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On day two of no drinking. Need to stop drinking so I can drop 25lbs so I can start another bulk. 3 hours into the day someone tried to get me to drink and hid a bottle of vodka in my house (!?!?!?!) so thats nice.

Why are people so retarded?

Looking forward to more energy hopefully, I think @Ughubughughughughughghlug said something about that a long time ago.
 
I'm on day 45 without drinking. I took Naltrexone (TSM) for 10 months (May 2024 to March 2025) and it fucking worked. It genuinely feels like a miracle, like I have been blessed by God. I went from drinking every single day for 5 or 6 years, to now never really thinking about alcohol and having about 1% of the desire to drink it that I did before.
I cannot recommend TSM and Naltrexone enough, it's unbelievably easy and works for something like 80% of people. Especially if you are predisposed genetically to alcoholism. I know I was and I truly thought I was doomed to drink everyday until I died.
I finally feel freedom from this horrible, life destroying, crushing burden.
 
I'm on day 45 without drinking. I took Naltrexone (TSM) for 10 months (May 2024 to March 2025) and it fucking worked. It genuinely feels like a miracle, like I have been blessed by God. I went from drinking every single day for 5 or 6 years, to now never really thinking about alcohol and having about 1% of the desire to drink it that I did before.
I cannot recommend TSM and Naltrexone enough, it's unbelievably easy and works for something like 80% of people. Especially if you are predisposed genetically to alcoholism. I know I was and I truly thought I was doomed to drink everyday until I died.
I finally feel freedom from this horrible, life destroying, crushing burden.
Good to hear it worked for you. I think I've been on both Naltrexone and Gabapentin. Not sure which medication it was but I recall one of them giving me horrible nausea. Which was terrible because the feelings of nausea reminded me of when I was drinking which is the opposite of what I want when trying to go sober.

And the crazy thing is that when you're deep in addiction the easiest way to get rid of alcohol related nausea is to drink more alcohol. It sucks when people think you're throwing up because you've been drinking, when the truth is you don't throw up when you drink, you throw up when you DON'T drink. Difficult thing for people to understand.
 
Alright, figured I’d make a post to document this because I’m done with this shit.
I’ve been vaping weed constantly for almost 3-4 years. Same cycle over and over again, year after year. I got a new pen yesterday thinking it might hit different but nah, nothing. The high doesn’t even hit anymore. The only thing I was chasing at this point was that pain in the lungs, that exploding feeling in my chest. That’s literally all it was.
I threw the pen in my drawer and I’m trying to quit cold turkey now. Honestly, it’s hard as hell. Every single thing I used to do, I did while high. Now nothing feels fun, nothing feels satisfying. My brain is in that empty mode where it’s like… what now?

Nicotine? Hate it. Makes me feel sick.
Alcohol? Don’t really care. Last time I got shitfaced drunk was when I was 18.
Xanax? I liked it, but I was never addicted-addicted. I did a ton for a while just because I had a bunch, went through withdrawals once where i was laying in bed for a week and did not bother to get them since, if you told me I could never have Xanax again I’d honestly be like, “fine.”

Vaping weed feels worse than heroin or pills in a way. The addiction doesn’t just sit on its own it wires itself to everything. Eating, drinking, entertainment, going outside and even working. Literally every aspect of daily life becomes tied to that hit. It sneaks into your routine so deeply that when you quit, it feels like you’re not just giving up a substance, you’re unraveling your whole way of life. It’s like every little thing you did was under its influence, and now you’re trying to figure out how to function without it. That makes this process feel a lot harder, but I’m starting to see why it’s worth it.

Day 1 starts now!
 
Vaping weed feels worse than heroin or pills in a way. The addiction doesn’t just sit on its own it wires itself to everything. Eating, drinking, entertainment, going outside and even working.
Weed is the drug I failed to quit the longest, possibly in part cos I didn't try heroin til a lot later. All addictions wire (I've had all the big ones to some extent except meth) themselves into every part of your life but the social acceptability of weed does make it more insidious.

I'm on day 3 of not drinking, not actually had any substance. My health is kicking my ass and I'm afraid.

I've had smack dreams both nights. That's always going to be my number 1 drug no matter how long its been since I've used it. Last night it was about poking about in my wrists. Something about the wrists that I don't understand makes them way worse than the other spots I used and I've felt nauseous all day from the memory.

Its been nearly 7 years since I last IV'd and 4 since I last did heroin. I can't even remember when I last had a drug dream so its weird to have such a vivid one. The stupid thing is, even though it was an awful dream, I fucking want it now so bad. Not gonna do it though, not worth it.
 
I'm not entirely sure if this is the right thread for it but I'm stopping oxycodone today and I'm feeling really nervous about it. I had multiple fractures and tendon tears in my foot that required reconstructive surgery with screws and plates, which necessitated a lot of pain management. I'm at the point where I'm needing to get off oxycodone but missing doses get me sweaty and puking. Could use a prayer or two.
 
