow tallow just leaking from every word you type.

Edit: found a pic of what Stan wishes they looked like... dey too poor for lipo tho

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the indignation you guys have is funny. Here’s my impression of it:

Omfg, the fat people have the temerity to travel in commercial airlines. We gotta shame them relentlessly as they try to go places for business, personal, or leisure. Don’t give a fuck if you’re traveling to your sisters wedding or your dads funeral; you should have thought of that before you got fat. How dare they get a wheelchair or a ride to the gate?! They’re FAT! Seethe seethe.

The best part is that I will put good money on it that the armchair dieticians here gathered are themselves pretty fat.
Lol you mad that You too fat to walk.

Lose weight fattso.
 
The sad news is that the Antonov An-225, the largest aircraft ever built, was destroyed in the early days of the Russia-Ukraine war.

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You could have fit 3, maybe 4, fat people in that.
 
I seriously want bad things to happen to anyone who thinks being denied a fatty fatty fat fat wheelchair in an airport is a "form of violence". Maybe you should use your fucking legs more, that's how you got fat in the first place. By the way, just how fat is Cheyenne Davis, the author of this retarded bullshit?



Holy shit, they're multiplying like tribbles, probably because they eat like tribbles. I had to double check to make sure this wasn't the Dove chick.
Fat people traveling make everyone else uneasy too.
Yeah, if they fall down on the way to the toilet they might make the plane pitch up and stall. If they roll further aft it might become unrecoverable.
It must be hellish being over six foot or broad shouldered on a long flight.
You have no idea. I've had some cramps in my legs after some flights on account of how forced my leg posture was.
Alternate hypothesis: No u.

I fit in my airline seat. If your obese ass is forcing me to scrunch my shoulders while your hamhock arm is oozing over the armrest, youre encroaching on my seat. All the "compassion" in the world doesnt change the fact that youre literally stealing space that I paid for.
What little of it the airlines have given you, that is. Fucking assholes.
 
Ah, so it's a fat redditor from car hate or a 15 minute city shill... that explains why they are such a fuckin moron.

Cause lol, nigga you fat as fuck. I can sense it in your writing... the yellow tallow just leaking from every word you type.

Edit: found a pic of what Stan wishes they looked like... dey too poor for lipo tho

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You're one to talk about being an idiot.
I will post a picture of my physique right now along with a Monero wallet where you can send the $10 you will inevitably lose on your bet.
Then do it. Post your picture here.
 
Fat is not normal. Fat is the state of eating way too much. In fact, if you were to take you average fattie and send them back to the time of WW1, you'd be considered a freak. And that's because of the balloonish proportions your average fat tend to have. There is also the fact that fat people are a litany of medical complications that are only held back by blood pressure medicine and diabetic medicine. But even that doesn't help when a fattie hits age 50 because that's usually the time the body really breaks down.

A morbidly obese person is a person trying to commit slow suicide.
 
You're one to talk about being an idiot.

Then do it. Post your picture here.

Okay Porky, just cause I talk like a nigger for effect doesn't mean I am one... but you, you're just fat, right down to your very soul. Like can't wipe your own ass fat.

I can sense the earth shaking from your temper-tantrum you're having right now. Why else would you keep coming back whining about it and doing these pitiful gotchas?
 
Omfg, the fat people have the temerity to travel in commercial airlines.
I don't care how they travel, as long as I'm not smushed up against the window sat next to one on a plane.

We gotta shame them relentlessly as they try to go places for business, personal, or leisure.
lol, fat people have no business

Don’t give a fuck if you’re traveling to your sisters wedding or your dads funeral;
what % of travellers are fat people that are flying to their sisters wedding or fathers funeral? 0.1%? 0.001%? Would it be the same or less as people who have social anxiety and have to fly? Why not cater entire articles and buzzwords to them?
 
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