The Tomboy Question(s)

[WelperHelper99]

so apparently there's now this whole ass mainstreamish anime about the tomboy dynamic lmao



sorta similar to this but it's fucking anime

Tomo chan is old as fuck as a manga at least, do research kid. As for the tomboy question:

That simple. That pure. I'm a welder, rough and tumble. If she don't like guns, God, trucks, the smell of metal, and doesn't kick some ass on her own, she can fuck right off.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Tomo chan is old as fuck as a manga at least, do research kid. As for the tomboy question:
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That simple. That pure. I'm a welder, rough and tumble. If she don't like guns, God, trucks, the smell of metal, and doesn't kick some ass on her own, she can fuck right off.

I'm gonna be honest, i'm with him.

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

Double post, but this is how a real tomboy, Jarmila Kratochvilova, looks like:

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Hair from the chest all the way to the balls.

Jesus. Caster Semenya looks more feminine than this guy.

That's a dude who tucks.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

The tomboy shit is super duper gay, and to embrace my inner male feminist it feels awfully insulting.

If all these tards like "tomboys" they really aren't helping their cause by making women feel like they're weird or you're separating them into a fetishized category just because they sometimes do strength training or play sports or w/e; not to mention "tomboy" is almost always a fairly diminishing term used to refer to children.

I like women you can toss around a little bit too, but I never felt the need to classify those people as anything other than "women".

Niggers here acting like trannies obsessing over rigid gender labels and subcategories.

 

[Psyduck]

Noticed that when people imagine tomboys, they always picture them as having Stacey's face and body, but with a man's clothes. That makes me assume they haven't met an actual tomboyish woman in all their plain, plump and completely unremarkable glory

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

The tomboy shit is super duper gay, and to embrace my inner male feminist it feels awfully insulting.

If all these tards like "tomboys" they really aren't helping their cause by making women feel like they're weird or you're separating them into a fetishized category just because they sometimes do strength training or play sports or w/e; not to mention "tomboy" is almost always a fairly diminishing term used to refer to children.

I like women you can toss around a little bit too, but I never felt the need to classify those people as anything other than "women".

Niggers here acting like trannies obsessing over rigid gender labels and subcategories.

That's why I just cut the shit, and exclusively fuck men instead
You're not a true based and redpilled misogynist unless you're gayer than Australian ice-cream

 

[Protistology]

Implying Temple Grandin isn't bae.

 

[Spob]

Noticed that when people imagine tomboys, they always picture them as having Stacey's face and body, but with a man's clothes. That makes me assume they haven't met an actual tomboyish woman in all their plain, plump and completely unremarkable glory

It's honestly not that much different from how there are a bajillion different flavors of trannies, like HSTS, AGP, you name it.

As such, I hereby propose the following categorization scheme:
* 4chan tomboy - incel fantasy
* childhood best friend tomboy - most 80s-90s movie tomboys, probably still fantasy but maybe like 10% less incelly
* autistic girl tomboy - tomboy mainly because being a tradwife or slut is too much sensory overload; alas, many troon out
* circumstantial tomboy - lives in rural area where gender rules are given less of a fuck about; maybe some overlap with the other categories

 

[WelperHelper99]

It's honestly not that much different from how there are a bajillion different flavors of trannies, like HSTS, AGP, you name it.

As such, I hereby propose the following categorization scheme:
* 4chan tomboy - incel fantasy
* childhood best friend tomboy - most 80s-90s movie tomboys, probably still fantasy but maybe like 10% less incelly
* autistic girl tomboy - tomboy mainly because being a tradwife or slut is too much sensory overload; alas, many troon out
* circumstantial tomboy - lives in rural area where gender rules are given less of a fuck about; maybe some overlap with the other categories

I think this could be added upon. There's many tomboys in welding, as women have started to enter more and more. There a different breed. If they can't take a little harassment, they get weeded out in trade schools before long. Also are usually slightly autistic, as MANY welders are (you can only weld so many 3G vertical welds without going nuts unless you're built a little different). Trades I argue is where many go to when no option is left; too much of a will to become a neet, but enough autism to do repetitive tasks. Women are pretty good at this stuff in my observation. And they can be as crass as the guys, which is how they survive in the work environment (we are proud misogynists). I would classify this as something in between the autistic and circumstantial tomboy: the Worker Tomboy.

 

[Spob]

I think this could be added upon. There's many tomboys in welding, as women have started to enter more and more. There a different breed. If they can't take a little harassment, they get weeded out in trade schools before long. Also are usually slightly autistic, as MANY welders are (you can only weld so many 3G vertical welds without going nuts unless you're built a little different). Trades I argue is where many go to when no option is left; too much of a will to become a neet, but enough autism to do repetitive tasks. Women are pretty good at this stuff in my observation. And they can be as crass as the guys, which is how they survive in the work environment (we are proud misogynists). I would classify this as something in between the autistic and circumstantial tomboy: the Worker Tomboy.