I'm not entirely sure if this is the right thread for it but I'm stopping oxycodone today and I'm feeling really nervous about it. I had multiple fractures and tendon tears in my foot that required reconstructive surgery with screws and plates, which necessitated a lot of pain management. I'm at the point where I'm needing to get off oxycodone but missing doses get me sweaty and puking. Could use a prayer or two.
Prayin' for you, brother. I never had a recreational opiate problem. I'd take oxys and stuff for fun but never got addicted.
When I was younger, I snapped my leg in half in a wreck. While in the hospital, they had put me on Dilaudid IV for like 2 weeks straight. Then out of nowhere, they just shut it off.
I would not wish the withdrawals I got from that short 2 week stint on anyone, particularly lying in a hospital bed with a 90 pound cast.
 
I'm not entirely sure if this is the right thread for it but I'm stopping oxycodone today and I'm feeling really nervous about it. I had multiple fractures and tendon tears in my foot that required reconstructive surgery with screws and plates, which necessitated a lot of pain management. I'm at the point where I'm needing to get off oxycodone but missing doses get me sweaty and puking. Could use a prayer or two.
Are you taking them as prescribed by a doctor? If so they should help you reducing and maybe switch you to something longer acting to help. That will mean you don't get sick so soon between each dose.

I don't know if this is comforting but the cluck isn't the most difficult. Its the not picking up again. If you aren't an addict, as in you don't have some underlying mental condition for which you are self medicating, its quite easy. Two people close to me have been given hefty opiate scripts and got through the withdrawals fine in the last few years.

Even I could do that and I'm a worthless fucking junkie. What I couldn't do until I got help was not score again straight away.

Don't give it more power than it deserves, it will feed any addictive tendency you might have.
 
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Looking forward to more energy hopefully, I think @Ughubughughughughughghlug said something about that a long time ago.
I do not remember what you're referencing, but if you stop drinking you will be considerably less fatigued. Anecdotally, my brother was an alcoholic (far worse than me) and after three years of sobriety he describes feeling much better in every sense, which physical energy is part of.


Recently I had a pretty awful experience getting drunk on moonshine and I scared myself. I was playing with a gun, actually, not so much actually intending to shoot myself but familiarizing myself with it, get used to it. Things had seemed to turn around pretty well, and they did, really, but after a failed job search and some other setbacks and the prospective of working here another year, the idea of just not having to be alive anymore was appealing. Really just don't want to have to worry or make decisions anymore. I figured that if I ever did it it would be a spur-of-the-moment, impulsive thing, don't think about it, just do it. I guess a lot scarier and riskier but less mean would be driving myself over a cliff, look accidental. I accidentally put a bullet through my door and felt pretty bad about that. After that I looked up Alcoholics Anonymous. My impression was that my drinking was still pretty normal, but I hadn't actually tracked that, and what I knew of AA sounded nice (a sort of Deist auxiliary church in the same way as Freemasonry and Boy Scouts, description of a true alcoholic and its thoughts ring true in my ears).

I actually did go back and manage to, from my journal, reconstruct my pattern of drinking, and the truth of it was that I mostly fell within the FDA standards of a non-heavy-drinker. I think AA is probably not worth going to, or not often, but I like the idea of adopting its standard of behavior, as part of its worldview. I already think in terms of alcoholism being a personality trait, not a behavior, for example.
 
I could outdrink Genghis Khan's war horse but I am no longer a functional alcoholic. I need to change my life to continue having one. I think you fellow retards would be a better resource for therapy than anywhere else.
Sorry that you are struggling but glad you've recognised it's getting out of hand and actually want to stop.

You may need a medical detox to make sure you go through withdrawals safely. The hard part is then not using your drug of choice directly afterwards, effectively putting you back at square one. That's when you have to actually start facing and dealing with the underlying issues causing your addiction.
 
I started drinking around november of last year. I started out by mixing wine and coke zero and only drank maybe twice per month at most.
I then ran out of wine in my house and switched over to mixing liquor with coke. Then just liquor. Then I started drinking liquor straight from the bottle, maybe 2-3 times per week. All within the span of half a year
I'm glad I was able to recognize a pattern here. An insidious, downward spiral that I'm more than familiar with due to my internet history.
I don't know what I'm trying to say anymore... I'll 100% cut back on this and am sorry for any trouble drunk me caused on here.
 
You may need a medical detox to make sure you go through withdrawals safely. The hard part is then not using your drug of choice directly afterwards, effectively putting you back at square one. That's when you have to actually start facing and dealing with the underlying issues causing your addiction
Fortunately I have cut back enough that I can safely detox without medical support and have done so several times already but as you say it's the second part that's harder.
 
I hope this isn't the wrong thread for this, but do any of you have advice for getting off of stimulants (ADHD meds) entirely? I used to abuse my Ritalin in the past because I felt like it was the only way I could be happy, and when I didn't take it the withdrawals were just too much to handle. Some days the only thing I look forward to is taking that medicine.

