The Tomorrow War (2021) - "Starship Troopers" for zoomers

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The Tomorrow War (2021) - IMDb

The Tomorrow War: Directed by Chris McKay. With Chris Pratt, Yvonne Strahovski, J.K. Simmons, Betty Gilpin. A family man is drafted to fight in a future war where the fate of humanity relies on his ability to confront the past.
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In The TOMORROW WAR, the world is stunned when a group of time travelers arrive from the year 2051 to deliver an urgent message: Thirty years in the future mankind is losing a global war against a deadly alien species. The only hope for survival is for soldiers and civilians from the present to be transported to the future and join the fight. Among those recruited is high school teacher and family man Dan Forester (Chris Pratt). Determined to save the world for his young daughter, Dan teams up with a brilliant scientist (Yvonne Strahovski) and his estranged father (J.K. Simmons) in a desperate quest to rewrite the fate of the planet.
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So I've only heard about this movie because wokies are just seething at Chris Pratt.

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The cynic in me makes me think that it's all manufactured controversy just to drum up interest in the movie, while the rest just run with it and do their bitching about him on twidder.

Anyone watched it yet?
 
I did, it was a dumb but fun action movie with a good ending.
The visual effects were good and the characters were fun. The story went in an interesting direction even if the first half of the film makes you want to scream "how could a military be this stupid"?.
However, there was nothing in the movie that made me feel "this is going to piss off those sjws" or "this is a working class man's film". The drama surrounding the film is for nothing. Maybe they just hate Chris Prat for whatever reason. But yes the controversy could easily be manufactured.
 
I get the sense that this is a "hey y'all, let's pull together and [defeat-climate-change/eat-the-bugs/live-in-a-pod], you stupid fucking inbred hillbillies" sort of thing. This is Amazon, after all - why would they care about normal people?

If aliens invaded, the first thing I'd see is what they're offering over the current establishment. If they want to leave me alone and won't chop my kids nuts off, they got a deal. Anything beyond that - forcing Jeff Bezos to gnarfle the garthok to restore his honor, dumping Bill Gates into a hellgate with his gay mosquitoes - is bonus material.

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Arena scene from the movie Coneheads. Best stop motion animation I have ever seen. The kind you wouldn't expect in this kind of movie.
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Whenever I see something - especially from a lefty outlet like Amazon, but tbh you should scrutinize all media regardless of source - I first ask myself who benefits from the message they are pushing?
 
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I saw a bit of and it was okay but eventually I checked out and remembered a little Chris Pratt goes a long fucking way.
 
In a near future America a mostly black squad of soldiers fights against an alien race called the "white spikes." At one point the black lady commander goes "You can't reason with them! they care about nothing other than the survival of their species!"

Holy shit. These Hollywood Jews aren't even trying to be subtle anymore are they?
 
The film is entertaining if you're into this sort of thing. It was much better than I was expecting. At first, it felt a bit, it's ok, but it moved on to very enjoyable. Although some plot aspects are clunky. I very much enjoyed watching it.

From my online overview of opinions. Fans of the genre agree it's better than expected. Entertaining. Those with issues are spergs who just nitpick on every detail and can't sit back and just enjoy it for what it is.
 
As far as alien invasion movies go, I liked "Beyond Skyline" and "Skylines" (or "Skylin3s") much better than this middling, faintly entertaining effort - two direct-to-video sequels to a "eh" theatrical release, a wild comeback from that first film, impressive bar-raising stuff for what DTV productions can achieve, and one of the most fun modern sci-fi action series. A tad derivative in points, but I enjoyed how the makers just embraced a why-not vibe and swung for the fences.
 
I almost made a thread on Tomorrow War the other day after watching it, but with the 4th on the horizon I simply didn't have time.

With that said, it's woke garbage making a vague attempt at not looking like woke garbage. At some point Chris Pratt and his dad are leading a time of entirely black/asian/hispanic people off to discover the buried alien spaceship. Honestly, if I was a woke type person and looked at it long and hard, I'd probably think it was insanely racist because they almost consistently imply that all the women and minorities except Cancer Black Man are either woefully inept or absolute cowards. The one Fat Black Man/Comedic Relief informs Chris Pratt/the audience that he only survived because he hid while his comrades got brutally murdered by the aliens.

Fat Black Man is later redeemed when he kills an armadillo-alien with a circular saw to the face (because he was too cowardly to fight them before, but it's no biggie now!)

They also opened the door on the alien spaceship with said circular saw, so there's that. Mechanically inclined Kiwis feel free to seethe about the impossibility of a circular saw cutting through 8 inches of alien space metal.

I will give them a smidgen of credit for stealing Larry Niven's plot for Man-Kzin Wars and having the armadillo-aliens there because another, more intelligent alien race was transporting them around (presumably for use as a bio-weapon, but they could have been cattle or slaves or God knows what).