Yeah I wrote this in a hurry on a bus, should've probably defined circumstantial as "ended up in rural area or career field where gender rules are given less of a fuck about"

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

The tomboy shit is super duper gay, and to embrace my inner male feminist it feels awfully insulting.

If all these tards like "tomboys" they really aren't helping their cause by making women feel like they're weird or you're separating them into a fetishized category just because they sometimes do strength training or play sports or w/e; not to mention "tomboy" is almost always a fairly diminishing term used to refer to children.

I like women you can toss around a little bit too, but I never felt the need to classify those people as anything other than "women".

Niggers here acting like trannies obsessing over rigid gender labels and subcategories.

Nigger I have made it a point in my lifr to only talk to tomboys, which are literally eomen that understand how men act around wach other and don't act surprised when they call each other "Niggerfaggot" ehen doing regular shit. I understand and agree that a woman needs a man that can provide and care for her but I can't deal with the drama, excessive whining, general incompatibility and lack of understanding of men most women have. Women are hot but wasting your time and possibly life with a woman that doesn't even understand you nor has much in common with you past wanting to fuck is a terrible way to spend your life. Frankly, I think men that like tomboys have their heads on right since they recognize there's just something wromg with modern women and becoming a literal faggot to find romantic company is a bit fucking ridiculous. I don't know. I never bothered with dating many women since I knew my type since fucking kindergarten were tomboys and I rarely see any. It sucks but it's better than wasting time with someone you only like because of their face, tits and ass not love because of that and she is a genuinely good friend and person.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Nigger I have made it a point in my lifr to only talk to tomboys, which are literally eomen that understand how men act around wach other and don't act surprised when they call each other "Niggerfaggot" ehen doing regular shit. I understand and agree that a woman needs a man that can provide and care for her but I can't deal with the drama, excessive whining, general incompatibility and lack of understanding of men most women have. Women are hot but wasting your time and possibly life with a woman that doesn't even understand you nor has much in common with you past wanting to fuck is a terrible way to spend your life. Frankly, I think men that like tomboys have their heads on right since they recognize there's just something wromg with modern women and becoming a literal faggot to find romantic company is a bit fucking ridiculous. I don't know. I never bothered with dating many women since I knew my type since fucking kindergarten were tomboys and I rarely see any. It sucks but it's better than wasting time with someone you only like because of their face, tits and ass not love because of that and she is a genuinely good friend and person.

My brother, I feel that. Someone that gets the shit you go through on the daily. She's not purely soft, like a toy poodle, she understands life is hard, and guys have it hard. She respects you for all you do, wants to be like you, kick ass like you, watch the same movies, play the same games; it's just cute.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

My convictions about what tomboys are, are more solid than they were... damn, it's been nearly two years since I pitched these questions. My convictions about the burgeoning popularity of the concept and archetype are also more solid... and more cynical.

At any rate, I appreciate that this thread still attracts insights on the matter.

Also, @Protistology:

At first I was gonna quote the kids and say "you got me fucked up".

Then I thought... eh. Not bad.

 

[Sissyagamben]

I wager it’s the trope that stems from "they/them pussy" that traces back to "crazy girls have the best pussy/bpd stands for best pussy disorder." especially for the 18-25 demographic, i think.

I don’t think they are referring to real and natural tomboys who likes to fish, hunt, fix cars, work in construction or put out forest fires. Those are also most likely lesbians. They want a mostly feminine mentally insane woman with no sense of self, who cut her hair short and uses they/she pronouns in the last one to two years. Oooh she’s a gamer too what are you talking about that’s sooo misogynistic are you saying animal crossing is not a real video game!?! Now she’s going to cut herself and it’s all your fault.

Spoiler: ot n tmi

i used to be a tomboy when i was growing up, and most of it, for me, were twauma and social difficulties. i don't think being less into traditionally girlly things has to come from trauma, but i do feel like a lot of traumatized girls usually have a period in their life where they wish to do away with femininity. I wasn’t into real boy stuffs, the only boys I were friends with post puberty were super effeminate gays, I just didn’t “associate with stupid girl stuff.” I mean I do have a very strong personality and get into internet autism stuff since I'm here, I guess that could be considered masculine…I have been constantly referred to as they in my gender bs polluted hellhole city, and not because ppl use that on everyone to be progressive and posh. I feel like the phenomenon is the current day's manic pixies dream girl, mentally ill bitches who need attention and narcissistic reinforcements used to dye their hair and buy vinyl records, now they get on testosterones or at least put they/she in instagram and twitter bio. Thank God I have turned out mostly normal after adulthood and aged out of the crazy, but goddamn do i know and observe so many of my unfortunate kind. its definitely a trend, and this is why I think transgenderism is a trap to neuter insane population.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Forget if I posted this but any dude that's into tomboys is in the closet. You want a dude with no dick.
What I like is what I call the pioneer tradwife, it's a woman who is traditionally feminine in aesthetic but also has some kind of grit, embodied in pioneers because they wore long dresses and bonnets but also shot Indians and cut heads off chickens.
These do still exist, but seem fairly rare.