To be clear, it's not all bad; I do feel "sharper" while I'm on them, I'm more sociable, and I just feel happier. But I know deep down shit could spiral out of control very easily, and I think it's best if I just quit them, even though they're legally prescribed to me.
I tried to wean off, didn't work. Lasted about 4 days. Felt absolutely fucking dreadful the whole time, like a lifeless husk that couldn't even enjoy playing video games or braindead tasks like watching TV.
Sometimes I feel like I live for these pills.
Sorry if this is TMI.
 
Any time I’ve weaned off of anything, I’ve used the time scale of withdrawal symptoms to stay committed. For alcohol, it helped to know that sleep would improve after day 8, and headaches were gone by day 30.

I was on an SSRI that the prescribing physician planned to wean me off of, but I ended up doing it myself. (I was broke and couldn’t afford another year of visits.) The bad part of this was that coming off too quickly (3 months as opposed to 12) increases emotional lability. If I could do it again, I’d definitely try to go more slowly and probably be more upfront regarding finances with the physician.

So, I’d dig up a lot of research on what happens coming off of your drug class so you know what to expect and when. If the first week is going to be miserable, you might be better off sacrificing a week of vacation—get a cheap motel on the beach and a week of food—and just feel like shit in a place you don’t have to clean or cook.

With the SSRI, the body adapts to the dose over years, so tapering off (should) go down 1/4-1/2 dose every other day for a minimum of three weeks (but I should’ve done six). I’m not sure if that’s how Ritalin works, but it might help even on a placebo level. You’re teaching your brain to not need something that has chemically manipulated it for years.
 
I tried to wean off, didn't work. Lasted about 4 days.

So, I’d dig up a lot of research on what happens coming off of your drug class so you know what to expect and when. If the first week is going to be miserable, you might be better off sacrificing a week of vacation—get a cheap motel on the beach and a week of food—and just feel like shit in a place you don’t have to clean or cook.
I'd second this. Finding out what to expect and how long it lasts can really help you prepare mentally. It may also be worth looking up tapering schedules and sticking to one. As its prescribed can you ask your doctor? Can you just say you'd like to know how you get on without them and leave the option open to go back on a different med if the ADHD becomes unmanageable?

Like I said to the other poster, its the staying off that's difficult. so psychological help is essential to help your long term chances.

Its also very easy to cross-addict when you come off a drug, just replacing it with another substance or maladaptive behaviour. So if you drink or do any other drugs, be very careful about that. Maybe avoid them for a while during this process.

Fortunately I have cut back enough that I can safely detox without medical support and have done so several times already but as you say it's the second part that's harder.

Yeah, I attempted about 50 rattles off heroin over m addiction and probably completed 20-30. The only one that worked was when I went to rehab and got a fuckton of therapy that I was actuall 100%y honest in for the first time in my life. Things had to get really bad before I was willing to truly put everything in and I'm glad I did.

It doesn't sound like you need to go to rehab necessarily but you do need some irl support. Have you considered AA or NA? I'd try both and if there's a SMART recovery group near you I'd try that as well. Not every method works well for every person which is why its worth trying eveyrthing available and finding what suits you best.

I did NA religiously for 2 years and have now kinda outgrown it. We alternated AA and NA in rehab, there's different vibes to them. Igriped with AA cos so many main speakers would say "never did drugs cos they're illegal" then regale all their "fun" tales of the messes they got in drunk driving.

Its been 8 years since I went to rehab, I'm a functional person, though not NA style "completely abstinent," but still do regular therapy and various recovery-rleated activities. Its a long term commitment.

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Posting from the bar because that's not my problem area, but I want y'all to know that chemical dependance is completely acceptable to bitch and check in about. This is the only thread I leave on watch because I care about my Kiwibros, I know your vices are merely vices and not a part of you.
 
I don't really drink by myself, I only do so on social occurrences, and even then, these are like once every two months.
Yesterday, after not drinking anything since, I think, new year's eve, I had ONE 0,40 beer at a friend's birthday. I slept like shit and I have been exhausted the whole day.
Is my body just not even fit to drink this little this unfrequently? Am I supposed to just abstain altogether? I am going to be the guy who gives every girl the ICK for not drinking anything. This is painful.
 
I don't really drink by myself, I only do so on social occurrences, and even then, these are like once every two months.
Yesterday, after not drinking anything since, I think, new year's eve, I had ONE 0,40 beer at a friend's birthday. I slept like shit and I have been exhausted the whole day.
Is my body just not even fit to drink this little this unfrequently? Am I supposed to just abstain altogether? I am going to be the guy who gives every girl the ICK for not drinking anything. This is painful.
Didn't even know this thread existed, since I use the other alcoholism thread, but...
If you were at a birthday party, I assume that you ate things you probably don't normally, maybe stayed out later, were around smokers/smoked more than normal. It might be the alcohol, or the carbonation (beer fucks me up, so I had to avoid it even before I quit), but it could easily be a combination of things.
Also, fuck what women (or anyone else) think. You shouldn't worry what (theoretical future) people think of you, especially if it's something positive and healthy. That's like worrying about being too fit. If your sobriety is your only personality trait, you'll be insufferable, but if you just say "I don't drink" and move on, most people won't care.
Good luck bro.
 
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