It's basically one long lesson in the singular truth of the sci-fi community; if you see a good sci-fi show, it was probably ripped off from Ray Bradberry, Larry Niven, or one of their contemporaries (Harlan Ellison, Greg Pournell, etc).
 
Watching it was a real mixed bag for me. I was pretty bored in the beginning part since the screenplay was the very epitome of by the numbers and nothing that was going on made much sense but I thought I could forgive it as long as it led to something interesting. It kinda did. They had a neat monster design and knew how to make set pieces around it. When it became clear the whole premise was an allegory for fighting climate change now and not leaving it for our children to deal with I was quite surprised. I wasn't expecting the movie to have any real ideas behind it so that and the fact that it was delivered in a way that wasn't utterly ham-fisted or eye-rolling made me like it a lot more. Well, at least until it was revealed that it was literally melting glaciers that released the aliens but oh well.
 
I watched it and think it's a good shut your brain off and watch military people shoot alien dogs with tentacles. I couldn't find any overarching theme besides the tenuous message about family and sticking together. Sad this passes as a decent flick these days but it's what we got.

One thing I thought was pretty cool was when the protagonists were trying to find the origins of the Whitespikes, they found it might have originated from China. This reminded me of the Tao Tei monsters from The Great Wall movie and I found it pretty funny how similarly designed the Tao Tei and Whitespikes are. Both are dog/big cat style monsters with similar maws and teeth. The Whitespikes just have tentacles, prawn hands and are a bit slimmer.

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When it became clear the whole premise was an allegory for fighting climate change now and not leaving it for our children to deal with I was quite surprised. I wasn't expecting the movie to have any real ideas behind it so that and the fact that it was delivered in a way that wasn't utterly ham-fisted or eye-rolling made me like it a lot more. Well, at least until it was revealed that it was literally melting glaciers that released the aliens but oh well.
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I don't think the premise was necessarily an allegory for fighting climate change. The Whitespikes were found to be cargo from a crashed spaceship that crashed ages ago. It just so happened the cold and remoteness kept them in hibernation until something perturbed them to wake. From what I got, the aliens would have waken up by something or the other.
 
This was a big nothing of a movie. All the characters are really one-dimensional and the plot is beyond generic. I feel like if the alien invasion was ment as a metaphor for environmental collapse it was weak as fuck.

I see that people are really angry at the amount of bluacks led around by Pratt but it feels like they just had to condescendingly pepper some of those as tertiary characters, and the emotional chore of the movie is the blonde-white-suburban family. The lessons Pratt learns are also really transparent "don't divorce your wife, it's bad, it's the same as abandoning your family, your daughter will resent you and you will die 2 years later" and "welcome back your survivialist dad into the family. He is righ the goverment are pussies".

It wouldn't be a problem to me if the movie were good, or at least funny. But it's not. It's terribly self-serious for how naive and generic it is. It feels like an expensive hallmark movie with aliens, guns and gore. Great showreel for Yvonne Strahovski to try and get those stupid Marvel roles that make stupid money tho. She was okay.


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Just so I understand this movie, which I just finished, they combined Matt Damon's The Great Wall with the Hollywood trope of 'Bad Father' redemption arc and set it in 2050?

If you know there is going to be a sudden new species (which I thought was going to be some sort of subterranean dinosaur twist) in ~30 years do you fight for 30 years with the R&D of the present or do you fight when the aliens are at max strength and humanity is at minimum strength? Via a electro-temporal catapult of your manpower physically at them like bullets, no less? This is the worse plan, literally double-crossing the future with a surprise one million 100 Mt Tsar Bomba world-wide Exterminatus and constructing Fallout Vaults to preserve enough of humanity would be a cooler and better plan than that.

Should the next movie have the Great White Fleet teleport from Hampton Roads, Virginia on February 22, 1909 into Pearl Harbor at 7:48 a.m. Hawaiian Time, December 7, 1941? Could you imagine a movie about that? 4 machine guns per battleship and 8x 1-pounder Mark 6s taking on the entire Kidō Butai air-force. That makes about as much sense as the .17 Mach IV firearms the soldiers seemed to carry in this film given the effect. If the bullets don't penetrate, then you're going to need a bigger gun. The logic of using unsuppressed, extremely short-barreled, and at-most 5.56 NATO caliber weapons in urban combat against very hard to kill aliens is kind of suspect. .300 AAC Blackout, 6.8 SPC, .458 SOCOM, or even the .458 Winchester Magnum ammo exists. If it can kill a rhino then it can kill these things.

I don't know, as a father I'm just sour about another 'bad dad' movie trope. I'll get over it.
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cool monsters and CGI though.
 
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