 

[Shidoen]

Anyone who says it's gay to have or want a tomboy as a gf or wife has never been with one, thus it is a flawed accusation.

 

[Mr Bubbless]

I like tomboys because short hair is hot. It's not that deep.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Forget if I posted this but any dude that's into tomboys is in the closet. You want a dude with no dick.
What I like is what I call the pioneer tradwife, it's a woman who is traditionally feminine in aesthetic but also has some kind of grit, embodied in pioneers because they wore long dresses and bonnets but also shot Indians and cut heads off chickens.
These do still exist, but seem fairly rare.

The essence of being gay is liking dick, so fucking a tranny is gay because it has a dick, it doesn’t matter if the person with the dick like to present feminine and acts out feminine tropes. Doesn’t matter if the pussy haver is a car mechanic, it still don’t have a dick and them balls

I’ll meet you half way here, I’ll say it is a little bit gay, like a guy painting nails. But again, if the painting nails is to attract women(many such cases), it’s not actually homosexual. Now if they only want to fuck the tomboy in the ass… Sodomy is always gay and they are going to hell for that

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

@Sissyagamben I really just want a normal, emotionally honest, intelligent nice girl I can hang out with and talk to like a fucking normal person instead of a child. It just seems that most women have no idea what the average dude wants other than being physically attractive (which I am not denying isn't important). They don't hobbies like playing an instrument, science, philosophy,, anthropology, basic animal rearing skills (like small animals, not like cows like Temple Grandin although she is based) or anything like that. It kinda limits the actual depth of your relationship if you can't actually talk about things you are passionate about and both of you can do together. I really don't see tomboy as an aesthetic, but more as a mindset. Sure, a lot of tomboys wear boys clothes and have short hair, but really what makes the tomboy is really the amount of passion she has for something and her willingness to break social norms just a little bit to live out the life she wants to live and kinda self-actualize herself as a person. In that sense, I can think of dozens or so women that fall into that category. Only problem is they are older than me and don't live anywhere near me. I don't hate women or femininity, but I do genuinely want a woman that I can find some commonalities with and start a life together.

Forget if I posted this but any dude that's into tomboys is in the closet. You want a dude with no dick.
What I like is what I call the pioneer tradwife, it's a woman who is traditionally feminine in aesthetic but also has some kind of grit, embodied in pioneers because they wore long dresses and bonnets but also shot Indians and cut heads off chickens.
These do still exist, but seem fairly rare.

If you are going to post retarded takes, at least bother to do some amount of research into what people mean by tomboys. By definition, if you like a particular type of female, you are not gay. Tomboys are females, ergo, men that like tomboys aren't gay. Idk, it's a hard stretch to go from liking girls that you can hang out with to liking men, but retards like you seems to cross that gap with your insecurities and project them onto others.

I like tomboys because short hair is hot. It's not that deep.

I don't agree fully because there are tomboys with long hair but that's understandable.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

@Neil Peart's Ghost Rider: I'm glad we both essentially agree with that one Latina researcher who learned all her English from Barbara Streisand movies.

They want a mostly feminine mentally insane woman with no sense of self, who cut her hair short and uses they/she pronouns in the last one to two years. Oooh she’s a gamer too what are you talking about that’s sooo misogynistic are you saying animal crossing is not a real video game!?! Now she’s going to cut herself and it’s all your fault.

I am 102%* sure they don't want this. Every single slavering session about tomboys that I've witnessed on the internet thus far has never involved them indicating that they want anything near this.

I get that many of the men doing anything up to and including convulsing while grunting out "need... tomboy gf" have given up on trying to seduce women and have instead resorted to dreaming up women like they've stepped into Build-a-Bint, but much of the reason many of those young male nerds like tomboys is because they haven't reconciled with female social peculiarities and want familiar male camaraderie from a woman (or, they just don't care for the general package of female socialization and figure that a tomboy would eschew the lion's share of that). Tomboyish women probably do have a better grasp of navigating male socialization, but the men who seek the aforementioned also often expect that these kinds will basically be an incidentally female guy. At any rate, they seek tomboys in order to avoid exactly what you described.

What you're describing is also envisioned by young male nerds-- and sometimes the very same-- but it's a different archetype altogether.

There's also the reality that nerds have become the kind of people who are hungry to connect one thing they know to another thing they know regardless of how tenuous the connection is. Accordingly, many (most?) of the people who strictly fetishize the tomboy "aesthetic" will categorize anyone with certain aesthetic features (e.g. short hair, visible abs, tan skin) as a "tomboy", which does mean that they may identify as "tomboys" women who take on the expected "non-binary" spectrum of looks.

*with a 2% margin of error